People from other countries - they’re just better than us, aren’t they?

A older lady who returned to england said it was disgusting after years living elsewhere how much it had changed and the statement of dog shit up the streets had me crack up.
Along with others refusing to return to the Uk...claiming it is a less desireable unfortune for us thst we are stuck with a few that know better as well.

Yes. Whenever I come back to Ireland I always notice how sloppy people have become in their appearance, including myself. I could make more of an effort.
The public services are spotless unlike the diseased random public bathrooms available in Ireland.
I don’t see a crisp white shirt for miles.

Speak for yourself OP.

Post a photo of yourself so we can admire your beauty

I think there's a big difference between going on holiday somewhere and living there. If you don't agree why not looking into moving abroad OP?

I so wish I was Parisian 😌

The chic kind, not the endless riots kind

Do not only are Brits crap at.everything we are all ugly too🙄🙄🙄.

Nail on the head there with all your points, especially the bit where we seem to be encouraged to "self loath" as a nation. Never experienced that anywhere else except the UK - most other countries I've been to are proud of their nation, and like you say, proud to fly the flag etc.

The OP clearly hasn't been to places like Egypt, The Gambia, Jamaica nor Kenya where street crime is rife, as are litter-strewn streets, etc. Yes the "tourist" bits are well looked after and often have private security and "gated" shopping areas/local markets, etc, but go out of your manicured hotel grounds into where the locals live and work, and you can literally be walking through a sea of litter and other rubbish and are at high risk of being pick-pocketed at best, or jewelry such as watches being ripped off your wrist.

I do kind of know what you mean. Part of the problem is our underclass. We have a vicious, feral underclass in the U.K., and we can do nothing with them. Both the left and right have utterly failed. Nothing works. All countries have criminals, and all countries have a underclass, but in Britain it just seems larger and uglier and nastier than everywhere else. Let me stress that by ‘underclass’ I do not mean the poor. On the contrary, the decent poor are their main victims.

Another big problem is the self-loathing. I really notice this when I’m abroad. Other countries will fly their flag and take great pride in their writers and scientists. But we have this weird masochistic streak. We are taught to hate ourselves and reject our own history and culture. The obvious result is that you no longer give a sh*t about the society around you. If you are brought up to hate and reject your own culture, you’re not going to care if the local bus shelter is vandalised!! Who cares?! It’s a vile, shameful country anyway!

Councils are to blame for this as well.

Try living with neighbours who are Roma gypsies and you might change your mind.

Russian bot.

In Ireland and Germany seems to do everything around twenty years before we do😅😅😅

Nope. People suck everywhere. Also, holiday destinations will massively differ from their inner city/rural areas. Just like here.

Do you live in London OP?

I deliberately used lower case in high street, @catspyjamas1 .
Stevenage Old Town is lovely. The town centre isn't a shit hole but it's probably not the prettiest in the UK.

Slough has some lovely parks and is very close to Eton and Windsor.

Old Town, Stevenage - Visit Herts

You seem to be behind the times @SmashThePatriarchy .

There was the Balkans War in the 90s that redrew maps and renamed countries.

This.

Foreigners who come on holiday to their UK will wander round the City, Westminster, sloane square etc, Cambridge/Oxford, York, bath.

They don't tend to visit the more deprived areas like small towns in the north east, deprived coastal towns like jaywick or Blackpool, or the average dull commuter town.

Are you also on holiday in 1912? Haven’t heard anyone refer to going on holiday to “the Balkans” before 😂.

And yet their politics are a shitshow, the job market is lagging, and pay and conditions are often poor, there’s a housing crisis, the bureaucracy is painful, and there are very poor parts — it’s a lovely country, but it has its problems too.

I think the average British person is fine. The problem is that we have a disproportionate number of chavs who display loud, loutish behaviour and show the rest of us up. I also think that British people are, unfortunately, not as good looking, on average, compared to most other countries. Not sure why, but I suspect that it’s partly the climate, lack of exercise, poor diet etc. Also, lots of people with appalling dress sense, who insist that they should be able to ‘wear what they want’, even when the that involves everything hanging out on display!

I notice this in various parts of Spain we have visited (including the less “touristy” areas). A sense of civic pride and community spirit. Litter and street cleaning given a priority after local parades & festivals, I’ve even seen rubble cleared quickly after floods.

Many people smartly dressed, a sense of joy about life, church going embraced by all the family, including teens.

So many areas here looking really run down and with litter and dog poo left lying. Just my opinion.

I think this when I go to Italy. I always say to my partner, ‘The Italians have really got their shit together’. The culture, the food, the wine, the clothes, the language…it all feels so relaxed yet exuberant.

Best not look up any Balkan history from the past 30 / 40 years eh OP? You might be in for a shock.

If you are posting from Croatia, YANBU. One of the cleanest, most crime free countries in Europe. If you are posting from Belgrade train station or any back street in a Montenegro seaside resort YABU.