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Young people in the UK have it tough

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JiIttiIg · 01/06/2026 20:59

All the news stories are about young people not getting jobs and having to stay with their parents. It used to be they had to stay at home to save for a house, now it's no house and no jobs. Can't see things getting any better in the near future. Is the UK now a country that is failing it's young people. Is it going to be like countries from Eastern or Southern Europe where young people had to outmigrate in order to get a decent life? Can't see any politicians having the right answers.

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JacknDiane · 02/06/2026 23:01

Young folk cant move outside the UK to live.
Brexit.

CoffeeAndCats3 · 02/06/2026 22:55

I don't think even the trades are 'safe' jobs anymore.

As people get poorer and poorer the amount of renovation work going on will collapse. It will either not get done, or people will do a lot more DIY themselves.

It's also widely known as the best option for employment, so people will flood into that sector.

If I were young and healthy now I'd be finding somewhere rural/remote and cheap. Possibly outside the UK. Learn how to be more self sufficient and buy a plot of land large enough to grow my own food and keep some animals. Sort of partially off grid. I'd seek out a partner, and I wouldn't have children. I think there will be a trend towards this sort of lifestyle. We are being taken for a ride by all large organisations so it's time to give them the middle finger and lessen our reliance on them. The model is broken.

SquirrelGG · 02/06/2026 22:27

scalt · 02/06/2026 16:37

Nope. I shall never get over it. I shall keep shouting about it from the rooftops, while politicians (and you) try to pretend it was no big deal. It was a massive deal. A huge deal. It caused lasting damage. It normalised government by fear. One of its legacies is that I and many others will never trust any politician, or the news, or the media again. Prolonged lockdown and the massive campaign of fear caused lasting harm, especially to young people, and I will not be silenced by you or anybody else. I have as much right to speak about this as those who fight other causes on Mumsnet. This is a hill I will die on.

Get over it? Never.

That's your choice, but what do you think you are actually going to achieve? I suspect nothing at all, other than blight the rest of your life railing against something with is over and done with and can't be changed.

As I have already commented, the UK was very far from being the only country which had lockdown.

Clavinova · 02/06/2026 20:18

BIossomtoes · 02/06/2026 20:04

Who’s Julian Jessop? Just about every economist agrees with it and you come up with some nonentity with a Substack.

Who’s Julian Jessop?

Ask Meg Hillier - I noticed that Julian Jessop was giving evidence to the Treasury Committee several months ago - discussing the future of the OBR. Meg Hillier was chairing - I imagine she invited him.

Just about every economist agrees with it

That's funny - the research you linked to is a working paper which hasn't been peer reviewed - well apart from the review in my link.

Clavinova · 02/06/2026 20:09

BIossomtoes
Of course the New Statesman wasn’t impressed any more than I suppose The Telegraph would be

I thought the New Statesman was left-leaning - were you thinking of the Spectator?

Newname26 · 02/06/2026 20:07

ToffeeCrabApple · 02/06/2026 17:10

Some just want to
My husbands boss is nearly 70. Earns millions, is absolutely loaded. Does not need the money. Just refuses to retire. There are several like it where he works. I know many like this. DH also has a relative in academia well into their 70s and hogging a senior role, its got where the institution have had to raise capability issues to get them to retire because their memory has gone, they are not fit for the job.

I also worked with someone whos memory was gone. It wasn't nice for anyone

BIossomtoes · 02/06/2026 20:04

Clavinova · 02/06/2026 19:58

Who’s Julian Jessop? Just about every economist agrees with it and you come up with some nonentity with a Substack.

Cyclebabble · 02/06/2026 19:59

Yes I think it is extremely tough. The current generation in their 20s will be the first generation where living standards will be worse than the previous generation. Jobs are now scarce, home ownership is impossible without parental support and Government policy favours the middle aged and elderly. Notably via the triple lock. The challenge is to get people to vote in numbers and also for a party which will prioritise their interests. Sadly currently none of the main parties do this.

Clavinova · 02/06/2026 19:58

BIossomtoes · 02/06/2026 19:46

Of course the New Statesman wasn’t impressed any more than I suppose The Telegraph would be. This research wasn’t commissioned by Khan yet reached pretty much the same conclusions.

https://www.kcl.ac.uk/news/new-research-finds-uk-investment-up-to-18-per-cent-lower-as-a-result-of-brexit

Edited

Critique of that study published here;

https://julianhjessop.substack.com/p/what-the-nber-gets-wrong-on-the-economic

Clavinova · 02/06/2026 19:41

SusieSussex · 02/06/2026 10:39

It is true. 1.8 million jobs have been lost as a direct result of Brexit and the economy has shrunk. Brexiters were warned the country would go into decline as a result of Brexit and it has. Companies have invested in the EU including Ireland instead of the UK and jobs were lost. Labour can't work miracles unfortunately. More benefits are having to be paid because young people can't find jobs and older people are being made redundant and unable to find jobs.

the economy has shrunk

The economy/GDP hasn't shrunk - some people claim GDP would be higher if we had not left the EU.

