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AIBU to want time alone when visiting my dad's ashes?

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SunshineOnIslington · 31/05/2026 23:09

Happy for people to search my previous thread but it’s not wholly relevant here as this is a more general question…

So I lost my dad when I was 13, he was 41, he literally dropped down dead from a heart condition caused by alcoholism that had no previous signs or symptoms. Growing up I was very very much a daddy’s girl, but some cracks were already showing by then in terms of my freedoms, what I wore, etc. and I suspect if he’d lived I’d have been a long way from home. He also horrendously abused my mum which I never knew the full extent of until after he died… but at the end of the day he was still my dad and we still had those good times. He’s still half of me.

We buried his ashes at a location in London. I don’t go often but when I do I usually go alone and spend some time there reflecting, talking to him etc (we live a long way away). I’ve just been there this weekend with a friend though who needed babysitting for various reasons. I asked him if I could go there alone to do my thing and he wouldn’t leave me. His excuse was he doesn’t know London and his battery was low - despite me saying just sit here in this pub and I won’t be long.

maybe I should have been more assertive but he has mental health issues. But surely I’m not being dramatic to ask for some time alone to pay my respects to my father?

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Hangingcrystal · 01/06/2026 11:40

OP, I understand you are autistic but you need to try to understand that arsehole men are NOT projects for women.

Women get used by arsehole men every day.

He is using you.
You owe him nothing.

Certainly not your peace.

You can make different choices.

Choose to never see or hear from him again.
Choose to block his number.
Choose to put your peace and happiness first.

He brings nothing to your life.

Put yourself first or this will be your life.

Used by arseholes.

CamilleBeauchamp · 01/06/2026 11:34

I mean... you were cleaning this guy's shit off the shower... when did this become your job?!

If you're autistic then it's all the more important that you protect your own space and stand up for your own needs. Your mental health is as important as his. Yes, he was totally unreasonable. But it's because he's unreasonable that you have to be firmer with your own boundaries - this is what people are trying to tell you - it's about help, not about blame.

I've done what you do - vented about a situation and felt better for letting off that little bit of steam. But I recognised that, ultimately, this stuff would keep happening unless I changed something. In your place, I'd sit quietly and think about this, maybe write it out on paper to concentrate your thoughts. Can you identify 1, 2 or 3 steps you can take to change things going forward?

WhyamIinahandcartandwherearewegoing · 01/06/2026 11:30

why did you invite him in the first place? Sounds like you would be much better off cutting contact altogether..

5128gap · 01/06/2026 11:28

I think if you have mental health issues of your own, a close relationship with someone who also does is particularly tricky. Because while there may be a bond of shared experience, there are also support needs that the other may not be equipped to meet.
You have not been looked after this weekend because the person you spent it with isn't capable of it, and instead needs you to support him. Which is exhausting and not helpful to your wellbeing.
If I were you, I'd reshape this friendship into something less intense that doesn't involve prolonged periods alone together. Be your own friend first and foremost.

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 01/06/2026 11:27

Please stop looking for ways to prove this was unreasonable and not your fault. You don’t need to.

He was VERY unreasonable and took advantage of your kind nature. The only way you had responsibility for what happened, was in going along with it.

The only way to keep yourself safe is to be selfish- put yourself first because, as you said, no one else does!

Hopefulsalmon · 01/06/2026 11:24

Just make sure you never see this 'friend' again, he sounds absolutely toxic and he's not your responsibility.

SlightlyAjar · 01/06/2026 11:16

SunshineOnIslington · 01/06/2026 11:10

I'm going to!

I'm fucking sick to the back teeth of being blamed for his behaviour. He lied to me about his capabilities (all he needed to do was take his meds and not drink too much) he's lied repeatedly to his support worker this weekend, his illness is psychosis and he is currently not psychotic and therefore has full capacity - it was his decision not to shower, not to clean his teeth, get really drunk and not take his meds, shit up the wall, act like a child all weekend and not let me have five fucking minutes alone to pay my respects to my dead dad because 'he doesn't know London' despite me not being from the area either and him having access to a perfectly working phone. But somehow all of that is MY FAULT?!

