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To deny neighbour access to render extension?

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Amberlynnswashcloth · 31/05/2026 12:34

Semi detached neighbours are building extension within millimeters of the shared fence allowing no access from their own property for maintenance. Predictibly, they now want access to my garden to render the outside and to do this they would need to remove the fence and everything near the fence like my seating area, storage box, potted plants etc. I don't want to agree to this. There's the inconvenience of not being able to use our garden, DCs wont be able to play outside and I'd have to keep the dog in. My main issue is that the layout of the houses means the wall is literally right outside my kitchen/livingroom window which feels really close and intrusive and when people are working on it they are literally looking right at me sitting in my house. I don't want workman coming any closer into our space - we are trying to enjoy the nice weather and it's been quite disruptive as it is.

Anyone had experience with this? Its really stressing me out as I don't like to be deliberately obstructive but I strongly don't want to agree to this and feel it's not my problem to solve. I accept that refusal might mean forever looking at an ugly wall but I plan to grow something climbing to mask it.

They are waiting for an answer.

AIBU to say 'no'?

Edited to add that they don't want access right now - just at some point.

OP posts:
cowandplough · 01/06/2026 19:16

Are they unreasonable requesting intrusive access? They should have considered this before the project got so far

keepsmiling20 · 01/06/2026 19:15

From experience .... building that close to the boundary, they should have had a party wall agreement in place before any work started (too late to enforce now). The builders would have known this.

Our neighbours wanted to take the fence down so they could render paint the wall. They then went back on their word to replace the fence saying it was rotten anyway and we would need to replace. They also left a trail on render and paint on the patio and raised borders.

If scaffolding is required, get a timeframe in writing and add a reasonable time for delays. State that if scaffolding is still in place after agreed date, there will be a charge of £x per day / week until removed. Otherwise the scaffolders will leave standing for as long as they can get away with as they are not paying for storage.

Does their guttering overhang the boundary? If so they will need to ask you very nicely for an easement in writing (you do not have to agree) otherwise there will be issues when either of you come to sell. If you are not happy with the overhang, then you request that the work is redone ensuring the guttering does not overhang the boundary.

If you agree to any work being done and fences being taken down, take photos of the area affected and put it in writing that you expect your side to be returned to exactly how it was before (no paint/render on any surface and any borders/grass returned to original state). If there are dates that they cannot work (if you've something on or people visiting, put this in writing along with times they can work.

Where solicitors become involved, it gets expensive. Check your household insurance policy as that may include legal aid (if you need to go down that route or get an official letter sent).

A lot of this could have been avoided if your neighbours had popped in for a chat with a cake or bottle of wine to let them know what's happening.

Diamondsareforever72 · 01/06/2026 18:56

Tableforjoan · 31/05/2026 13:09

I wouldn’t, I wouldn’t trust them not to damage things or to replace or fix things they do break.

They should have thought about this when they decided to build their extension mere mm away from the boundary.

We have lost a load of plants this year from our Arsehole neighbours and their work. Despite promises of fixing or replacing anything they damage they haven’t. So from now on they get to go fuck themselves zero good will.

Edited

My neighbours took down my fence and drove over my driveway with their digger, without saying a word to me! 🤬
The builder seemed to think that this was acceptable.
Their promise of fixing the fence never happened.
Several years later, it’s hanging on by a thread.
It’s MY fence btw.

PeachyPeachTrees · 01/06/2026 18:52

Get it all in writing that they are moving your stuff and putting it back exactly the same. If not, they pay for damage. Have 'before' photos and rear camera pointed at the area. Do it only at a time that suits you. It will look neater for you if it's rendered. It's no accident they didn't mention it, they are not nice neighbours. My semi detached neighbours have an extension mm from my boundary too, it blocks light into my dining room. The wall is ugly and I can't grow anything there as never any sun on it.

mindfulmoaning · 01/06/2026 18:51

I’d arrange it for a time that’s the least inconvenient to you, get it agreed that they will return everything to the exact state it was before and clear up ALL mess, and that it will take no longer than x days
Not sure how you hold them to this but maybe ask for legal advice cos my main concerns would be around a big mess and the work overrunning considerably so that I couldn’t use the space for weeks

Anonymum100 · 01/06/2026 18:41

OP - are you in Scotland? You mention a building warrant is in place which suggests you might be. If so there is no Party Wall Act or Agreement, as this only relates to England. (Not sure about Wales and N Ireland).

