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To have asked what his daughter normally eats in a foodless house??

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AlwaysSomeKunceInTheWay · 01/06/2026 13:28

Bloke I’ve been seeing invited me over for dinner Saturday night. Idea was he’d cook dinner, I stay the night and then drive to the coast Sunday morning.

So I got there and he said he’d decided we should get a takeaway instead of him cooking. I said I don’t like to eat takeaway but I’m happy to eat anything … beans on toast would do. He said he didn’t have anything in. No bread, nothing. I’d noticed there was a pizza in the fridge so I suggested we cook that, he said no as it’s his daughters (she lives with him, 12) and she’d given strict instructions not to touch it. I said “well surely we could just replace it tomorrow before she comes home?” He said no as she’d made it herself … it was an asda pizza!! Ok she may have chosen the toppings but surely we could have just had the same one made again??

Anyway I agreed to the takeaway but made it clear that I wouldn’t be making a habit of it as I’m health conscious. I ended up paying for half of it which normally I would expect but he’d invited me over for dinner!!?

Anyway next morning we got up, he made a coffee and then said we’d only be able to have the one as he was running low on coffee but he said he had plenty of tea bags in. I don’t drink tea.

Anyway time is ticking on and he asked if I was ready to head out to the coast … I said “are we not having any breakfast?” He replied “I don’t really have anything in”. So I said “no cereal?” He said no. I said “what do you normally do for breakfast?” So he said “I don’t normally bother or I have a packet of crisps”.

Now the next thing I said is my AIBU …

I said “what does your daughter eat for breakfast?”. He looked pissed off and started stuttering etc before saying she just has crisps or whatever. I didn’t say anything else but I told him I’d be stopping off at shop on the way to buy MYSELF something to eat. He then starts banging on about McDonald’s breakfast etc etc which I refused.

Hes messaged me this morning saying he’s a bit upset that I implied his daughter isn’t well taken care of. I simply asked what she normally had for breakfast since there was fuck all in the cupboards!!

Was I wrong to ask??

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sweetgingercat · 01/06/2026 21:55

Crisps for breakfast? He sounds completely feckless. That would have been the end for me...

LittleMi55Nobody · 01/06/2026 21:51

AlwaysSomeKunceInTheWay · 01/06/2026 13:28

Bloke I’ve been seeing invited me over for dinner Saturday night. Idea was he’d cook dinner, I stay the night and then drive to the coast Sunday morning.

So I got there and he said he’d decided we should get a takeaway instead of him cooking. I said I don’t like to eat takeaway but I’m happy to eat anything … beans on toast would do. He said he didn’t have anything in. No bread, nothing. I’d noticed there was a pizza in the fridge so I suggested we cook that, he said no as it’s his daughters (she lives with him, 12) and she’d given strict instructions not to touch it. I said “well surely we could just replace it tomorrow before she comes home?” He said no as she’d made it herself … it was an asda pizza!! Ok she may have chosen the toppings but surely we could have just had the same one made again??

Anyway I agreed to the takeaway but made it clear that I wouldn’t be making a habit of it as I’m health conscious. I ended up paying for half of it which normally I would expect but he’d invited me over for dinner!!?

Anyway next morning we got up, he made a coffee and then said we’d only be able to have the one as he was running low on coffee but he said he had plenty of tea bags in. I don’t drink tea.

Anyway time is ticking on and he asked if I was ready to head out to the coast … I said “are we not having any breakfast?” He replied “I don’t really have anything in”. So I said “no cereal?” He said no. I said “what do you normally do for breakfast?” So he said “I don’t normally bother or I have a packet of crisps”.

Now the next thing I said is my AIBU …

I said “what does your daughter eat for breakfast?”. He looked pissed off and started stuttering etc before saying she just has crisps or whatever. I didn’t say anything else but I told him I’d be stopping off at shop on the way to buy MYSELF something to eat. He then starts banging on about McDonald’s breakfast etc etc which I refused.

