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To consider cancelling my holiday because of the EES?

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idontwanttogoanymore · 30/05/2026 22:21

I just can’t cope with this stress. I will be travelling alone and I can’t afford (literally or mentally) to miss a flight because of this system.

I just don’t want to go. It’s looming over me. I did it in February going into Norway, but that makes no difference. You’re still in the queue for hours. I’m flying with Ryanair and they only open their bag drop 2 hours before, they’re now saying three hours to get through. So it’ll be literally impossible.

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LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 31/05/2026 06:13

dizzydizzydizzy · 31/05/2026 05:32

errghhhh ….. We obviously wouldn’t have this problem if we were still in the EU. But yes you can argue that it is the EU implementing it badly etc (quite possibly true).

Well we were never in Schengen. Does Ireland need to do it?

ChaToilLeam · 31/05/2026 05:54

Just don't go then. Plenty of people have shared their experience assured you it'll be fine, but if you would prefer to extrapolate from some Google bot, go right ahead.

Shoxfordian · 31/05/2026 05:49

You're over reacting if you cancel your holiday based on this op, plenty of people on here telling you they've travelled in and out of Europe and it was fine - maybe get some help with your anxiety

drunkelephant83 · 31/05/2026 05:47

You’re heartbroken you’re going to have to cancel? That’s a you problem, no one’s forcing you to cancel. Get a grip.

TinkyBella · 31/05/2026 05:46

You are sounding very unreasonable to me. I flew back from Italy last week and there are delays compared to before but everyone got on their flight.it sounds like you are looking for an excuse not to go.

dizzydizzydizzy · 31/05/2026 05:46

YABU, OP. It is worrying and incredibly annoying but please go on your holiday. When you arrive in Milan, get advice from the officials for your journey home.

You may be able to go through an e-gate on arrival and departure. I found in Switzerland I had to go to a manual gate but in Spain, the only option was actually an e gate.

dizzydizzydizzy · 31/05/2026 05:38

Iris2020 · 31/05/2026 05:13

This is nuts. I have been travelling alone with kids and honestly it's totally fine. I barely noticed a difference. The kids even found it fun.

I have been on 2 trips abroad since the new system was implemented.

Switzerland - chaos. Arrived 5 minutes after a flight from the USA. Queued up for an hour behind 500 Americans. That was despite there being some extra (temporary) passport control desks.

Spain - only non EU flight arrival (and the plane was only 2/3 full). It took an extra 5 minutes (if that) to get through.

Moonnstarz · 31/05/2026 05:37

When are you going?
The reports are currently worse because of it being half term and many people going abroad for the first time since the system has been implemented.
If you have already travelled abroad this year and had your fingerprints taken etc you will breeze through, especially as a single adult.
If you look deeper it's families who are most affected as they are having to queue twice, once for biometrics for themselves and then with children.
The media will always pick out the worse case examples.
Also from lots of discussion I have read some of the issues are people getting distracted by duty free once past security and not remembering they need to go though passport control.

dizzydizzydizzy · 31/05/2026 05:32

dewne · 30/05/2026 22:40

It's literally nothing to do with Brexit

errghhhh ….. We obviously wouldn’t have this problem if we were still in the EU. But yes you can argue that it is the EU implementing it badly etc (quite possibly true).

notinscotland · 31/05/2026 05:22

It's incorrect to say that this has nothing to do with Brexit; if the UK were still in the EU then UK passport holders would be in an identical situation to Irish passport holders, where Ireland itself is not part of the scheme but Irish passport holders are exempt because of EU citizens' rights. There would be bottlenecks anyway because of this system being rolled out for others and slowing things down overall (as people may remember there were for still-EU UKers when exit checks for Schengen first started).

However, even if the new requirement for fingerprinting (and perhaps human contact, depending on the airport) for non-EU citizens only adds five minutes per passenger that's substantial on a flight to/from the UK where once upon a time ~ 95% of the passengers would have had EU citizenship and now it will be more like 45%. It's not unreasonable to say that the OP MAY take significantly longer to clear immigration both entering and leaving Italy than would have been the case without Brexit depending on how well her airport (RyanAir use both Malpensa and Bergamo) is equipped to deal with the issue.

This isn't the fault of the current UK government, though. They have literally no say in any of this, but that itself is the fault of Cameron, May, and Johnson, not Starmer who literally does not have the power to simply rejoin the EU or even to join EFTA or Schengen.

