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AIBU to want time alone when visiting my dad's ashes?

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SunshineOnIslington · 31/05/2026 23:09

Happy for people to search my previous thread but it’s not wholly relevant here as this is a more general question…

So I lost my dad when I was 13, he was 41, he literally dropped down dead from a heart condition caused by alcoholism that had no previous signs or symptoms. Growing up I was very very much a daddy’s girl, but some cracks were already showing by then in terms of my freedoms, what I wore, etc. and I suspect if he’d lived I’d have been a long way from home. He also horrendously abused my mum which I never knew the full extent of until after he died… but at the end of the day he was still my dad and we still had those good times. He’s still half of me.

We buried his ashes at a location in London. I don’t go often but when I do I usually go alone and spend some time there reflecting, talking to him etc (we live a long way away). I’ve just been there this weekend with a friend though who needed babysitting for various reasons. I asked him if I could go there alone to do my thing and he wouldn’t leave me. His excuse was he doesn’t know London and his battery was low - despite me saying just sit here in this pub and I won’t be long.

maybe I should have been more assertive but he has mental health issues. But surely I’m not being dramatic to ask for some time alone to pay my respects to my father?

OP posts:
SunshineOnIslington · 01/06/2026 20:45

hoarahloux · 01/06/2026 20:31

That would be his choice. It is not your responsibility. You are not responsible for his decisions, although you clearly feel that you are.

You can't change what happened, and I hope you make it back to London to visit your dad's resting place soon. If you don't want to see or speak to your "friend" again, don't - and don't be manipulated into it either. He needs more support than you can give, and you know that now.

If anything had happened to him you know that I would get the blame

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hoarahloux · 01/06/2026 20:31

SunshineOnIslington · 01/06/2026 20:18

Because it turns out he can’t cross a road without walking straight out into traffic and he’s got to the age of 46 still thinking that London is a small walkable city. So I leave him and he either gets in a serious accident or gets absolutely shit faced, lost and/or back on the drugs!?

That would be his choice. It is not your responsibility. You are not responsible for his decisions, although you clearly feel that you are.

You can't change what happened, and I hope you make it back to London to visit your dad's resting place soon. If you don't want to see or speak to your "friend" again, don't - and don't be manipulated into it either. He needs more support than you can give, and you know that now.

SunshineOnIslington · 01/06/2026 20:18

hoarahloux · 01/06/2026 20:08

You're martyring yourself over this man for absolutely no reason.

How well do you actually know him? Why are you giving him your time? Why did his "no don't leave me" result in you not just walking out of the pub to have your time with your dad?

"Nobody is looking after me" so take steps to look after yourself. You have to stand up for yourself. If you don't want to spend time with someone, don't.

Because it turns out he can’t cross a road without walking straight out into traffic and he’s got to the age of 46 still thinking that London is a small walkable city. So I leave him and he either gets in a serious accident or gets absolutely shit faced, lost and/or back on the drugs!?

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hoarahloux · 01/06/2026 20:08

SunshineOnIslington · 01/06/2026 20:00

Yeah because I spend £300 to come to London ALL THE TIME.

Do people not READ THE FUCKING THREAD?! @hoarahloux he lied to me, so no I didn’t know his needs! I was led to believe all he needed was to be prompted to take his meds

You're martyring yourself over this man for absolutely no reason.

How well do you actually know him? Why are you giving him your time? Why did his "no don't leave me" result in you not just walking out of the pub to have your time with your dad?

"Nobody is looking after me" so take steps to look after yourself. You have to stand up for yourself. If you don't want to spend time with someone, don't.

SunshineOnIslington · 01/06/2026 20:00

hoarahloux · 01/06/2026 19:51

It wasn't the time. You knew your friend's needs prior to visiting.

Yeah because I spend £300 to come to London ALL THE TIME.

Do people not READ THE FUCKING THREAD?! @hoarahloux he lied to me, so no I didn’t know his needs! I was led to believe all he needed was to be prompted to take his meds

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hoarahloux · 01/06/2026 19:51

It wasn't the time. You knew your friend's needs prior to visiting.

Needmorelego · 01/06/2026 19:43

SunshineOnIslington · 01/06/2026 19:38

Perhaps because I want to alert them to the fact he’s completely neglecting himself? And that he didn’t take his medication? And that he lied to his support staff and said he did take it and that he was ok all weekend?

That's not your responsibility though.

SunshineOnIslington · 01/06/2026 19:38

ithappenstootherfamilies · 01/06/2026 19:02

Why are you calling his social worker and accommodation?? Why?

Stop being involved if you don't want to!

Perhaps because I want to alert them to the fact he’s completely neglecting himself? And that he didn’t take his medication? And that he lied to his support staff and said he did take it and that he was ok all weekend?

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ithappenstootherfamilies · 01/06/2026 19:02

SunshineOnIslington · 01/06/2026 13:46

@Galaxylights yes that was me, that happened Friday and we came home last night. Luckily my mum was with us yesterday. No plans to see him again and I am calling his accommodation and social worker today

Why are you calling his social worker and accommodation?? Why?

