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People from other countries - they’re just better than us, aren’t they?

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PebbleDashedDoor · 31/05/2026 14:12

I’m on holiday in the Balkans and like everytime I go overseas, it’s difficult not to conclude people from other countries are just better than us.

Immaculately kept, litter free, great service in bars and restaurants by experienced staff, polite well behaved kids eating out in restaurants, not a screen in sight. Everyone generally better looking, better dressed.

Or do I have rose tinted holiday goggles on?

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WirralWool · 31/05/2026 16:56

Crushed23 · 31/05/2026 15:12

The only thing I can agree with is customer service in shops/restaurants/bars. I can’t get over how bad this is in the UK. I’ve heard this being blamed on ‘capitalism’ but I live in the US now, a far more capitalist society, and service is generally much, much better. And it’s not just because of tipping culture, because service is better in places where you don’t tip - off-licence, supermarket, takeaway coffee shops etc.

Perhaps we think being indiscriminately nice and polite to people is beneath us, even if it’s part of our job?

I’m in France and customer service is non-existent! Routinely wait 20-30 minutes to get drinks orders taken and the same again for them to arrive. If you have a problem with anything you’re met with a shrug and told that nothing can be done. People push onto the metro in front even though they can see I’m visibly disabled and never offer a seat.

It’s just their culture. I do love this country and there is so much about it that is streets ahead of the UK, but it also makes me appreciate the good things about home too.

wizzywig · 31/05/2026 16:55

Love living here and im born and bred here. If theres a lot of brits who dont like where they live then that shows in how they live. Glass half empty folk

lazymaw · 31/05/2026 16:53

on my last all inclusive holiday a foreign family with two kids gave their kids screens for every meal, so I would disagree on that front alone. I have seen many foreign families do the same, it’s not just the UK 🤣

Scarlettjune · 31/05/2026 16:52

Yes. There's definitely a coldness, arrogance and sense of entitlement that you see in many English people that you don't see in other cultures.

It has been handed down from the colonialism days

BoredZelda · 31/05/2026 16:51

Dappy777 · 31/05/2026 15:49

I do kind of know what you mean. Part of the problem is our underclass. We have a vicious, feral underclass in the U.K., and we can do nothing with them. Both the left and right have utterly failed. Nothing works. All countries have criminals, and all countries have a underclass, but in Britain it just seems larger and uglier and nastier than everywhere else. Let me stress that by ‘underclass’ I do not mean the poor. On the contrary, the decent poor are their main victims.

Another big problem is the self-loathing. I really notice this when I’m abroad. Other countries will fly their flag and take great pride in their writers and scientists. But we have this weird masochistic streak. We are taught to hate ourselves and reject our own history and culture. The obvious result is that you no longer give a sh*t about the society around you. If you are brought up to hate and reject your own culture, you’re not going to care if the local bus shelter is vandalised!! Who cares?! It’s a vile, shameful country anyway!

Or just maybe, when you are in a place for a week or two, you have no idea what the “underclass” 🤢 is doing.

wow217 · 31/05/2026 16:49

SocialistMummy · 31/05/2026 15:13

They don't have Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage abroad - so yes!

Ohhh we have our own versions... We're not better than the British; we're different, that's all!

NotAnotherScarf · 31/05/2026 16:46

No you're wrong you're seeing the side of the country that the people who work in tourism want you to see.

Im currently in france in a town I've visited several times before and have seen the following: cooked chicken being left out in the open at a market, just on top of the cooker. Dog shit in many places. Un paved pavements. Vicious dogs leaping at you as you walk past. Men pissing where they want. Last night I walked into the communal bathroom and a woman was washing her tuppence in the sink.

I still love the town and will come back.

Northermcharn · 31/05/2026 16:42

missmollygreen · 31/05/2026 14:21

Britain is the absolute worst. It is why we have no immigration or tourism, absolutely no one wants to come here... oh wait...

😆Quite

Coffeeandbooks88 · 31/05/2026 16:40

SocialistMummy · 31/05/2026 16:36

Just a shame what the person who invented Harry Potter became

Campaigning the rights of women sounds good to me.

MasterBeth · 31/05/2026 16:40

Lunde · 31/05/2026 14:41

I think that other countries - especially Europe - have a better attitude to vocational training and having a trained workforce for all sorts of jobs. Working in shops/restaurants is not looked down on as it is in the UK. All sorts of vocational courses are included as A-level studies - hotel, restaurant, tourism, retail etc.

For example I was trying to buy a toaster in a small town Denmark and the shop assistent who approached me explained she was on her final placement for the Retail Programme so was it OK if she served me "by herself". She proceeded to give me a run down on all the toasters in the shop, functions, price, pros and cons etc. I can't imagine that in the UK.

Good. Who needs an in-depth conversation to buy a toaster? Give me an Argos catalogue and a pen and let's get on with it.