TheCraftySquid · 01/06/2026 18:37

A Party Wall Agreement is needed. It doesn’t matter that they haven’t crossed your boundary to build. If the permitted development is digging foundations within 3 metres of your boundary, they need an agreement. This has to be submitted 2 months before construction begins and you have 14 days to submit objections. This process is in place for this very reason. You could have asked how they plan to maintain it, at which point you could have objected.

I would not agree to anything until they have paid for a PWA, then around that, you can dictate your terms. You do not have to allow anyone on you property but if you agree you need some very clear terms around remediation, should anything be damaged.

personally, I would engage with a solicitor as they appear to not have followed the correct process.

UnderstatedMe · 01/06/2026 18:31

I fear we are all talking into the ether. The OP is not listening

Mumstheword1983 · 01/06/2026 18:29

NoahDia · 31/05/2026 12:52

YABU and petty.

Rendering will take a matter of hours.

This.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 01/06/2026 18:23

I think you have to unfortunately.

ThatLemonBee · 01/06/2026 18:01

Get compensated . I had a neighbor access my property around 10 years ago it took 2 months for the same and then ages to remove everything. I was compensated £2000 for the disruption and a further £1000 for delays in removing scaffolding. Get a contract drawn . It was still disruptive as hell but at least I could take the kids out a few times . I won’t lie , I’m not sure I would allow it again , not for the same amount

Weald56 · 01/06/2026 17:52

Amberlynnswashcloth · 31/05/2026 18:30

Aah. I wonder if that's why they didn't tell me.? Save a bit of money on solicitors fees and assume that I'll agree with their requests for access in the future.

I would get legal advice now - otherwise you may find it difficult to sell your house in the future. And the question I'd ask my solicitor is 'have they broken any regulations which will make it difficult for me to sell the house in future'. To be honest I can see lots of issues here and you may need to get them to alter their extension to make it smaller.

Stelladid · 01/06/2026 17:48

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Itsallthebsame · 01/06/2026 17:32

Amberlynnswashcloth · 31/05/2026 13:09

Thanks for all your views.

It's within permitted development so no opportunity to object to anything despite this blocking out my light.

Not planning to grow anything on their wall - just on my side.

Although awkward (and expensive) for them, I wonder if there is a way of doing it from above or using some telescopic tool to access the space between their wall and our fence from their side?

If I agreed to let them and set specific times and ground rules should this be done informally or ask them to get legal papers? Would that be OTT? I just don't trust them and other things have happened that tell me they don't take a lot of care with other people's property. I don't like them, honestly, but I make the effort to be neighbourly and considerate. They don't give a hoot.

Our new neighbours planned a massive extension and didn't want to listen to any of our concerns so we had a PARTY WALL agreement put in place. It didn't cost us anything, as the neighbours have to pay and they were much nicer to us after this.

Aluna · 01/06/2026 17:11

What’s the party wall situation? Is the height within the single story restriction? (3-4m), Is there a gap for drainage? What is the drainage plan? While there be any roof or gutter overhang?

BeOchreDog · 01/06/2026 16:59

Have you checked your deeds? Lots of properties have rights to maintain their property from a neighbouring property.

Tortephant · 01/06/2026 16:55

OP would insist on an RICS party wall surveyor draw up an agreement and “manage” this part eg the fence render and so on. This person are visits to ensure all fair and done properly. Protecting both of you.

MabelAnderson · 01/06/2026 16:46

Amberlynnswashcloth · 31/05/2026 13:09

Thanks for all your views.

It's within permitted development so no opportunity to object to anything despite this blocking out my light.

Not planning to grow anything on their wall - just on my side.

Although awkward (and expensive) for them, I wonder if there is a way of doing it from above or using some telescopic tool to access the space between their wall and our fence from their side?