Stop being involved if you don't want to!

SleepingStandingUp · 01/06/2026 18:18

I think you're doing the right thing cutting the friendship. Neither of yo u are what the other needs and that's ok. You matter just as much as him, and you should matter more to yourself than him.

SleepingStandingUp · 01/06/2026 18:12

Sorry op I missed your last posr

SleepingStandingUp · 01/06/2026 18:05

Yanbu but it doesn't sound like your mate was bring horrible or intrusive, just not well x

SunshineOnIslington · 01/06/2026 17:26

@BauhausOfEliott he's not psychotic or very unwell. That's the whole point. He just refuses to do anything for himself, it's learned helplessness. A couple of examples - it was v hot in London so I said let's go to the shop I need water. Bought my water, told him to get some too as he hadn't drank ANY water the whole time - he picked up a coke and a red bull. I got up and got ready while he was asleep, woke him up and said he had 45 minutes to get showered and pack up before we had to check out - one hour later he appears, without showering and in yesterday's clothes. He point blank refuses to set a reminder on his phone to take his meds. NONE of those are because he lacks the capacity! Yes he might need prompting but I did bloody prompt him!!!!

Also, if you'd seen my updates he did a very good job of convincing me that he would be ok - aka he lied - and that his accommodation were supportive of him making the trip - aka he lied again.

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BauhausOfEliott · 01/06/2026 17:06

SunshineOnIslington · 01/06/2026 11:10

I'm going to!

I'm fucking sick to the back teeth of being blamed for his behaviour. He lied to me about his capabilities (all he needed to do was take his meds and not drink too much) he's lied repeatedly to his support worker this weekend, his illness is psychosis and he is currently not psychotic and therefore has full capacity - it was his decision not to shower, not to clean his teeth, get really drunk and not take his meds, shit up the wall, act like a child all weekend and not let me have five fucking minutes alone to pay my respects to my dead dad because 'he doesn't know London' despite me not being from the area either and him having access to a perfectly working phone. But somehow all of that is MY FAULT?!

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His behaviour isn't your fault. Nobody's saying that.

What you do have to take some responsibility for is the fact that you assumed a severely unwell and psychotic man would be an unproblematic travel companion. Expecting normal behaviour from someone as unwell as that is a bit like going away for a weekend with a man with a broken leg and then being shocked that he couldn't walk very far.

BauhausOfEliott · 01/06/2026 16:56

Is this the same friend who spent three years in a mental hospital with psychiatric issues caused by a class A drug addiction, and who trashed the room you were sharing in a Travelodge and wiped shit on the bathroom walls?

I'm honestly not sure why you'd expect someone with a long history of severe drug addiction and three full years on a psychiatric ward to behave like he's a totally normal person. He isn't a 'normal' person. He may not be in hospital any more but he's still clearly unwell and he is, obviously, going to behave like an unwell person who struggles to function in the same way someone else would.

Of course it's not unreasonable to want time alone with your dad's ashes, but it's astonishingly naive of you to assume that someone whose mental illness was severe enough to warrant him being institutionalised for three years would be an easy companion on a weekend trip to London. Your friend can't cope with any of this stuff and I don't think that's particularly surprising. You need to chalk this up to experience and don't take him on trips with you again.

SunshineOnIslington · 01/06/2026 13:46

@Galaxylights yes that was me, that happened Friday and we came home last night. Luckily my mum was with us yesterday. No plans to see him again and I am calling his accommodation and social worker today

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Galaxylights · 01/06/2026 13:40

SunshineOnIslington · 01/06/2026 11:10

I'm going to!

I'm fucking sick to the back teeth of being blamed for his behaviour. He lied to me about his capabilities (all he needed to do was take his meds and not drink too much) he's lied repeatedly to his support worker this weekend, his illness is psychosis and he is currently not psychotic and therefore has full capacity - it was his decision not to shower, not to clean his teeth, get really drunk and not take his meds, shit up the wall, act like a child all weekend and not let me have five fucking minutes alone to pay my respects to my dead dad because 'he doesn't know London' despite me not being from the area either and him having access to a perfectly working phone. But somehow all of that is MY FAULT?!

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Oh god this is you with the man who shat up the wall.

Just stop being his friend! Don't make it more difficult for yourself. Don't get why you are still hanging around with him after that.

TomatoSandwiches · 01/06/2026 13:35

I don't think his behaviour is your fault op but I don't think you should have said yes to him coming with you, from what you've said about.his living situation it would be clear to me that I would be his support on this trip.

Lurkingandlearning · 01/06/2026 13:10

I haven't read every word of every post but I don't think most posters are saying you are at fault. I certainly am not saying that.

