Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

AIBU to ask tenants to move before or after new baby?

319 replies

CatWithAPetDog · 30/05/2026 15:09

We are landlords and have a property that our son would like to move into at some point in the next year. Our current tenants have a toddler and have just told me that they are expecting another baby in November.

If you were the tenant, would you prefer to have to move out whilst pregnant or with a young baby. I know it’s not great timing for them either way, but which would you say would be easier? We can wait a while as long as my son is moved in this time next year, but then they would have a toddler and six month old baby, so it may be easier to do it sooner with just a toddler?

They’ve been good tenants so I would like to cause them the least stress possible.

Sorry forgot to make boring make sense

YABU - Get them to move before the new baby arrives

YANBU - Get them to move after the new baby arrives

OP posts:
YourPoliteTurtle · 30/05/2026 18:19

Unnecessaryletter · 30/05/2026 18:10

'Security of tenure' and 'home ownership' are different concepts, though. Owning a property gives you the asset. Security of tenure simply means not being forced to move frequently through no fault of your own. Many European countries have much stronger tenant protections than the UK while still having functioning rental markets...so it's clearly not true that the only options are either full ownership or precarious renting.

Edited

then landlords need more right and faster help to deal with bad tenants.

Security of tenure might work well with landlords like the Duke of Westminster, but it's just impossible for non-wealthy people. Not everybody can afford to keep properties and tenants, life happens, people need to sell.

No landlord protection, and no way to get rid of bad payers/ bad tenants is a terrible idea, and everybody loses out in the long term.

If the market was more flexible, tenants would find it easier to rent right now for a start.

Unnecessaryletter · 30/05/2026 18:15

PepsiBook · 30/05/2026 18:11

Ignore the jealousy people who are trying to put you down.
Why would you not want to help your own child?!
Say to your tenants exactly what you've said to us.
When we planned to move into our rented property we told our tenants we want to move within the next 6 months. Anytime during that period was fine and they told me it took a lot of the pressure off them to find somewhere.

Jealousy? What a crass pont of view.

Monty36 · 30/05/2026 18:12

The whole housing market is a mess. Years ago people could get Council housing. You could privately rent. And lenders would lend without overbearing scrutiny. They overlent once before and got their fingers burnt.
Now you have people refused a mortgage but paying a shed load ( sometimes more than a mortgage ) having to be in private rental. Because lenders won’t lend.
You have hardly any council housing as it has been sold off. A very stupid idea.
And people turfed out of private rentals put into one room in a hotel and hostels.
Builders build very few social housing properties.
And you have people who own rental properties galore. Whole streets of them.
We should do better for ourselves.

PepsiBook · 30/05/2026 18:11

Ignore the jealousy people who are trying to put you down.
Why would you not want to help your own child?!
Say to your tenants exactly what you've said to us.
When we planned to move into our rented property we told our tenants we want to move within the next 6 months. Anytime during that period was fine and they told me it took a lot of the pressure off them to find somewhere.

Unnecessaryletter · 30/05/2026 18:10

YourPoliteTurtle · 30/05/2026 18:05

you can't have it both ways and all transactions cannot be one-sided

You can't expect freedom and flexibility when it suits BUT long-term security depending on your mood.

Buy, rent, do what you want but each option has positive and negatives. Expecting to have basically home ownership and all the rights as a tenant, but none of the financial burden and commitments is not realistic, to stay polite.

'Security of tenure' and 'home ownership' are different concepts, though. Owning a property gives you the asset. Security of tenure simply means not being forced to move frequently through no fault of your own. Many European countries have much stronger tenant protections than the UK while still having functioning rental markets...so it's clearly not true that the only options are either full ownership or precarious renting.

mycarhasnoaircon · 30/05/2026 18:06

mumofoneAloneandwell · 30/05/2026 15:54

Abolish landlords.

How would that solve the housing crisis?

YourPoliteTurtle · 30/05/2026 18:05

Unnecessaryletter · 30/05/2026 17:56

OP is obviously well within her rights, and is being as considerate as she can be. A good landlord, obviously.

But it does illustrate that this is not a great system. We have a country where many need / prefer to rent, but that shouldn't deny them long-term security in a home. It being an private investment option doesn't feel right at all.

Edited

you can't have it both ways and all transactions cannot be one-sided

You can't expect freedom and flexibility when it suits BUT long-term security depending on your mood.

