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To deny neighbour access to render extension?

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Amberlynnswashcloth · 31/05/2026 12:34

Semi detached neighbours are building extension within millimeters of the shared fence allowing no access from their own property for maintenance. Predictibly, they now want access to my garden to render the outside and to do this they would need to remove the fence and everything near the fence like my seating area, storage box, potted plants etc. I don't want to agree to this. There's the inconvenience of not being able to use our garden, DCs wont be able to play outside and I'd have to keep the dog in. My main issue is that the layout of the houses means the wall is literally right outside my kitchen/livingroom window which feels really close and intrusive and when people are working on it they are literally looking right at me sitting in my house. I don't want workman coming any closer into our space - we are trying to enjoy the nice weather and it's been quite disruptive as it is.

Anyone had experience with this? Its really stressing me out as I don't like to be deliberately obstructive but I strongly don't want to agree to this and feel it's not my problem to solve. I accept that refusal might mean forever looking at an ugly wall but I plan to grow something climbing to mask it.

They are waiting for an answer.

AIBU to say 'no'?

Edited to add that they don't want access right now - just at some point.

OP posts:
2thumbs · 01/06/2026 23:15

A party wall award would almost certainly not have been required. There’s no reason why the extension’s foundations would have needed to be deeper than those of the original semi, so the 3m rule isn’t relevant.

Whattodo1610 · 01/06/2026 23:02

anon2423 · 01/06/2026 21:03

If it blocks light then you can take it to court. There have been many MANY cases where parties building without consideration to their neighbours right to light have had instructions to take their developments down down. Their mortgage provider and insurer will be VERY interested that they don’t have agreement to block light. You also don’t have a party wall agreement which they also need to dig that close to your foundations. Those are not excluded just because it’s permitted development (it’s not permission to be a nightmare!!) Seek legal advice immediately. You do not want to be seen to be consenting to this, particularly when digging foundations to close to your own house could cause damage if done badly - you need proper consultation on this. You have grounds to sue.

There is no ‘right of light’ anymore. However, council planning would have taken all of this into account when assessing the plans and onsite visit before hand. There is a mathematical degree of light you must allow, the planner will measure this .. they did with ours recently.

icybreeze · 01/06/2026 23:01

FreeWillFever · 01/06/2026 21:32

Ridiculous. Just hope you never need any cooperation from your neighbours if that’s how you behave.

If people want cooperation from their neighbours they should probably stop and think before building selfishly designed extensions

Whattodo1610 · 01/06/2026 23:00

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 01/06/2026 18:23

I think you have to unfortunately.

No she doesn’t.

icybreeze · 01/06/2026 23:00

Goldencoast2 · 01/06/2026 22:56

You can say no, but I’d keep in mind future consequences. If I was in their position and you said no, I’d probably spend the rest of my time living there engaging in petty revenge. Calling the council at any hint of noise, reporting any issue I could possibly find etc

Weird how they didn't worry whether op might do that before they built a hulking great extension though.

Goldencoast2 · 01/06/2026 22:56

You can say no, but I’d keep in mind future consequences. If I was in their position and you said no, I’d probably spend the rest of my time living there engaging in petty revenge. Calling the council at any hint of noise, reporting any issue I could possibly find etc

Amberlynnswashcloth · 01/06/2026 21:57

Some really helpful suggestions. Thank you all!

OP posts:
Tocyprusornot · 01/06/2026 21:49

Good luck op!

Tableforjoan · 01/06/2026 21:38

FreeWillFever · 01/06/2026 21:32

Ridiculous. Just hope you never need any cooperation from your neighbours if that’s how you behave.

What type of goodwill could most people possibly need from someone who build away from the boundary with no notice, their builders climbing over the fence no permission and then wants to be cheeky enough to ask to move ops stuff to render their own extension.

Pretty much zero id say.

FreeWillFever · 01/06/2026 21:32

tierdytierd · 01/06/2026 21:20

If you’re able Invest in mounted cameras at various points (indoor through windows so they can’t easily cover them) or not obviously placed, along with regular photos.
and reply ‘with as there’s no legal party wall agreement, I’m going to have decline (Prefably in writing ie email/txt so they can’t deny receiving it, reaffirming any verbal discussions as an audit trail (as they sound like they don’t care whether you agree or not)
ensure your access is locked and the cameras are on recording incase they try and access by climbing your fence/damage your property/trespass & deny your quiet enjoyment & safety for your kids/pets/you/property
dont feel bad ..they won’t!

Ridiculous. Just hope you never need any cooperation from your neighbours if that’s how you behave.

ManintheCity · 01/06/2026 21:28

holachicatita · 31/05/2026 12:44

I'd just let them. It'll be inconvenient but sometimes in life things are. I'd rather be a good neighbour than be deliberately awkward.

As usual, first post nails it.

tierdytierd · 01/06/2026 21:20

If you’re able Invest in mounted cameras at various points (indoor through windows so they can’t easily cover them) or not obviously placed, along with regular photos.
and reply ‘with as there’s no legal party wall agreement, I’m going to have decline (Prefably in writing ie email/txt so they can’t deny receiving it, reaffirming any verbal discussions as an audit trail (as they sound like they don’t care whether you agree or not)
ensure your access is locked and the cameras are on recording incase they try and access by climbing your fence/damage your property/trespass & deny your quiet enjoyment & safety for your kids/pets/you/property
dont feel bad ..they won’t!

anon2423 · 01/06/2026 21:10

Amberlynnswashcloth · 31/05/2026 18:30

Aah. I wonder if that's why they didn't tell me.? Save a bit of money on solicitors fees and assume that I'll agree with their requests for access in the future.