Having him "Leave you the fuck alone" would definitely be the best outcome for you but it seems that is only going to happen if you make it happen. Doing that might feel uncomfortable at first but in time, and probably a very short time, you will feel a whole lot better for having stopped your association with him.

I say association because it isn't really a genuine reciprocal friendship, is it? You seem to feel some obligation towards him and you really shouldn't. Partly because he doesn't return your feelings and feels no need to be supportive or considerate towards you. But also, I think, he needs support you don't have the capacity to provide. Not because you are autistic, not because you are a poor friend but because you aren't trained to provide the professional support he needs. It is a shame that he isn't getting sufficient professional support but you can't fill that gap and trying to is pointless but more importantly detrimental to your own wellbeing.

Take a deep breath, bite the bullet and do what you need to do to get out of this situation. It might not be easy at first but it will be healthy. A bit like bracing yourself to go to the dentist to get a rotten tooth pulled. I know how cliched all of that is but I believe the thinking behind it is sound.

SlightlyAjar · 01/06/2026 13:10

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 01/06/2026 13:07

It’s not her fault, but she is the only whose behaviour she can change.
That’s different. I think it’s important to say that in a way OP can hears, rather than feeling blamed for it.

His behaviour is his fault. She can protect herself in future.

Yes, that’s fair. His behaviour is obviously his own responsibility to manage. But the fact that it wrecked the OP’s weekend is because of her actions.

Dealing with her own people-pleasing will mean it, or nothing like it, ever happens again.

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 01/06/2026 13:07

SlightlyAjar · 01/06/2026 12:52

But it is literally true. The OP says explicitly on her other thread that she didn’t want him to come and would have much preferred to have her weekend alone in London. This entire disastrous weekend happened because she is, as she says herself ‘a people-pleaser who hates confrontation’, and who didn’t say no to a man not long out of a lengthy stay in a psychiatric unit who wanted to piggyback on her trip. We can’t ever control other people’s actions, whether or not they’re significantly mentally unwell and not taking their meds, or perfectly well and just behaving in ways we don’t like and that impact negatively on us. We can, however, always control our own. The OP is lashing out at her ‘friend’ and his support worker because she can’t admit that it’s her own people-pleasing that has brought this on her.

It’s not her fault, but she is the only whose behaviour she can change.
That’s different. I think it’s important to say that in a way OP can hears, rather than feeling blamed for it.

His behaviour is his fault. She can protect herself in future.

SlightlyAjar · 01/06/2026 12:52

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 01/06/2026 12:03

A couple of PPs have effectively said it’s her fault because she didn’t say no.

But it is literally true. The OP says explicitly on her other thread that she didn’t want him to come and would have much preferred to have her weekend alone in London. This entire disastrous weekend happened because she is, as she says herself ‘a people-pleaser who hates confrontation’, and who didn’t say no to a man not long out of a lengthy stay in a psychiatric unit who wanted to piggyback on her trip. We can’t ever control other people’s actions, whether or not they’re significantly mentally unwell and not taking their meds, or perfectly well and just behaving in ways we don’t like and that impact negatively on us. We can, however, always control our own. The OP is lashing out at her ‘friend’ and his support worker because she can’t admit that it’s her own people-pleasing that has brought this on her.

BunnyLake · 01/06/2026 12:21

SunshineOnIslington · 01/06/2026 11:10

I'm going to!

I'm fucking sick to the back teeth of being blamed for his behaviour. He lied to me about his capabilities (all he needed to do was take his meds and not drink too much) he's lied repeatedly to his support worker this weekend, his illness is psychosis and he is currently not psychotic and therefore has full capacity - it was his decision not to shower, not to clean his teeth, get really drunk and not take his meds, shit up the wall, act like a child all weekend and not let me have five fucking minutes alone to pay my respects to my dead dad because 'he doesn't know London' despite me not being from the area either and him having access to a perfectly working phone. But somehow all of that is MY FAULT?!

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None of that is your fault but it is your responsibility to end this friendship, or carry on suffering the consequences of his company.

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 01/06/2026 12:03

ithappenstootherfamilies · 01/06/2026 11:50

Who is blaming you and why are you not just pushing back and saying no not my issue??

A couple of PPs have effectively said it’s her fault because she didn’t say no.

ithappenstootherfamilies · 01/06/2026 11:50

SunshineOnIslington · 01/06/2026 11:10

I'm going to!

I'm fucking sick to the back teeth of being blamed for his behaviour. He lied to me about his capabilities (all he needed to do was take his meds and not drink too much) he's lied repeatedly to his support worker this weekend, his illness is psychosis and he is currently not psychotic and therefore has full capacity - it was his decision not to shower, not to clean his teeth, get really drunk and not take his meds, shit up the wall, act like a child all weekend and not let me have five fucking minutes alone to pay my respects to my dead dad because 'he doesn't know London' despite me not being from the area either and him having access to a perfectly working phone. But somehow all of that is MY FAULT?!

Edited

Who is blaming you and why are you not just pushing back and saying no not my issue??