In any case, OP: they'll take your bags off the plane if you fail to board, and if they do somehow get misrouted they'll reroute them to you; you're not expected to fly to where your bags are at your own expense! I'd contact your AirBNB and see if they can extend check in or leave a key for you in a lockbox and if not ask how early can you check in the morning and either stay overnight at the airport or have a cheap hotel in mind for a backup plan (but make sure you can check in late). For the return, use the RyanAir app to pre-check your bag and grab your paperwork from one of the kiosks at the airport ASAP - you may be able to drop your bag early if the conveyor's running for another flight. And if you do miss the return flight, remember that EU citizens rights still apply as RyanAir is domiciled in Ireland - ask for the paperwork to claim compensation if you're not offered it up front.

Meadowfinch · 31/05/2026 05:20

idontwanttogoanymore · 30/05/2026 22:32

It’s just heartbreaking. I’ve had this holiday planned for a year and now I can’t go because of fucking Brexit, which I’ve never agreed with. It’s maddening

That's not true OP. You're getting it out of proportion. The advice is to arrive at the airport 3 hrs before the flight. Yes there will be a queue but it'll be OK. Take a book. Distract yourself.

Don't give up on a holiday for no reason.

And anyway, they will be well practised by the time you go. May have resolved some of the issues or added extra staff.

CharlieSJ · 31/05/2026 05:14

idontwanttogoanymore · 30/05/2026 22:37

Milan. One of the worst affected airports.

I flew in and out of Milan last week, virtually no queues when entering or exiting, all very smooth. I have a UK passport. HTH.

supersonicginandtonic · 31/05/2026 05:13

I’m here in Spain at the moment, family of 7, 5 of them children. No issues at all on the way here. Flew with Ryanair, checked in bags 2 hours 30 minutes before our flight. Bags were there when we arrived.
No issues in Porto at Easter snd Amsterdam at the beginning of May.
if you’re so worried take just cabin luggage, plenty enough room for one person.

Iris2020 · 31/05/2026 05:13

This is nuts. I have been travelling alone with kids and honestly it's totally fine. I barely noticed a difference. The kids even found it fun.

Kulwinder54 · 31/05/2026 04:57

You are dramatising to make a political point. Get a life

whatsit84 · 31/05/2026 04:48

Think rationally OP - is Ryanair flying empty planes because everyone is stuck in the airport? As an aside it’s ridiculous though, waited two hours at Rotterdam port last week with whole families getting everyone out of the car for fingerprints!

mindutopia · 31/05/2026 04:41

I’ve done it twice, with children. Completely fine. Not to Norway, to Spain. No delays of any sort. Went from plane to in the taxi heading to the hotel in 15 minutes. Most recent time, it was the most efficient boarding experience I’ve ever had. Not like the 1 hour queues at passport control that I’ve had under the old system. I don’t travel with checked bags though. That’s always a nightmare. I travelled Ryanair both times.

suburberphobe · 31/05/2026 03:10

Sorry you feel this way OP.

Reminds me of that brilliant book "Feel the fear and
do it anyway".

Push through your fear, I'm sure you will love it once you're there.

adamduritzvocalchords · 31/05/2026 03:08

I flew to Venice 2 weeks ago. It took me 2 hours nearly to get through when we landed. My DD went through the electronic gate fine and had to just sit and wait. It was a pain but not the end of the world. Coming back it was much quicker

Lifesd · 31/05/2026 02:26

You are being ludicrous this really isn’t the problem you think it is.

HoppingPavlova · 31/05/2026 02:09

OP, had it not struck you that the planes are not flying around empty due to this with everyone missing flights. That just isn’t happening. And that you are having a severe overreaction?

Jane143 · 31/05/2026 02:09

You’re being ridiculous

Jane143 · 31/05/2026 02:00

idontwanttogoanymore · 30/05/2026 22:32

It’s official EU advice. It’s just been on sky news.

The news catastrophise everything. For views. Same as internet does

Nottslady · 31/05/2026 01:59

I flew through Milan this week with several friends, into malpensa on Friday 22nd and back out of bergamo to Stansted today, Saturday 30th at 5pm. Both ways it was very smooth, quick and no delays at all, lots of staff available to help if needed. Ryanair both ways.

Topseyt123 · 31/05/2026 01:55

I don't think I have ever read anything so totally ridiculous on here for a very long time.

You don't want to listen to reason and are determined to blame everything and everyone else. Particularly Keir Starmer.

What are you expecting? Would you like Keir Starmer to personally meet you at the airport and escort you through to the gate and onto your flight?

There's no good reason to cancel your holiday. However, you are are not listening to the measured advice that anyone has given you and are utterly convinced that you need to cancel. So just crack on and cancel, regret it big time and then never book to go away anywhere ever again!

None of this has anything to do with Brexit (I also voted remain), nor with Keir Starmer supporting Arsenal. Linking those to your perceived travel drama is quite a stretch, not to mention utterly spurious.

You need to stop this nonsense.

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