Hes messaged me this morning saying he’s a bit upset that I implied his daughter isn’t well taken care of. I simply asked what she normally had for breakfast since there was fuck all in the cupboards!!

Was I wrong to ask??

wow..he sounds a real catch.....if he treat you like shit this early in the relationship....batten down the hatch, youre in for a bumpy ride long term

CatA27 · 01/06/2026 21:36

redskyAtNigh · 01/06/2026 13:40

It sounds like his daughter was away for the night/weekend/few days?
So there was no particular reason to have food in for her? Maybe they normally go shopping on a Sunday/Monday?

Mine never ate breakfast at that age so I don't think not having breakfast things is that odd.

This is what I was thinking. Mine also didn't eat breakfast in the 12 -16 years. Did you actually go through his cupboards/ freezer and there was nothing? I go shopping on a Monday and often we will have a takeaway on Saturday so the only thing in the fridge is whatever I have planned for Sunday tea 🤷‍♀️ I wouldnt be impressed that he invited me for dinner and then I had to pay for half a takeaway though!

ManintheCity · 01/06/2026 21:24

More red flags the a Communist Party rally!

sleeppleasesoon · 01/06/2026 21:16

Now that you are aware of neglect it’s your responsibility to pass on that information to safeguarding via the councils social services department. Safeguarding is everyone’s responsibility after all.

That poor 12 year old.

And you weren’t treated well at all either OP.

ILikeMondays · 01/06/2026 20:59

Did you actually stay the night? He’s completely irresponsible, a shit father, not a fully functioning human, has a dirty house, is fat and seems to live on takeaways. How unattractive.

Poor child. 😞

Janicchoplin · 01/06/2026 20:58

AlwaysSomeKunceInTheWay · 01/06/2026 13:28

Bloke I’ve been seeing invited me over for dinner Saturday night. Idea was he’d cook dinner, I stay the night and then drive to the coast Sunday morning.

So I got there and he said he’d decided we should get a takeaway instead of him cooking. I said I don’t like to eat takeaway but I’m happy to eat anything … beans on toast would do. He said he didn’t have anything in. No bread, nothing. I’d noticed there was a pizza in the fridge so I suggested we cook that, he said no as it’s his daughters (she lives with him, 12) and she’d given strict instructions not to touch it. I said “well surely we could just replace it tomorrow before she comes home?” He said no as she’d made it herself … it was an asda pizza!! Ok she may have chosen the toppings but surely we could have just had the same one made again??

Anyway I agreed to the takeaway but made it clear that I wouldn’t be making a habit of it as I’m health conscious. I ended up paying for half of it which normally I would expect but he’d invited me over for dinner!!?

Anyway next morning we got up, he made a coffee and then said we’d only be able to have the one as he was running low on coffee but he said he had plenty of tea bags in. I don’t drink tea.

Anyway time is ticking on and he asked if I was ready to head out to the coast … I said “are we not having any breakfast?” He replied “I don’t really have anything in”. So I said “no cereal?” He said no. I said “what do you normally do for breakfast?” So he said “I don’t normally bother or I have a packet of crisps”.

Now the next thing I said is my AIBU …

I said “what does your daughter eat for breakfast?”. He looked pissed off and started stuttering etc before saying she just has crisps or whatever. I didn’t say anything else but I told him I’d be stopping off at shop on the way to buy MYSELF something to eat. He then starts banging on about McDonald’s breakfast etc etc which I refused.

Hes messaged me this morning saying he’s a bit upset that I implied his daughter isn’t well taken care of. I simply asked what she normally had for breakfast since there was fuck all in the cupboards!!

Was I wrong to ask??

That would be the last date for me.
He's showing you who he is. Which is lazy thoughtless and won't stick to what he says.
You can come over ill cook.
Doesn't go buy food. I fact. Doesn't have food. The daughter knows this so well she has to say "don't eat my pizza" nope.