Buy, rent, do what you want but each option has positive and negatives. Expecting to have basically home ownership and all the rights as a tenant, but none of the financial burden and commitments is not realistic, to stay polite.

Unnecessaryletter · 30/05/2026 17:56

OP is obviously well within her rights, and is being as considerate as she can be. A good landlord, obviously.

But it does illustrate that this is not a great system. We have a country where many need / prefer to rent, but that shouldn't deny them long-term security in a home. It being an private investment option doesn't feel right at all.

Dollysleftnip · 30/05/2026 17:55

Runningswanker · 30/05/2026 17:30

Are you being deliberately obtuse? It's not affordable for many before having children.

Its not though

Pansykavalier · 30/05/2026 17:52

Do seek legal advice before you sign over the house to your son. A trust may possibly be a better option.

Datafan55 · 30/05/2026 17:51

Rachelshair · 30/05/2026 17:08

The OP is making money from the tenants though, they are paying rent. Her son won't be. No-one is asking her to give up income.

Assets then. People are telling her what to do with her assets.

Datafan55 · 30/05/2026 17:50

Rachelshair · 30/05/2026 16:41

I'd have my son living with me before I'd evict a family with a newborn and a toddler into a broken housing market. You could be sending them into homelessness. I just couldn't do that to someone.

And if they have another 5 babies, the house is tied up for 10 years, and someone will be along to argue that as the last one is still a toddler, they still get to stay.

YourPoliteTurtle · 30/05/2026 17:43

narnia2025 · 30/05/2026 17:40

No I have seen it

many times. People
who have to work hard for what they have are normally a lot more kinder and compassionate then people who have everything handed to them on a platter.

as the OP sounds more than kind and compassionate, sounds like they are from a hard working family with good values.

And my experience is different from yours, the most kind and generous people I've ever met come from a different world than mine, very wealthy but nothing to prove. Generous in cash (that they have) and more importantly time, which they could have spent selfishly.

GottaBeStrong · 30/05/2026 17:41

I moved with a 3.5 month old and it was hell. I'd much rather have moved while pregnant.

narnia2025 · 30/05/2026 17:40

YourPoliteTurtle · 30/05/2026 17:38

HOW can you possibly know who is entitled, and how "privileged" they are?

there is another thing giving your child a house they didn’t have to work at all for
the only difference is cash you know. And I think it's usually safer to buy a property than keeping cash in the bank doing nothing, personal choice.

You only sound jealous .You have no idea if they had family money, what kind of job and work and sacrifice they made to buy a property for their child, you have no idea if they lost a relative and got some money instead of having a parent. Or if they own 25 houses and just picked that for the son.

You know absolutely nothing. Neither do I , I only know they were savy and careful about their children to prepare for their future, which is good parenting.

Stop seeing tenant as victims and rentals as favours being done. It's just business.

No I have seen it

many times. People
who have to work hard for what they have are normally a lot more kinder and compassionate then people who have everything handed to them on a platter.

YourPoliteTurtle · 30/05/2026 17:38

narnia2025 · 30/05/2026 17:30

Because it is creates entitled, privileged people.

there is one things helping a child out (deposit etc) and there is another thing giving your child a house they didn’t have to work at all for and teaching them
it is ok to get that even at the expense of another family.

HOW can you possibly know who is entitled, and how "privileged" they are?

there is another thing giving your child a house they didn’t have to work at all for
the only difference is cash you know. And I think it's usually safer to buy a property than keeping cash in the bank doing nothing, personal choice.

You only sound jealous .You have no idea if they had family money, what kind of job and work and sacrifice they made to buy a property for their child, you have no idea if they lost a relative and got some money instead of having a parent. Or if they own 25 houses and just picked that for the son.

You know absolutely nothing. Neither do I , I only know they were savy and careful about their children to prepare for their future, which is good parenting.

Stop seeing tenant as victims and rentals as favours being done. It's just business.

Runningswanker · 30/05/2026 17:37

YourPoliteTurtle · 30/05/2026 17:23

that's why so many of us had to flat share and live very cheaply, and that's not recent. You have to be very privileged if you can afford the rent of a medium size flat/ house AND save for a deposit and have a life.

