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People from other countries - they’re just better than us, aren’t they?

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PebbleDashedDoor · 31/05/2026 14:12

I’m on holiday in the Balkans and like everytime I go overseas, it’s difficult not to conclude people from other countries are just better than us.

Immaculately kept, litter free, great service in bars and restaurants by experienced staff, polite well behaved kids eating out in restaurants, not a screen in sight. Everyone generally better looking, better dressed.

Or do I have rose tinted holiday goggles on?

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MaddestGranny · 01/06/2026 21:09

Ace56 · 31/05/2026 14:17

In Europe yes, I agree. I have spent a significant amount of time in other European countries and the lifestyle and people are generally better. Of course every country has its problems but I think the main issue with the UK is the entitlement which other European countries don’t seem to have so much of. Also the people have a better work-life balance, eat better food so are healthier, aren’t so capitalistic so aren’t always wanting the latest ‘new thing’/aren’t as concerned about money and life is simpler. This is a generalisation of course.

I totally agree with this. I've just come back from 5days in Prague - where ALL public transport for over 65s is free. People were so friendly, nice and polite. Most of them (so shaming) spoke excellent English. Streets spotless. Likewise public transport, which is vv frequent. Myriad cafes and restaurants to lounge, linger, eat in. Good prices, cheaper than UK. Better quality food.
In '21-22 I lived a year in Kõln. Better quality of life all round. Working class level of society having a much better standard than similar over here. Quality of food in supermarkets much more varied. Fresh fruit/veg better/fresher. Brexit has much to answer for.

AlwaysHungry123 · 01/06/2026 20:57

I’m just in the process of applying for British passport, not because I feel British but because I started feeling insecure about my future here.

I feel that the only British people that complain about the uk are the ones who never lived in another country. And I agree there’s a sense of entitlement blaming someone else for their misfortune. I came here with 1 suitcase, now own my house, have professional qualifications and live a happy life. No help from family or government, always blamed myself for my mistakes not others. Didn’t expect anything from others. And it was all possible because I see England as a land of opportunities if you can be bothered.

There are better worker’s rights than anywhere else, better culture at work, more opportunities if you want to do a career. I always felt supported by my employers. People are nicer to each others, customer service is better in shops and you can pretty much sort most admin stuff online or over the phone. Amazing activities for children from very young age, I could go on!

one of big problems I see is the govs appalling attitude to schools and education. 30 children in the class? Send children not well supported (still better than in my country). Lack of resources. How can one of most powerful countries in the world have such poor standards in schools? Surely they must see the children as the future of the country? The more educated people the country has the fewer professionals they have to import. It really feels that the education is undervalued here.

oh the maternity leave pay is quite bad too in comparison.

Opalfruitfan66 · 01/06/2026 20:55

Have travelled to many countries over the years and have had family living all over the world for work and also expats etc. Every country has it's problems- there is no Eden. It's great being on holiday but honestly, the UK is a pretty good place to live.

Cherrytree86 · 01/06/2026 20:55

You don’t get the pavements covered in dog shit in most other countries

LoftyPlumLion · 01/06/2026 20:51

I love travel and love a city break but have not been anywhere as amazing as London. Walk from baker Street through Marylebone high Street, in to regent Street

Them Soho, covent garden, over the amazing view of Waterloo bridge and the south Bank past the Tate to London bridge. Incredible.

I love Paris and new York, neither are in the same league as London.

I could pick 3 or 4 other amazing walks too. Chelsea to Kensington, Hyde park, Piccadilly, Soho, Mayfair then up to Camden.

I really enjoyed Warsaw but it's much smaller not nearly as nice..

Bluedenimdoglover · 01/06/2026 20:48

If you look closely in areas outside the "holiday bubble" you'll find they have similar problems with housing/wages/vandalism etc. Holidays are not real life. You go on holiday to escape the mundane and problems at home.

SemiRetiredLoveGoddeess · 01/06/2026 20:35

I think you need to have lived and worked another country for years before you can make an informed comment.

Not just go on holiday.

I agree the UK seems to be going a bit downhill at the moment. But you know a lot about the UK because you have lived and worked here.

As for being Entitled. Yes, there are some really entitled people here.
I lived in Jersey years ago and was surprised by the manners and behaviour of some of the French visitors on day trips.

