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People from other countries - they’re just better than us, aren’t they?

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PebbleDashedDoor · 31/05/2026 14:12

I’m on holiday in the Balkans and like everytime I go overseas, it’s difficult not to conclude people from other countries are just better than us.

Immaculately kept, litter free, great service in bars and restaurants by experienced staff, polite well behaved kids eating out in restaurants, not a screen in sight. Everyone generally better looking, better dressed.

Or do I have rose tinted holiday goggles on?

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x2boys · 02/06/2026 19:34

Allonthesametrain · 02/06/2026 18:17

Having travelled a lot and studied/worked mostly within Europe, I absolutely agree! The kids generally have their own style and not the same sheep fashion. Varied hairstyles, clothes, lots of scarves, also just seem more mature and dare I say a 'chav' attire and attitude has been extremely rare. When I do school trips the difference is remarkable; our girls in crop tops, all have straight long hair, false eyelashes, gym pants; other countries more natural, bit punky, no grey sweat pants, individual and far less Kardashian.

Only they dont do they ?
There has always been alternative fashion in the uk
At a recent family get together my cousins son born and brought up in france who lives and works in paris
Was sporting exactky the same hair do as his yorkshire cousins .

Goldenbear · 02/06/2026 19:14

SlightlyAjar · 02/06/2026 08:46

It’s hilarious that, on a thread that was started to proclaim how all other nationalities are ‘better’ than British people, a non-Brit agreeing with the premise is being attacked.

Hardly that surprising, MN is a British forum, as I believe the OP would know as this is a complete wind up of a thread! MN is all the worse for this kind of divisive crap now.

Mithral · 02/06/2026 18:46

And as for being racist - they are even regionalist ! Had the car spat on once because of the number plate… and one’s surname is dissected to see if it is from an unapproved location. So you can imagine what the general opinion of recent arrivals

I have an Italian sister in law (from the north of Italy) and when she dyed her hair black as a teen her mother cried because she looked like a Sicilian!

MaturingCheeseball · 02/06/2026 18:34

DoughnutDreamer · 02/06/2026 18:21

And yet, the worst and most consistent racism I have ever witnessed is from Italians, the area of Italy my dh comes from is filthy, litter along every road, broken glass on the beaches, and graffiti everywhere. Eating a nice plate of food and drinking lovely wine in the Italian sunshine doesn’t mean Italy has its shit together.

Absolutely. Half my family are from Italy. EVERY SINGLE TIME I read about Italy on MN it is total crap. Italians do not swig wine all day, living la dolce vita, pinching the cheeks of bambini (particularly English bambini) and swan around in Armani. THEY DON’T.

And as for being racist - they are even regionalist ! Had the car spat on once because of the number plate… and one’s surname is dissected to see if it is from an unapproved location. So you can imagine what the general opinion of recent arrivals is…

DoughnutDreamer · 02/06/2026 18:21

AImportantMermaid · 31/05/2026 15:20

I think this when I go to Italy. I always say to my partner, ‘The Italians have really got their shit together’. The culture, the food, the wine, the clothes, the language…it all feels so relaxed yet exuberant.

And yet, the worst and most consistent racism I have ever witnessed is from Italians, the area of Italy my dh comes from is filthy, litter along every road, broken glass on the beaches, and graffiti everywhere. Eating a nice plate of food and drinking lovely wine in the Italian sunshine doesn’t mean Italy has its shit together.

Allonthesametrain · 02/06/2026 18:17

Having travelled a lot and studied/worked mostly within Europe, I absolutely agree! The kids generally have their own style and not the same sheep fashion. Varied hairstyles, clothes, lots of scarves, also just seem more mature and dare I say a 'chav' attire and attitude has been extremely rare. When I do school trips the difference is remarkable; our girls in crop tops, all have straight long hair, false eyelashes, gym pants; other countries more natural, bit punky, no grey sweat pants, individual and far less Kardashian.

hourglass2 · 02/06/2026 15:59

LongDistanceClara44 · 31/05/2026 17:42

Great, another thread slagging the English off and 43% of voters agree. It's so boring and depressing.

Yep sick of it now.....

hourglass2 · 02/06/2026 15:53

PebbleDashedDoor · 31/05/2026 14:12

I’m on holiday in the Balkans and like everytime I go overseas, it’s difficult not to conclude people from other countries are just better than us.

Immaculately kept, litter free, great service in bars and restaurants by experienced staff, polite well behaved kids eating out in restaurants, not a screen in sight. Everyone generally better looking, better dressed.

Or do I have rose tinted holiday goggles on?

Yes rose tinted glasses a plenty.....

SlightlyAjar · 02/06/2026 15:52

SmashThePatriarchy · 02/06/2026 14:18

Of course I have, I’ve been myself. I have never heard anyone refer to it as “The Balkans”.

