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To deny neighbour access to render extension?

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Amberlynnswashcloth · 31/05/2026 12:34

Semi detached neighbours are building extension within millimeters of the shared fence allowing no access from their own property for maintenance. Predictibly, they now want access to my garden to render the outside and to do this they would need to remove the fence and everything near the fence like my seating area, storage box, potted plants etc. I don't want to agree to this. There's the inconvenience of not being able to use our garden, DCs wont be able to play outside and I'd have to keep the dog in. My main issue is that the layout of the houses means the wall is literally right outside my kitchen/livingroom window which feels really close and intrusive and when people are working on it they are literally looking right at me sitting in my house. I don't want workman coming any closer into our space - we are trying to enjoy the nice weather and it's been quite disruptive as it is.

Anyone had experience with this? Its really stressing me out as I don't like to be deliberately obstructive but I strongly don't want to agree to this and feel it's not my problem to solve. I accept that refusal might mean forever looking at an ugly wall but I plan to grow something climbing to mask it.

They are waiting for an answer.

AIBU to say 'no'?

Edited to add that they don't want access right now - just at some point.

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Fizzybluewater · 31/05/2026 14:05

There are some really up their own arses replies on here.🙄

EarthSight · 31/05/2026 14:04

UniquePinkSwan · 31/05/2026 13:59

Stop being petty.

She's not being petty. I'd normally be relaxed & accommodating about this sort of thing, but they've shown no regard for her in the way they've built that extension and how close it is, and now they actually expect to inconvenience her in building or repairing it!!

EarthSight · 31/05/2026 14:02

People are just thick or entitled aren't they? It's just common sense not to build an extension in a way or size that you can't fix it from your own side if anything goes wrong. Even if the current neighbour is ok with it, there's no guarantee that future ones will be.

My main issue is that the layout of the houses means the wall is literally right outside my kitchen/livingroom window which feels really close and intrusive and when people are working on it they are literally looking right at me sitting in my house

They showed you no consideration when it comes to planning it, so don't feel obliged to show them consideration or do what they want now. They haven't helped matters by designing it as it is when they don't seem to have much a of a good or close relationship with you.

UniquePinkSwan · 31/05/2026 13:59

Stop being petty.

rwalker · 31/05/2026 13:57

honeylulu · 31/05/2026 13:37

The reasons for allowing it:
The wall you are looking at will look nicer.
Their extension will be better protected from weathering and therefore less chance of needing essential repairs in future.
Maintains neighbourly relations - you might need a favour from them in future.
The work shouldn't take long.

I would suggest that you draw up a licence agreement with the neighbour (or the contractor though I'd suggest the neighbour is better as contractor might just vanish) whereby they pay a weekly fee for access for the neighbour's contractor for each week the work is ongoing/incomplete. I'd suggest £200 per week which is what the local authority charges developers as a licence fee, for example, for scaffolding that goes over a public pavement.

Make it a term of the licence that the fence and items have to be put back into place and any damage made good at their cost.

It means there is an incentive for both neighbour and contractor to complete the works timeously and with good care.

If the licence is breached you have documentary evidence to show the small claims court if necessary, to seek specific performance and payment of any outstanding fees.

(I'm a solicitor BTW though you shouldn't need a solicitor to draw up the licence agreement. There are templates on the internet.)

Honestly if my neighbour did that to me don’t think I’d ever speak to them again
And leave it as an eyesore for them to look at

nothing wrong with photographing and laying down your expectations
id refuse of fence post to come out as there’s no need and insist floor covered and they tidy up
as long as post not disturbed fence should be fine

also you never know when you might need something of them
it’s deeply unpleasant living next door to a neighbour your at war with

Fizzybluewater · 31/05/2026 13:57

I would hate this but this seems more about the wall being closer than you would like rather than anything else.
Seating, pot plants, unless cemented to the ground, can soon be moved as can a fence. Surely your kid can manage for a few hours without playing in the garden?
I would be at home when it is being done to keep a close eye on things.
Take photos before and after so you have proof if anything is damaged.
If you say no it would be regarded as petty and may will damage relations with your neighbours. You don't have to be besties or even talk to them normally but a fall out might be bad long term.

Tableforjoan · 31/05/2026 13:56

Considering there is no punishment for lack of party wall agreement loads of people ops neighbours and mine just charge ahead no fucks given.

It just grow a clematis up some trellis to hide an ugly wall or plant a relatively small tree.

honeylulu · 31/05/2026 13:55

beigetriangle · 31/05/2026 13:48

a party wall agreement is needed if building work is on or near the boundary.
you need one.

Correct and even if this was true for the extension it's too late as it's already built. PWA does not have retrospective effect. Also not applicable for non construction work such as rendering/decorating in its own right as PWA is for protecting structural features and ground stability.

A licence for access is what you need.

zeebra · 31/05/2026 13:55

NoahDia · 31/05/2026 12:52

YABU and petty.

Rendering will take a matter of hours.

Entirely agree, The pettiness of some people is extraordinary. Yes, you would prefer them not to have the extension but they obviously have permission granted. The world would be an even sadder if people stamped their feet about every little perceived injustice. Get over yourself.