If I agreed to let them and set specific times and ground rules should this be done informally or ask them to get legal papers? Would that be OTT? I just don't trust them and other things have happened that tell me they don't take a lot of care with other people's property. I don't like them, honestly, but I make the effort to be neighbourly and considerate. They don't give a hoot.

I thought you couldn’t build any closer than a metre from the boundary ?
Our old neighbour built exactly a metre from us in spite of having a huge plot to play with. Such a shitty thing to do. They also then asked us to let them put scaffolding in our garden to work on their build. I reluctantly agreed, but actually wished that I’d said no, as the scaffolding was there for well over a year, possibly two, and they trampled all over my plants.

SignGrudgeBluebook · 01/06/2026 16:35

Bulbsbulbsbulbs · 01/06/2026 16:28

No they don't.You can build right up to the boundary, even under permitted development but you are meant to put a party wall agreement in place. But if you don't do o a party wall agreement there is literally no come back at all.

The Party Wall Handbook is an edifying read on the matter.

This exact situation with my neighbour nearly did for me. People can be utter cunts, I moved in the end.

Ahh thanks. We left a clear metre and that was next to a field. We still asked for permission to put the outriggers of the scaffolding in the farmers field and he agreed.

I think I would just allow it provided I had an agreement for the householder (not the tradesmen) to make good in the event of damage and took lots of photos of the 'before'.

You never know when you might need your neighbours goodwill. I have a NDN on the other side and if I saw his house was on fire in the night I wouldn't ring him. He pulled a prank showing off in front of visitors 20 years ago and nearly killed my dog in the process. He has never said sorry and I haven't spoken to him to this day and I have always made an effort to get along with my NDNs.

Life's too short to say no IMHO.

Bulbsbulbsbulbs · 01/06/2026 16:28

SignGrudgeBluebook · 01/06/2026 16:23

I thought all building work had to have a clear meter for this sort of thing?

Is it worth checking the plans to see if they conform?

No they don't.You can build right up to the boundary, even under permitted development but you are meant to put a party wall agreement in place. But if you don't do o a party wall agreement there is literally no come back at all.

The Party Wall Handbook is an edifying read on the matter.

This exact situation with my neighbour nearly did for me. People can be utter cunts, I moved in the end.

ThisOneLife · 01/06/2026 16:25

CanSeeClearlyNowTheRainHasGone · 31/05/2026 12:46

If you need access to do essential work on your own property (like painting, repairing a roof, or fixing a wall), you have two main routes:

Ask for Permission: Always try talking to your neighbour first. If they agree, get it in writing.

The Access to Neighbouring Land Act 1992: If they refuse, you can apply to the County Court for an Access Order. A judge can grant this if the work is essential for the preservation of your house and cannot be done otherwise.

Is their work essential?
Doubt it.

So sounds like they're stuffed and you effectively can hold them to ransom if you want to. Not necessarily good for future relations though.

However, if you choose to allow them to, you can make it contingent on payment for your disruption. How much is a conversation to be had between yourselves but payment is a classic way of resolving disputes.

Tender is essential for a house to make it waterproof!

SignGrudgeBluebook · 01/06/2026 16:23

YourPoliteTurtle · 31/05/2026 14:59

These people always are CF, they push their own boundaries as much as they could because they assume they can then use somebody else's property for access and maintenance.

What happens if the OP decides to build an extension within millimetres of the fence too? They won't have access either. They just count on the neighbour having to suck it up, and being now unable to build an extension themselves.

I thought all building work had to have a clear meter for this sort of thing?

Is it worth checking the plans to see if they conform?

FreeWillFever · 01/06/2026 16:23

holachicatita · 31/05/2026 12:44

I'd just let them. It'll be inconvenient but sometimes in life things are. I'd rather be a good neighbour than be deliberately awkward.

Good answer, me too

PinkTonic · 01/06/2026 16:21

If they built it so close to the fence they should have used bricks that wouldn’t need rendering and ongoing maintenance. Inconsiderate and entitled!

Namenamchange · 01/06/2026 16:19

Are you happy with how it looks now?

My dad said no to something very similar, and it’ looks awful. Things is they don’t see it their side only us.