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And now you’re doing the classic people-pleaser thing of blaming other people for your own inability to say no. If you’d said no, it wouldn’t matter how reliable he was about his meds, whether he’d lied to his support worker etc. You say you work in MH. Surely it was obvious this was likely to be a literal shitshow, taking someone who can’t live independently, shortly after a really long inpatient stay in a psych ward, on a high stakes trip to a stressful urban environment in a heatwave? This was a preventable misery for you.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 01/06/2026 11:15

It seems like there was a breakdown in communication. I would have discussed my intentions with him earlier so we’re on the same page, he you’d have prepared himself better.
Yanbu. He could have sat in the pub waiting, he probably would have if he knew the plan.

omghereistrouble · 01/06/2026 11:15

very unfair. He could have sat in the pub to wait for you or even on a bench. When I go to my parents' grave, my partner carries the flowers, water etc for me, then goes for a wander round for a while. Then it gives me time to talk to my parents, especially if I am having problems with my daughter again, but also to thank them for the wonderful times they gave me and how much I miss them too. It must be the same for everyone
meant to say we have ashes of our pets and my fil so I often talk to them when I am alone in the house.

SlightlyAjar · 01/06/2026 11:12

SunshineOnIslington · 01/06/2026 10:45

@BMW58 no, I didn't get to go

@Lurkingandlearning he knows if he doesn't sort himself out he will be losing me as a friend for good

@SlightlyAjar I know that now but he's clearly lied to me about how he's been getting on (as well as other things this weekend) - I wanted to go on my own but felt railroaded into letting him come

But, respectfully, OP, no one had you at gunpoint. You chose to let him accompany you when you didn’t want to. That’s on you. You said on your other thread that you’re historically a people pleaser and that you think that if you cut ties with him you’ll be ‘the awful person who cut him off’ in other people’s eyes, or whatever. But so what? Did you actually let a man who recently spent three years as an inpatient in a psychiatric hospital accompany you on a trip that was doubly important to you (visiting your dad’s ashes and Arsenal) just because you couldn’t say no?

You’ve paid a horribly high price for people-pleasing. Learn from it.

SunshineOnIslington · 01/06/2026 11:10

ithappenstootherfamilies · 01/06/2026 11:05

Stop being a martyr, cut the friendship.

I'm going to!

I'm fucking sick to the back teeth of being blamed for his behaviour. He lied to me about his capabilities (all he needed to do was take his meds and not drink too much) he's lied repeatedly to his support worker this weekend, his illness is psychosis and he is currently not psychotic and therefore has full capacity - it was his decision not to shower, not to clean his teeth, get really drunk and not take his meds, shit up the wall, act like a child all weekend and not let me have five fucking minutes alone to pay my respects to my dead dad because 'he doesn't know London' despite me not being from the area either and him having access to a perfectly working phone. But somehow all of that is MY FAULT?!

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ithappenstootherfamilies · 01/06/2026 11:05

SunshineOnIslington · 01/06/2026 10:57

I didn't want support from him, I wanted him to leave me the fuck alone! He has his own flat in a block of flats with people checking on him once a day - other than that he's meant to be independent.

And yes, it is all his fault. I'm not being blamed for any of this.

Stop being a martyr, cut the friendship.

ithappenstootherfamilies · 01/06/2026 11:03

SunshineOnIslington · 01/06/2026 07:45

The fact that he’s a grown adult with autonomy over himself who is considered able to live independently?

and as for MH issues, I’m autistic and suffer massively from anxiety and depression. I’m now in complete burnout after this weekend. Who’s looking after me? Absolutely fucking nobody as always.

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Well what are you going to do about it?

You clearly resent your friend, so pull away from him.

andnowwhatdowedo · 01/06/2026 11:01

Hopefully you will make a clean break now from this man and prioritise your own need for space and time alone.

SunshineOnIslington · 01/06/2026 10:57

TomatoSandwiches · 01/06/2026 10:45

You have over estimated this mans capabilities and he doesn't live alone does he, he is in supported accomodation. He was never going to be someone supportive to you which is what I think you were hoping for.

I read your previous posts and I agree he has not behaved well but I also think your expectations of him are not realistic.

If you feel the friendship is unbalanced then end it but your crappy weekend is not all his fault.

I didn't want support from him, I wanted him to leave me the fuck alone! He has his own flat in a block of flats with people checking on him once a day - other than that he's meant to be independent.

And yes, it is all his fault. I'm not being blamed for any of this.

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TomatoSandwiches · 01/06/2026 10:45

You have over estimated this mans capabilities and he doesn't live alone does he, he is in supported accomodation. He was never going to be someone supportive to you which is what I think you were hoping for.

I read your previous posts and I agree he has not behaved well but I also think your expectations of him are not realistic.

If you feel the friendship is unbalanced then end it but your crappy weekend is not all his fault.