Also you are healthy food he's junk food.

Dontlletmedownbruce · 01/06/2026 20:55

JenniferBooth · 01/06/2026 20:19

If a woman was providing the same things as he is and no more would we be saying she has stepped up?

No we'd quite rightly be criticising her. I said he was incompetent but at least stepped up when the mother left her kid. I wasn't complimenting him. But sadly of the two parents he is the better one. Also the country is full of obese kids the majority of which have mothers who are equally incompetent. My point is this isn't a man thing.

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 01/06/2026 20:34

No food at all doesn’t sound good and I feel bad for the daughter but I do think your attitude to a takeaway is a bit extreme.

likelysuspect · 01/06/2026 20:22

JenniferBooth · 01/06/2026 20:19

If a woman was providing the same things as he is and no more would we be saying she has stepped up?

People would rightly say that its not great and she should do better but there would be some excuse given for poor MH or some such condition to say why she lives like that, just a mum doing her best sort of thing. Houses dont need to be perfect and comments like that.

hohummm1 · 01/06/2026 20:20

I mean, doesn't anyone else think that if this happened, he might have been winding the OP up? If you invite someone over for the night and all they do is whinge about the food on offer, you might be pretty tempted to fuck with them.

I mean, I'm all for eating healthy home-cooked food, but if I was going over to some guy's house to shag him, the last thing I'd be thinking about is, oh, no! I can't possible eat a takeaway. Plus, as @Gloriia pointed out, there's plenty of takeaway that's pretty healthy. Salads, sushi, grilled chicken. I just looked at deliveroo and I could get a takeaway from Jean-Georges at the Connaught if I was so inclined.

JenniferBooth · 01/06/2026 20:19

Dontlletmedownbruce · 01/06/2026 20:15

To be fair @JenniferBooththe woman in this scenario has fucked off and abandoned her child, this man has stepped up. While he might seem incompetent around the house this isn't the usual case of the woman who does everything while supporting a lazy man.

If a woman was providing the same things as he is and no more would we be saying she has stepped up?

Mamorau · 01/06/2026 20:17

I totally agree he should be able to cook! I just mean perhaps he’s struggling with life generally more than he can’t be arsed! In which case he needs help, support and encouragement! I would have at least found that out before writing the bloke off! Its nice to be nice sometimes! Something many mumsnetter don’t seem to understand!

Dontlletmedownbruce · 01/06/2026 20:15

To be fair @JenniferBooththe woman in this scenario has fucked off and abandoned her child, this man has stepped up. While he might seem incompetent around the house this isn't the usual case of the woman who does everything while supporting a lazy man.

Teanbiscuits33 · 01/06/2026 20:08

Mamorau · 01/06/2026 20:00

Ok so I get your point and your concerns, but perhaps he just doesn’t know where to start with cooking and so takes the simplest option and gets take aways! Perhaps if you supported him showed him some simple meals to cook plus the fact it would save him a fortune he might start!

He’s a grown man. If he wanted to learn to cook he could get himself a basic cook book or get recipes online. It’s not up to OP to take pity on him, he’s old enough to have a 12 year old child who he should be capable enough to support. Plus, nobody needs to be able to cook cereal, he didn’t even have that in the house for breakfast.

I mean, if he’d have said to OP ‘’I’m crap at cooking, how about you show me the ropes and we cook dinner together?’’ At least that would have shown willing but he didn’t do that.