Then they’re incredibly stupid - trying to save a penny and cost themselves a whole lot. Speak to your home insurance and check the position on legal fees as per your policy. They need a party wall agreement AND if any of your windows / garden are now blocked a right to light agreement. You have them over a barrel as they will be in breach of any funding taken out if you’ve not been consulted and consented - it could invalidate their mortgage.

anon2423 · 01/06/2026 21:03

Amberlynnswashcloth · 31/05/2026 13:09

Thanks for all your views.

It's within permitted development so no opportunity to object to anything despite this blocking out my light.

Not planning to grow anything on their wall - just on my side.

Although awkward (and expensive) for them, I wonder if there is a way of doing it from above or using some telescopic tool to access the space between their wall and our fence from their side?

If I agreed to let them and set specific times and ground rules should this be done informally or ask them to get legal papers? Would that be OTT? I just don't trust them and other things have happened that tell me they don't take a lot of care with other people's property. I don't like them, honestly, but I make the effort to be neighbourly and considerate. They don't give a hoot.

If it blocks light then you can take it to court. There have been many MANY cases where parties building without consideration to their neighbours right to light have had instructions to take their developments down down. Their mortgage provider and insurer will be VERY interested that they don’t have agreement to block light. You also don’t have a party wall agreement which they also need to dig that close to your foundations. Those are not excluded just because it’s permitted development (it’s not permission to be a nightmare!!) Seek legal advice immediately. You do not want to be seen to be consenting to this, particularly when digging foundations to close to your own house could cause damage if done badly - you need proper consultation on this. You have grounds to sue.

CookieTin · 01/06/2026 20:19

It could all end up very messy...
https://www.channel5.com/show/the-feud

5

https://www.channel5.com/show/the-feud

SemiRetiredLoveGoddeess · 01/06/2026 20:01

I would tell them you would allow the work to go ahead. But only on your terms.

Get a letter or short contract drawn up by your Solicitor with the main facts. Example when the work can place date times etc. Noise etc.

Also if they cause any damage to your property. Insurance etc. May also be a place for compensation for your loss of access to your garden. See it you charge them for seeing the Solicitor as well.

5foot5 · 01/06/2026 19:55

When you say it is within millimetres of your fence, how many millimetres? Only a PP stated that render needed to be 15mm thick. No idea if this is accurate but, is there a possibility that once the render is in place then the fence won't go back properly because the render has taken the wall over where the fence should fit.

Weemammy21 · 01/06/2026 19:50

Don't agree and don't trust them to make good any disruption or damage they cause to your family and property. They are playing you. Their decision to build so close to your home. Their problem to solve. Not your problem. Don't agree

Orangebadger · 01/06/2026 19:36

I was presuming you had a party wall agreement to protect damage to your side of the shared boundary in the event of damage. This is very separate to planning permission. To my understanding if upu are doing structural work on a building you need this with the people you share a wall with. It’s really to protect you both. I am surprised you don’t have this.

MyCleverCoralBee · 01/06/2026 19:34

Did you not object at the planning stage? When our neighbour planned a similar extension I objected on the grounds that they would need access to my property in order to build it and maintain it and that I wasnt prepared to give that permission. However I did state that I had no objection to them building an extention which was in line with our existing extention ( provided proper arrangements were made to ensure no damage was done to our roof and both could be maintained independently) or if it was not on the boundary line. The extention did not go ahead.

Orangebadger · 01/06/2026 19:32

We did an extension a few years ago. Had a few minor things with the party wall act that were rectified. Our neighbours let us render the wall and we painted it for them as they were not happy looking at a brown rendered wall but happier with a white rendered one. We obviously needed access and we all compromised and no one fell out over things.

this is just part and parcel of living with neighbours esp in terraced or semi detached houses. People do work that affect us. But at the end of the day it all swings in roundabouts and is not worth falling out over.

84wood · 01/06/2026 19:28

Don't normally post and haven't read the whole thread but they should have got a party wall agreement. I'd be speaking to my solicitor.

rwalker · 01/06/2026 19:27

cowandplough · 01/06/2026 19:16

Are they unreasonable requesting intrusive access? They should have considered this before the project got so far

Probably never considered it a problem and the neighbour wouldn’t have an issue
I’ve been on both sides of this and never had any problem
builders were literally there for a few hours then sand again to finish
wouldn’t even occur to me to object

Daftypants · 01/06/2026 19:23

I would allow them to do it but at a time and date that suits you with a definite time line and everything needs to be moved by them and put back exactly where it was in the same or better condition than it was
You need to be compensated somehow eg perhaps they’d pay for dog daycare for your dog for the days it’s being done ?

Tigger1895 · 01/06/2026 19:17

I’m late to the conversation but, my neighbour built an extension to within inches of the boundary wall. They did use a nice brick but because it’s so close the finish is atrocious. If they ask again and you agree to let them do it, be sure to insist it’s finished to an acceptable standard. What I look at is very messy and I wonder if they have problems in the future as a result of it not being finished correctly.