SocialistMummy · 01/06/2026 19:52

inamarina · 01/06/2026 16:28

What did she become?

Let's just say she posts a lot on Twitter or X or whatever it's called these days

Mithral · 01/06/2026 19:51

LightningTree · 01/06/2026 19:17

When we were in Denmark we noticed that people just left their bikes unlocked because theft is so rare. In England we not only have to chain our bikes up, we also have to chain the wheels to the frame - so sad.

Nope, massive amounts of bike theft in Denmark. Not even slightly rare I'm afraid. Same in Amsterdam - more bikes mean more bike thefts.

fantam · 01/06/2026 19:38

LightningTree · 01/06/2026 19:17

When we were in Denmark we noticed that people just left their bikes unlocked because theft is so rare. In England we not only have to chain our bikes up, we also have to chain the wheels to the frame - so sad.

Given there are so many flippin bike lanes everywhere now, the Government should just give everyone a free bike and be done with it. That would cut down on theft and encourage bike use. They are expensive things to buy now. A brave bold initiative, what are the chances!

Thechaseison71 · 01/06/2026 19:22

Lomonald · 31/05/2026 15:02

There is plenty of modern apprenticeships in the jobs you are talking about also college courses have job placements and retail has training, it sounds like you don't really know that much about vocational jobs.

Retail training often means shadowing another member of staff for a day or 2 if they aren't off sick. And being left to flounder as constantly short staffed

I was in currys with my partner once, he asked a question about a tv and promptly told to look on website.Didnt buy it there

LightningTree · 01/06/2026 19:17

When we were in Denmark we noticed that people just left their bikes unlocked because theft is so rare. In England we not only have to chain our bikes up, we also have to chain the wheels to the frame - so sad.

Yourcatisnotsorry · 01/06/2026 19:04

Try getting a train in Italy or doing minor admin tasks in France

oncemoreuntothebeachdearfriends · 01/06/2026 18:25

PebbleDashedDoor · 31/05/2026 14:12

I’m on holiday in the Balkans and like everytime I go overseas, it’s difficult not to conclude people from other countries are just better than us.

Immaculately kept, litter free, great service in bars and restaurants by experienced staff, polite well behaved kids eating out in restaurants, not a screen in sight. Everyone generally better looking, better dressed.

Or do I have rose tinted holiday goggles on?

You could be describing my experience of China.
I could not describe them as better, just different.

Moii · 01/06/2026 18:01

Remember the holiday hot spots are kept clean and clear for tourists, go to the outskirts of the cities and it'll be very different. What I saw in the outskirts of Paris was worse than anything I've seen in the uk

fantam · 01/06/2026 17:47

MissFancyDay · 01/06/2026 16:32

It seems a bit rude to criticise the behaviour of a group of people like this.

British, or it seems to be English, people are a bit reserved and "buttoned up" it doesn't mean that we do not feel as deeply as others. We just don't (typically) do much weeping and wailing in public, and a lot of us keep our feelings to ourselves.

In fact countries where this is the norm don't seem particularly genuine to me.

No one is asking anyone to weep and wail in public. I agree that that kind of public grief can be over dramatic. I'm referring to friends of relatives of the deceased person not going to the funeral, or not being able to express condolences easily, why? What harm does it do and what has non attendance to do with being reserved? It smacks of a cop out to me actually. People don't know what to say so bail out of any interraction involving death and funerals! What is so hard about saying "I am so sorry, I hope you are alright, if there's anything you need from me, let me know" Might be a platitude but it's flipping something at a time of loss.

Some people get away with anything because they cite being reserved and stiff upper lip but in reality they are just terrified of expressing emotion, that's my take on it. And it comes across as cold.

MeAndStuart1981 · 01/06/2026 16:43

It's nice to get out there and see different cultures. I've travelled over a large part of Europe these past few years and most people are polite and provide good service, but good manners when queuing or driving can be lacking compared to Brits.

I have to agree with the pp that Rome is fantastic, but you'd need to be as blind as a bat to not see the graffiti and litter. Driving in Italy you notice they lack courtesy and it's even worse in France. I'm driving to Northern Spain soon and dread part of the French route.

I've equally had some great trips to Edinburgh, Belfast and Dublin and met lovely people and had great service. Preferred Northern Ireland and already planning to go back this September!