JenniferBooth · 01/06/2026 20:06

Mamorau · 01/06/2026 20:00

Ok so I get your point and your concerns, but perhaps he just doesn’t know where to start with cooking and so takes the simplest option and gets take aways! Perhaps if you supported him showed him some simple meals to cook plus the fact it would save him a fortune he might start!

yes because women should always be mens support humans Ive seen women get told on here , hang on you have only just started dating when they mention something like exclusivity but somehow the OP should be responsible for giving this tool cooking lessons?????? When they have only just started dating. Talk about double standards!! No wonder the men are laughing FFS

Notsosweetcaroline · 01/06/2026 20:05

Mamorau · 01/06/2026 20:00

Ok so I get your point and your concerns, but perhaps he just doesn’t know where to start with cooking and so takes the simplest option and gets take aways! Perhaps if you supported him showed him some simple meals to cook plus the fact it would save him a fortune he might start!

What now. She’s not said he’s additional needs and he’s not a child.

CaptainMyCaptain · 01/06/2026 20:05

Mamorau · 01/06/2026 20:00

Ok so I get your point and your concerns, but perhaps he just doesn’t know where to start with cooking and so takes the simplest option and gets take aways! Perhaps if you supported him showed him some simple meals to cook plus the fact it would save him a fortune he might start!

She's not going to see him again. Why would she want to teach him to cook.

GotTheBluePeterBadge · 01/06/2026 20:05

Gloriia · 01/06/2026 17:38

Surely she didn't shag him. I wonder if the trip to the coast went ahead despite only crumbs and tea <that she doesn't drink> in the house before departure.

I'd tell him I didn't have the energy due to the lack of food!

delicioussoo · 01/06/2026 20:03

Mamorau · 01/06/2026 20:00

Ok so I get your point and your concerns, but perhaps he just doesn’t know where to start with cooking and so takes the simplest option and gets take aways! Perhaps if you supported him showed him some simple meals to cook plus the fact it would save him a fortune he might start!

Why the fuck should she try and teach this man baby how to look after himself. She’s right to end it.

CombatBarbie · 01/06/2026 20:03

NoCommentingFromNowOn · 01/06/2026 19:05

Erm……..I mean…………….we need to get you starting your own thread, we can all give you ideas!

So you have teenagers?? Mine can go through a pack of cereal amd various yogurts with chopped fruit/honey amd refuse what ive cooked.

Ive also found on my dark hole times i can easily munch on crunchy nut cornflakes if ive hit zero on lack of food. Milk has to be warmed though.

BuildbyNumbere · 01/06/2026 20:01

It doesn’t sound like you are compatible.

BambinaCucina · 01/06/2026 20:01

pragmatismuniversalsentimentalist · 01/06/2026 16:50

It isn't normal to have literally no food
In your cupboards, even if you are due a food shop.
Most people would have something in their cupboards eg a few tins such as baked beans, tinned tomatoes, bit if pasta, stuff like part-consumed boxes of cereal, end of a loaf of bread, one or two bits of fruit, maybe the end of a bag of carrots, potatoes etc. It's not at all normal to have totally bare cupboards before a food shop. That's poverty.

I used to think this. Growing up, my mum always had (and stil has) heaving cupboards. That was the norm for us, and I just expected that that was how everyone else lived. Until I met my first proper boyfriend.

I was shocked to learn that they had literally half a bag of broth mix left every second week. They would buy a 4 pack of toilet roll and, when they inevitably ran out (as they had 6 who lived in the house, plus any visitors), they would buy a roll of kitchen roll from the local convenience shop.

It's probably more common than you think.

Mamorau · 01/06/2026 20:00

Ok so I get your point and your concerns, but perhaps he just doesn’t know where to start with cooking and so takes the simplest option and gets take aways! Perhaps if you supported him showed him some simple meals to cook plus the fact it would save him a fortune he might start!

Macinae · 01/06/2026 19:47

OP glad you're not seeing him again, he sounds like a loser. Just to add I've seen some people say to tell him you've notified the school/social services. I'd really advise against this. You don't know him well, he knows where you live. You need to be mindful of your own safety as you don't know how he'd react. Appreciate he may put 2 and 2 together anyway even without you telling him, and I'm not trying to be dramatic but just something to bear in mind as violence against women and girls is a very real thing and you telling him what you've done could put you at risk.