SuddenlyBecoming · 31/05/2026 16:37

OP If you really believe it, then try to inact the changes you need to create what you are seeing

Mithral · 31/05/2026 16:37

The British exceptionalism is hilarious. It even applies to negatives.

No you're not particularly worse than anywhere else FFS.

I've lived lots of places and now live in a lovely bit of the UK. The driving is better here than lots of countries, there is less violent crime than lots of countries, you're reasonably high up the obesity charts but not at the top. I love the fashion here compared to my home town but I'm comparing a small town to a big city which isn't fair.

SocialistMummy · 31/05/2026 16:36

scalt · 31/05/2026 16:12

Wasn’t the French equivalent a certain Jean-Marie Le Pen?

We invented Harry Potter, and nobody can say the rest of the world took it and made it better, like they did with other British things, like football, and the railways.

Just a shame what the person who invented Harry Potter became

neilisbangingoutthetunes · 31/05/2026 16:29

Agreed OP - Europeans are just somehow better than us fat, pasty, badly-dressed Brits and our feral children. Thankfully whenever I go abroad, the locals simply cannot believe I'm British because I'm so well-dressed (in tasteful, muted tones) and my children so vitamin-sufficient.

MidnightMeltdown · 31/05/2026 16:28

It’s also a discipline problem. From what have seen, European parents are, on average, much, much stricter with kids and young people than British parents.

MrsHeathcliff26 · 31/05/2026 16:28

I am in Italy now and have just come from Copenhagen and Japan and as an Aussie we could definitely learn a thing or two about manners and order from the latter and about style and beauty in general from the Danes. The world is a big place and we can all visit and bring a little of that back home with us.

igelkott2026 · 31/05/2026 16:28

Well I've just been in a (Western) European country which had a significant litter problem.

I suspect the clean places pay people to pick up litter while our councils are always claiming poverty and don't do it and rely on litter pickers (and also don't empty bins often enough so people leave their stuff next to a full bin and then the foxes or whatever get at it).

Totaldramallama · 31/05/2026 16:24

mindutopia · 31/05/2026 14:26

I’m American (also British and live in the UK). Trust me, we are not better. 90% of my American friends wish they had my dual citizenship and lived in the UK. I have lived in 4 countries as an adult. Very happy to have settled in the UK and would not want to raise my children in any of the others.

Sorry but I don't think a single person thinks Americans are better than Brits 😂😂 I think op was talking about European destinations

stayput · 31/05/2026 16:20

My MIL was from another country and she was vile.

It's weird that you think people are 'better' if they're good looking and well dressed. The kids probably behave because otherwise they're hit.

Maybe you should just move abroad if it's so great everywhere else OP? Personally I think it's really beautiful and very lovely where I live. I don't really care if they people around me are good looking and dress well though.

Boomer55 · 31/05/2026 16:18

PebbleDashedDoor · 31/05/2026 14:12

I’m on holiday in the Balkans and like everytime I go overseas, it’s difficult not to conclude people from other countries are just better than us.

Immaculately kept, litter free, great service in bars and restaurants by experienced staff, polite well behaved kids eating out in restaurants, not a screen in sight. Everyone generally better looking, better dressed.

Or do I have rose tinted holiday goggles on?

I went to Malta, some years back, and flew back early because it was so dirty and grim.

Coffeeandbooks88 · 31/05/2026 16:16

I hate to say it but the worst areas for us tend to be where they have a high immigration community. It seems to have gone to shit really badly. One area I know Roma live and they dump all the rubbish on the pavement. Grim.

Paquitavariation · 31/05/2026 16:16

AImportantMermaid · 31/05/2026 15:20

I think this when I go to Italy. I always say to my partner, ‘The Italians have really got their shit together’. The culture, the food, the wine, the clothes, the language…it all feels so relaxed yet exuberant.

They really, really haven’t. Pay is low, taxes are high, they’re taxed from the first € they earn, no zero band. Strikes are frequent, anything that requires a government official to work on it works at a snails pace or not at all. The tourist places look lovely generally but in most cities and towns there’s masses of graffiti, and high crime areas just like in parts of the U.K. Racism is rife.

It’s lovely to visit, but it’s just like the U.K. under the surface.

scalt · 31/05/2026 16:12

SocialistMummy · 31/05/2026 15:13

They don't have Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage abroad - so yes!

Wasn’t the French equivalent a certain Jean-Marie Le Pen?

We invented Harry Potter, and nobody can say the rest of the world took it and made it better, like they did with other British things, like football, and the railways.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 31/05/2026 16:12

In Spain when they clear up their dogs mess, they rinse the pavement with a squirting bottle of soapy water, the rubbish is never left for long to avoid cockroaches the area, the beaches are cleaned every night, the communities de weed the pavements. It works well even in the poorer communities.

curious79 · 31/05/2026 16:06

Is this the same Balkans people who were shooting one another into mass graves and committing horrendous war crimes in the 90s? Yes, I’ve always thought they were much better than us. Ffs

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