Coffeeandbooks88 · 01/06/2026 16:35

MissFancyDay · 01/06/2026 16:32

It seems a bit rude to criticise the behaviour of a group of people like this.

British, or it seems to be English, people are a bit reserved and "buttoned up" it doesn't mean that we do not feel as deeply as others. We just don't (typically) do much weeping and wailing in public, and a lot of us keep our feelings to ourselves.

In fact countries where this is the norm don't seem particularly genuine to me.

Compared to some Polish people for example I don't think we are that cold. However this is just an anti English thread who aren't as wonderful as Welsh, Irish or Scottish.

MissFancyDay · 01/06/2026 16:32

fantam · 01/06/2026 15:32

Even if you were best friends of the deceased's son or daughter, but had never met the parent? THAT would be very weird indeed of the family. Cold is right.

That kind of zipped up attitude seems to spill over into other facets of British life too. I'm not immune but I would definitely go to my best friend's parent funeral and I wouldn't second guess the reaction of family to my presence. My friend would be happy to see me, and it would be for HER. That's what friends are for I would have thought. But hey I'm a bit warmer than most I suppose!

It seems a bit rude to criticise the behaviour of a group of people like this.

British, or it seems to be English, people are a bit reserved and "buttoned up" it doesn't mean that we do not feel as deeply as others. We just don't (typically) do much weeping and wailing in public, and a lot of us keep our feelings to ourselves.

In fact countries where this is the norm don't seem particularly genuine to me.

inamarina · 01/06/2026 16:29

Coffeeandbooks88 · 31/05/2026 16:40

Campaigning the rights of women sounds good to me.

I agree, I think she’s pretty fabulous.

inamarina · 01/06/2026 16:28

SocialistMummy · 31/05/2026 16:36

Just a shame what the person who invented Harry Potter became

What did she become?

x2boys · 01/06/2026 16:21

SlightlyAjar · 01/06/2026 15:40

Agreed. I was totally taken aback when living in England and a colleague returned after his mother’s funeral and no one condoled with him or mentioned it, and no flowers had been sent. Someone I knew only from occasionally meeting her out walking her dogs (a neighbour had mentioned that her father had died some months earlier, since I’d last seen her) thanked me for condoling and said she’d been shocked by people crossing the road to avoid her.

I’m quite certain it’s ’not knowing what to say’ rather than coldness or indifference, but it can come across that way.

Well that wasent my experience when my mum died last year
I got lots of kind measages and some flowers off friends

inamarina · 01/06/2026 16:13

Crushed23 · 31/05/2026 15:12

The only thing I can agree with is customer service in shops/restaurants/bars. I can’t get over how bad this is in the UK. I’ve heard this being blamed on ‘capitalism’ but I live in the US now, a far more capitalist society, and service is generally much, much better. And it’s not just because of tipping culture, because service is better in places where you don’t tip - off-licence, supermarket, takeaway coffee shops etc.

Perhaps we think being indiscriminately nice and polite to people is beneath us, even if it’s part of our job?

I’m curious as to how people manage to blame bad customer service on capitalism?
I’ve spent a part of my life in a socialist country, where the attitudes of the workers in state-run shops were quite grotty. No competition, no need to impress customers.

Coffeeandbooks88 · 01/06/2026 15:55

SlightlyAjar · 01/06/2026 15:40

Agreed. I was totally taken aback when living in England and a colleague returned after his mother’s funeral and no one condoled with him or mentioned it, and no flowers had been sent. Someone I knew only from occasionally meeting her out walking her dogs (a neighbour had mentioned that her father had died some months earlier, since I’d last seen her) thanked me for condoling and said she’d been shocked by people crossing the road to avoid her.

I’m quite certain it’s ’not knowing what to say’ rather than coldness or indifference, but it can come across that way.

My colleague lost her dad a few weeks ago. Most that knew about it passed on their condolences. I suppose some don't know what to say?

Coffeeandbooks88 · 01/06/2026 15:54

SlightlyAjar · 01/06/2026 15:35

Certainly not in Ireland. You would attend funerals for colleagues’ or friends’ parents or siblings or spouses that you’d never met, without thinking twice. You’re there for the person you know who’s bereaved.

Well we aren't in Ireland. Although from what I have read on here not all Irish are warm and friendly either in certain areas.

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