SunshineOnIslington · 01/06/2026 10:45

@BMW58 no, I didn't get to go

@Lurkingandlearning he knows if he doesn't sort himself out he will be losing me as a friend for good

@SlightlyAjar I know that now but he's clearly lied to me about how he's been getting on (as well as other things this weekend) - I wanted to go on my own but felt railroaded into letting him come

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SlightlyAjar · 01/06/2026 10:42

Im very sorry you lost your dad so young, and in such tragic circumstances, but, respectfully, OP, a weekend with a friend with psychosis and serious addiction issues was always going to be just a thankless adult babysitting job, and not about your own wishes. I agree with pps that this ‘friendship’ isn’t good for you.

Lurkingandlearning · 01/06/2026 10:39

Thank you for responding to my post. But are you going to end this friendship? I gather it has been making you unhappy for some time so I'm genuinely curious why you won't withdraw as you don't get on.

BMW58 · 01/06/2026 10:38

Cross posted - so you have managed to do the visit alone?

BMW58 · 01/06/2026 10:37

So what's to stop you telling him you're going to the loo and just walking away to visit the site of your Dad's ashes?

SunshineOnIslington · 01/06/2026 10:36

@Lurkingandlearning he had already upset me since we arrived so I was absolutely desperate for some space. I'm also autistic and thrive off alone time! Finally managed some yesterday morning when I walked to meet my mum off her train - I knew he wouldn't want to come as it involves physical exercise. He lost his own dad so I though he would get it but clearly not - although if it was a cemetery that might have got the message through (it's a sports ground, we buried his ashes under the pitch)

I'm going to report my concerns from the weekend to his accommodation as I feel they need to know what he's been like. But on the other hand I am astonished that a 46 year old man, who led a very normal life until he developed a cocaine addiction four years ago, thought that London was a small and walkable city!

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Lurkingandlearning · 01/06/2026 10:27

What are your thoughts on ending this friendship?

Like everyone else here, I think you should. I can't put it better than @CamilleBeauchamp so I won't try.

But I do suggest you ignore the posts saying you were unreasonable to have expected him to wait for you in a pub. The reason you wanted a little time to yourself was valid and exceptional. I would only tag along to a cemetery if the friend specifically asked me to. It would be very intrusive and I would've thought most people would realise that. But then I think it is always fine for people to have some space from each other for a short time on any trip. If you aren't used to spending all day and all night with a person, that short time can make the difference between finding their company enjoyable or bloody irritating.

CamilleBeauchamp · 01/06/2026 09:32

Who’s looking after me? Absolutely fucking nobody as always.

Oh darling, that really touched me when you said that... I recognise it, and it's rotten. Sending sympathy, if that helps... 💐 I hope you can spend some time quietly doing what replenishes you for a few days - when no one meets our needs, we have to - we are entitled to - meet them ourselves. 🤗

But I agree with PPs who say it is time to call a stop to your involvement with this guy. He just takes from you and doesn't give. I'd suggest you use this week as the impetus to say Enough! Tell him once and firmly that you have to take time for yourself now and will not be seeing or contacting him. Yes, it will feel uncomfortable, and he may (will) be awkward, but you have to push through the hard feelings now, and I promise you, you will feel tremendous peace and relief once you do.

You do NOT need to justify or explain or get drawn into an argument - but his behaviour, by any normal standard, has been beyond tolerable this week. Anyone would be justified in ending this 'friendship'.

And yes, refusing to give you space to be with your thoughts around your Dad was a dick move. (And again, I see that you wrote a long justification of your feelings around your Dad. Not necessary. The fact it was something you wanted - to be alone - should have been enough).

For the good of your own mental health, give yourself permission to put your own needs first.

Onward and upwards now! 😄

SunshineOnIslington · 01/06/2026 08:51

Needmorelego · 01/06/2026 08:38

I don't mean this is in a nasty way but you need to look after yourself.
Forget about this "friend".
In another thread (that I assume was you with a different username) you mentioned your mum wasn't that caring about your feelings for this weekend so don't even worry about what she thinks either. That's on her.
You are you. Focus on you. Look after yourself. No more agreeing to share hotel rooms or spend time with this jerk.
I hope you feel better soon 💐🙂

Thank you. I’m just sick of being blamed for his issues when I wanted to go without him. My mum actually came round to my way of thinking after she’d been there herself yesterday… she acknowledged I was right (although it wasn’t as bad as I expected) and she could see how he was behaving and even had a word with him herself. Not that it will make the blindest bit of difference

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