RollOnSunshine · 31/05/2026 13:53

Are they generally decent trustworthy people? Do you trust them to employ competent workers? If yes then let them have access but stipulate when you want it doing ie week or weekend.

If they are not trust worthy then say yes but only on the proviso that they give you an £xxx holding deposit in case the workers damage anything on your side. Again stipulate acceptable days for the work to be undertaken.

It's not a big job and not worth falling out over. But you are within your rights to set conditions.

Foundress · 31/05/2026 13:53

@RandomMess makes a good point about the type of render going on (if you do allow access) @Amberlynnswashcloth We had something called I think a ‘through’ render applied to our previous house. It was very expensive but never needed painting and required only minimal to no cleaning. You don’t want the neighbours repeatedly wanting access to paint or clean the wall. Good luck with it all.

TooOrangey · 31/05/2026 13:52

Our friends did this to be petty and now they look at an unrebdered block wall which is hideous.

I think it small minded to not agree. It’s nice to be nice.

Chilly80 · 31/05/2026 13:51

Say it can't be done till after summer.
Take photos of everything before it starts.
Get a contract written and signed by you them and the builder via a solicitor that they pay for.

beigetriangle · 31/05/2026 13:48

Amberlynnswashcloth · 31/05/2026 13:43

There isn't one. Just a building warrent. No planning permissions needed as it's within permitted development.

a party wall agreement is needed if building work is on or near the boundary.
you need one.

Passingthrough123 · 31/05/2026 13:45

Amberlynnswashcloth · 31/05/2026 13:39

The extension is being built within millimeters of the boundary fence but they have not needed to cross the boundary at all to construct it. All done from their side until now. They now want to take the fence down and come to my garden to render it.

Ah, got you. I would only agree if they and their builders put it in writing that they will make good the fence afterwards and that any damage to plants etc will be covered in full. They must also do it on a day and to a timescale that suits you.

If they baulk at that, they don't get to do it.

Amberlynnswashcloth · 31/05/2026 13:43

beigetriangle · 31/05/2026 13:36

what does the party wall agreement say?

There isn't one. Just a building warrent. No planning permissions needed as it's within permitted development.

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LlynTegid · 31/05/2026 13:42

Aside from any party wall agreement, I would insist on certain dates only. None of this 'when we feel like it' or wide time windows. So you can plan accordingly, and in a way you are helping them get some reliability from the builders.

Bubblefun70 · 31/05/2026 13:42

MeganM3 · 31/05/2026 12:49

Annoying but I’d probably let them, at the end of the summer once you’re no longer using the garden to sit out in during the day. You don’t need to inconvenience yourself too much, while still not being horribly awkward.

I think this is a good suggestion. Wait until Autumn/Winter months and maybe use a returnable deposit to ensure everything is put back the way it was?

HappyToSmile · 31/05/2026 13:41

I would let them, it isn't going to take ages, so isn't going to ruin your kids childhood for long! Maybe suggest dates when it would be convenient to be done. However, i would ensure you take photos of how it looks your side now and get it in writing that they will leave it as they found it and need to pay for any damages.

PrincessofWills · 31/05/2026 13:40

They may well need a party wall agreement @Amberlynnswashcloth

Amberlynnswashcloth · 31/05/2026 13:39

Passingthrough123 · 31/05/2026 13:30

@Amberlynnswashcloth Do you mean they've built the extension close to the boundary fence, rather than requesting that the fence was removed so they could build along the boundary line? If that's the case, do they plan to put the fence back in the same state after the rendering is completed?

The extension is being built within millimeters of the boundary fence but they have not needed to cross the boundary at all to construct it. All done from their side until now. They now want to take the fence down and come to my garden to render it.

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TubeScreamer · 31/05/2026 13:37

I would say no unless you have a watertight legal agreement in place.

a good friend of mine agreed to something similar. 4 years on she is still waiting for the fence to be reinstated and the plants she had to dig up and put in pots temporarily have all died.

honeylulu · 31/05/2026 13:37

The reasons for allowing it:
The wall you are looking at will look nicer.
Their extension will be better protected from weathering and therefore less chance of needing essential repairs in future.
Maintains neighbourly relations - you might need a favour from them in future.
The work shouldn't take long.

I would suggest that you draw up a licence agreement with the neighbour (or the contractor though I'd suggest the neighbour is better as contractor might just vanish) whereby they pay a weekly fee for access for the neighbour's contractor for each week the work is ongoing/incomplete. I'd suggest £200 per week which is what the local authority charges developers as a licence fee, for example, for scaffolding that goes over a public pavement.

Make it a term of the licence that the fence and items have to be put back into place and any damage made good at their cost.

It means there is an incentive for both neighbour and contractor to complete the works timeously and with good care.

If the licence is breached you have documentary evidence to show the small claims court if necessary, to seek specific performance and payment of any outstanding fees.

(I'm a solicitor BTW though you shouldn't need a solicitor to draw up the licence agreement. There are templates on the internet.)

beigetriangle · 31/05/2026 13:36

what does the party wall agreement say?

Witsend101 · 31/05/2026 13:35

It's interesting the amount of people on here highlighting that you are being unreasonable when it was wholly in the neighbours hands to come and discuss this at the planning stage. That would have protected good neighbourly relations. Alternatively, they could build it in brick and not inconvenience their neighbour at all.