I don’t it that wildly unusual. Certainly quicker and easier to say if you’re touring around and covering multiple countries in the former Yugoslavia, Bulgaria, Albania etc.than listing them.

Snakebite61 · 02/06/2026 15:44

PebbleDashedDoor · 31/05/2026 14:12

I’m on holiday in the Balkans and like everytime I go overseas, it’s difficult not to conclude people from other countries are just better than us.

Immaculately kept, litter free, great service in bars and restaurants by experienced staff, polite well behaved kids eating out in restaurants, not a screen in sight. Everyone generally better looking, better dressed.

Or do I have rose tinted holiday goggles on?

Reform mugs are proof foreigners are better than us.

SmashThePatriarchy · 02/06/2026 14:18

tulipseason12 · 01/06/2026 23:08

you've never heard of belgrade nightlife scene? or people going on holiday to croatia or montenegro? 😂😂😂what planet do you live on lol

Of course I have, I’ve been myself. I have never heard anyone refer to it as “The Balkans”.

Scarlettjune · 02/06/2026 14:02

MeAndStuart1981 · 02/06/2026 13:54

It sounds like your parents/folks fed you English hate growing up after they had a bad experience. I do understand as someone in my life growing up used to make comments about certain people and as a child you absorb this, but luckily I developed my own mind. Otherwise I would've been hating people with the same bias, abusing them and then getting abuse back.

You catch more flies with honey than vinegar. Most folk are nice if you are nice too.

No my parents didn't talk about it alot to be honest.

I've experienced things myself that have formed my own opinion. I always feel happy in Spain, Italy, Scotland and Ireland for example. I always feel tense and unhappy in england. There is just more hostility and unkindness in england towards me. I am living here at the moment as I chose to work here. I thought it would be a good move but I haven't been happy here. So I am looking elsewhere. Life's too short to be miserable

JHound · 02/06/2026 13:56

YABU.

MeAndStuart1981 · 02/06/2026 13:54

Scarlettjune · 02/06/2026 13:15

By "an" Englishman/woman?

It's been way more than from one person. Some of My family have also experienced nastiness from English people, before I was born. Some of my Friends have also experienced nastiness and cruelty.

Yes not all English people are like that. But the most abuse I have received in my life has been from English people. I've never experienced nastiness from Scottish, Irish, American, Spanish, italians. Not once

Edited

It sounds like your parents/folks fed you English hate growing up after they had a bad experience. I do understand as someone in my life growing up used to make comments about certain people and as a child you absorb this, but luckily I developed my own mind. Otherwise I would've been hating people with the same bias, abusing them and then getting abuse back.

You catch more flies with honey than vinegar. Most folk are nice if you are nice too.

Scarlettjune · 02/06/2026 13:24

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 02/06/2026 13:21

Just noticed this after I posted my last post. I'm so sorry that you have been treated so badly by people, and it's been pretty much all British/English. I do promise you though that we're not all mean, cruel, and nasty, and many of us have kind hearts. Flowers

Thank you. Kind words can transcend nationality

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 02/06/2026 13:21

Scarlettjune · 02/06/2026 13:15

By "an" Englishman/woman?

It's been way more than from one person. Some of My family have also experienced nastiness from English people, before I was born. Some of my Friends have also experienced nastiness and cruelty.

Yes not all English people are like that. But the most abuse I have received in my life has been from English people. I've never experienced nastiness from Scottish, Irish, American, Spanish, italians. Not once

Edited

Just noticed this after I posted my last post. I'm so sorry that you have been treated so badly by people, and it's been pretty much all British/English. I do promise you though that we're not all mean, cruel, and nasty, and many of us have kind hearts. Flowers

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 02/06/2026 13:19

MeAndStuart1981 · 02/06/2026 12:51

I think Scarlettjune has been hurt by an Englishman/woman in the past and we should cut her some slack. Don't let the hate eat you up, there are cold and nasty English people, just the same as in Ireland/Scotland/Wales. We are all different in personality, you get bad ones who show no emotion - did someone ghost you? Horrible when that happens.

But there are so many good English people too and you should know this if you are living in England, as you say.

Yes, there's definitely some projecting going on. It makes my soul weep though, that anyone thinks that the British (English!) are so nasty and cruel and cold. We are a lovely, kind nation, and my heart aches for anyone who feels so much bitterness and hate towards an entire nation. That has to be a reason for it (as you say) but still, it sad, and also ridiculous in equal measures to tar everyone with the same brush.

Scarlettjune · 02/06/2026 13:17

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 02/06/2026 13:13

Yes I am being serious. Most people on here are lovely. It's a shame you're not seeing all these nice and funny people. You are just choosing to see/pick out the bad posters/the not-so-nice posters, and are coming across as having a very negative attitude. As a pp said, try going to some boards other than AIBU. This is well known for being harsh!