1.8 million jobs have been lost as a direct result of Brexit

That study was commissioned by Sadiq Khan (at a cost of £55,000) - critiqued here:

As with the growth figures, the only way you get to that number of additional jobs is both heroic extrapolation, and ignoring the pandemic.

https://capx.co/sadiq-khans-brexit-figures-are-straight-out-of-fantasyland

The New Statesman were not impressed either;

Sadiq Khan’s Brexit baloney won’t fix the economy.
Even pro-Remain economists question his conclusions.

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/brexit/2024/01/sadiq-khan-brexit-baloney-wont-fix-economy

BIossomtoes · 02/06/2026 19:32

footbeds · 02/06/2026 18:46

We need to pause that now

No, we don’t need to pause it, we need to stop it. There’s no reason to have it any more. Increase the state pension in line with the increase in wages and make it fair for everyone. Unfortunately no party has the courage to do it.

Yuja · 02/06/2026 19:28

whitefluffydog · 02/06/2026 17:15

I have EU passport, where would you advise within the EU that will be better off for British youth with an EU passport as well?????

I’m not really saying it’s a definite ticket - it just gives several more options for future employment and allows them the opportunity to look elsewhere before they are tied down with responsibility here and can’t leave.

hahabahbag · 02/06/2026 19:22

Youth unemployment is bad in many countries, reasons are multi faceted but I can tell you that moving overseas won’t necessarily make a better outcome unless they have experience first. There are jobs but they need to be flexible, willing to move and quite frankly look at different sectors they never imagined. We are short or many trades, engineers, defence industry workers, care, agriculture, just off off the top of my head that I personally know about and every pub in my town is hiring

TyroneBarkleyManofValueNSOUL · 02/06/2026 18:58

trueredstart · 02/06/2026 18:22

Perhaps life might be a bit more meaningful if you tried reading it.

My life is meaningful as is I don't have much but what I do have money can't buy
I don't need dusty old books to guide me.

footbeds · 02/06/2026 18:46

Theolittle · 02/06/2026 18:14

Who pays the massive cost of the extra years of
triple locked state pension? Are you happy to pay much more tax for that?

We need to pause that now

trueredstart · 02/06/2026 18:22

TyroneBarkleyManofValueNSOUL · 02/06/2026 18:18

Ooo the Bible that oracle of good advice along with the other dusty old books as a guide to modern life and still causing mayhem and hatred around the world.

Perhaps life might be a bit more meaningful if you tried reading it.

FernandoSor · 02/06/2026 18:21

Whammyammy · 02/06/2026 17:54

Simple fix, reduce retirement age.
The increase to pension age means less movement below, including the bottom recruitment rung.

This would cost the country billions in increased state pension payouts.

TyroneBarkleyManofValueNSOUL · 02/06/2026 18:18

footbeds · 02/06/2026 17:30

Amazing advice 🙄

Ooo the Bible that oracle of good advice along with the other dusty old books as a guide to modern life and still causing mayhem and hatred around the world.

Theolittle · 02/06/2026 18:14

Whammyammy · 02/06/2026 17:54

Simple fix, reduce retirement age.
The increase to pension age means less movement below, including the bottom recruitment rung.

Who pays the massive cost of the extra years of
triple locked state pension? Are you happy to pay much more tax for that?

BIossomtoes · 02/06/2026 17:54

MustTryHarderAndHarder · 02/06/2026 17:49

Even if it is now, the departure of all the wealth creators will not have an immediate effect. It will take a few years.

Come back to me around 2032-ish then. For now it’s improving, albeit not as fast as anyone would like.

Whammyammy · 02/06/2026 17:54

Simple fix, reduce retirement age.
The increase to pension age means less movement below, including the bottom recruitment rung.

MustTryHarderAndHarder · 02/06/2026 17:49

BIossomtoes · 02/06/2026 15:47

Even if it is now, the departure of all the wealth creators will not have an immediate effect. It will take a few years.

footbeds · 02/06/2026 17:30

whitefluffydog · 02/06/2026 17:24

Tell young people to work on their morals, to work hard in education and to take any job, to be a presentable person, to be a decent human and get married. Two is better than one, says the Bible - marrying is always better than alone

Amazing advice 🙄

whitefluffydog · 02/06/2026 17:29

EasternEcho · 02/06/2026 07:07

In the UK, a microscopic fraction of the population, just the top 0.00017% (the richest 50 families or roughly 150 billionaires), owns more combined wealth than the entire bottom 50% of the population (about 34 million people) combined.

When widening the scope to the richest 1% of Britons, this group holds more total wealth than the bottom 70% to 80% of the country put together.

Instead of looking up, we keep looking down and blaming benefits, the "lazy" youth, who now have AI to contend with, or just blame whichever party is in power, even though the next party you vote for doesn't have any answers either. Companies will continue to put shareholder primacy over everything else and jobs will continue to disappear wherever possible.

The truth is none of that money at the top is trickling down, it's just getting sucked upwards. Without this issue being addressed, there's not going to be any change. Not the immigrants, not the lazy on benefits, that's just the "look over there" distraction while the rich pick your pockets.

yes and all over the world we have the same problem - people have no idea how still good here is