I think it's very sad that you have such a low opinion of British people (well, English if we're being honest here!) You should open your heart and meet with and talk to a lot more Brits. You'll see we are a lovely, funny, kind nation with huge warm hearts. Smile The British are an awesome nation. I love being British, and am very proud of being British!

I have seen nice people on mumsnet. But I've seen worse bullying on here than on any other forum

Scarlettjune · 02/06/2026 13:15

MeAndStuart1981 · 02/06/2026 12:51

I think Scarlettjune has been hurt by an Englishman/woman in the past and we should cut her some slack. Don't let the hate eat you up, there are cold and nasty English people, just the same as in Ireland/Scotland/Wales. We are all different in personality, you get bad ones who show no emotion - did someone ghost you? Horrible when that happens.

But there are so many good English people too and you should know this if you are living in England, as you say.

By "an" Englishman/woman?

It's been way more than from one person. Some of My family have also experienced nastiness from English people, before I was born. Some of my Friends have also experienced nastiness and cruelty.

Yes not all English people are like that. But the most abuse I have received in my life has been from English people. I've never experienced nastiness from Scottish, Irish, American, Spanish, italians. Not once

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 02/06/2026 13:13

Scarlettjune · 02/06/2026 12:42

The majority of people on mumsnet are funny, Kind and helpful. Are you serious?

I see posters being bullied and trashed into the ground on here every week

Yes I am being serious. Most people on here are lovely. It's a shame you're not seeing all these nice and funny people. You are just choosing to see/pick out the bad posters/the not-so-nice posters, and are coming across as having a very negative attitude. As a pp said, try going to some boards other than AIBU. This is well known for being harsh!

I think it's very sad that you have such a low opinion of British people (well, English if we're being honest here!) You should open your heart and meet with and talk to a lot more Brits. You'll see we are a lovely, funny, kind nation with huge warm hearts. Smile The British are an awesome nation. I love being British, and am very proud of being British!

EmeraldShamrock000 · 02/06/2026 12:58

Scarlettjune · 02/06/2026 11:48

Another thing that shows how cold the English culture can be.

Mumsnet, a forum that was launched in England, is a forum full of bullying, coldness and nastiness.

Posters that start threads are often mocked, belittled and derided.

No other forum that I see anywhere online is as cruel as this one.

Hang around on a different board to Aibu. There is relationships, chat, etc, aibu has always had tough, although I do agree that at times it’s a frenzy of vipers snipping.
Push them back in their box.
There is so many great people on mnet. Telly addicts is a great place for a good laugh.

tulipseason12 · 02/06/2026 12:58

Scarlettjune · 02/06/2026 00:13

You missed her point

did i? because i consider myself Balkan and every other Balkan person i know will say 'im going on holiday to balkans' most of us have families all over balkans and in one day we could visit three separate borders just to go for a beach day or to a restaurant sometimes even to a shop because stuff is chesper across the border lol its just essier saying balkan than a specific country.
plus we share same dna so realistically we are all same
people wether we're from croatia serbia bosnia or montenegro etc

x2boys · 02/06/2026 12:55

Scarlettjune · 02/06/2026 11:48

Another thing that shows how cold the English culture can be.

Mumsnet, a forum that was launched in England, is a forum full of bullying, coldness and nastiness.

Posters that start threads are often mocked, belittled and derided.

No other forum that I see anywhere online is as cruel as this one.

Oh dont be ridiculous
Thats the nature of the internet you know the world wide web
People think they can say anything because its annonymous
And yes AIBU can be brutal but thats not the only forum on mumsnet

MeAndStuart1981 · 02/06/2026 12:51

I think Scarlettjune has been hurt by an Englishman/woman in the past and we should cut her some slack. Don't let the hate eat you up, there are cold and nasty English people, just the same as in Ireland/Scotland/Wales. We are all different in personality, you get bad ones who show no emotion - did someone ghost you? Horrible when that happens.

But there are so many good English people too and you should know this if you are living in England, as you say.

Scarlettjune · 02/06/2026 12:42

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 02/06/2026 12:25

Kindly @Scarlettjune I think you need to take a break for a few weeks from the internet. A lot of things on it seem to be upsetting you. I don't see anyone being mean and 'cold' and most British people are lovely, warm, funny, kind people. And whilst Mumsnet can have some pretty harsh posters, the majority are really funny, kind, and helpful.

Not a dig, not being mean, just some advice. I think you need to step away from the internet for a few weeks. Go for a few walks. Read a book. See some friends. Get out in the sun. Smile

The majority of people on mumsnet are funny, Kind and helpful. Are you serious?

I see posters being bullied and trashed into the ground on here every week

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