I did the same. I referred to 'couples' because the houses here aren't big enough to houseshare. They're tiny old terraces, straight onto the street, one small double room, one single, small living room and teeny kitchen usually. And they still rent for £950 a month. The larger houses are modern executive style homes that would be prohibitively expensive even for sharing. So they suit a couple or at a pinch two people sharing and that's still going to be difficult to raise deposits whilst paying living costs and earning minimum wage. Most the work locally is factory, retail/hospitality or childcare. Commuting would require the extra costs of a car or an expensive rail ticket.
One of the reasons it's gone up so much here is because of people moving from London because the north was so cheap!

narnia2025 · 30/05/2026 17:36

T1mesAreHardForDreamers · 30/05/2026 17:33

I agree with most of your post but where I live in the South East, we have the opposite problem re renting demographic.

The market is so competitive that landlords can and frequently do rent out properties to single people. Many houses are listed as "professionals only" which has become code for childless applicants.

These smaller, younger families are competing for the same properties (small 2 beds) as these people who are saving lots of money by renting outside of but very close to London. Many family sized homes here have also been turned into HMOs for local workers and for London commuters.

I know it's not like this everywhere, but it really hurts to see people (not you! other posters on this thread) be so oblivious to how hard it is in some areas of the UK. And asking everyone to move to cheaper areas isn't realistic as people rely on family ties for support, and demand would shift elsewhere anyway.

I’m also in the south east.

the amount of houses that had either professionals only of even ideal for students was massive. We frequently got turned down and I think the biggest reason was because we had young children as we met every other bit of the croteria

neverbeenskiing · 30/05/2026 17:33

Allseeingallknowing · 30/05/2026 17:08

If that were the case, Landlords would never get their properties back, and they would have no rights!

That seems to be exactly what some posters think should happen.

T1mesAreHardForDreamers · 30/05/2026 17:33

Runningswanker · 30/05/2026 17:11

I do understand how difficult it is to rent, the area where I work rents have increased massively and my younger colleagues are signing contracts without even viewing them to get somewhere. And in my town people are turning to buddying up as housemates whereas 5 years ago it was still affordable for a couple on minimum wage to get a basic house (many here are 2 bed terraces with a yard or shared garden, basic starter homes) Having a LL who is aware of that and willing to help the tenant is a massive bonus. Presumably their son is also affected by the limited housing market and it is reasonable for them to help him get somewhere to live. Why is he less deserving of a home because he doesn't have children? It would actually be harder for him to find somewhere then the family, no one wants to rent to single people especially single men.

It used to be difficult to get a guarantor - it ruled me out in the past when it was typically dependent on having parents who could pay for you - but the fact that renting is so tricky means it's actually far easier now. Instead of needing a rich family you pay a fee to a company who act as the guarantor for you. It's an extra cost but it is accessible, as I said it's basically buying an insurance policy.

I agree with most of your post but where I live in the South East, we have the opposite problem re renting demographic.

The market is so competitive that landlords can and frequently do rent out properties to single people. Many houses are listed as "professionals only" which has become code for childless applicants.

These smaller, younger families are competing for the same properties (small 2 beds) as these people who are saving lots of money by renting outside of but very close to London. Many family sized homes here have also been turned into HMOs for local workers and for London commuters.

I know it's not like this everywhere, but it really hurts to see people (not you! other posters on this thread) be so oblivious to how hard it is in some areas of the UK. And asking everyone to move to cheaper areas isn't realistic as people rely on family ties for support, and demand would shift elsewhere anyway.

ididabigfatsmelly · 30/05/2026 17:31

Keep us posted

narnia2025 · 30/05/2026 17:30

YourPoliteTurtle · 30/05/2026 17:19

you are looking at it the wrong way, the family was able to rent until the son would move into HIS property. (or his parents property)

No one is "chucking out" anyone.

why are you so angry about the "rent free"? are you also angry when a family has a place in a convenient city (like central London) and the kids can stay there when they go to uni and start working? As opposed to people who chose to live in the sticks so kids had to move to find education and a job?

Where does it stop. People have different opportunities and help, that's life.

Because it is creates entitled, privileged people.

there is one things helping a child out (deposit etc) and there is another thing giving your child a house they didn’t have to work at all for and teaching them
it is ok to get that even at the expense of another family.

Runningswanker · 30/05/2026 17:30

Dollysleftnip · 30/05/2026 17:25

Hence you secure your housing before having children.
It can only get worse afterwards

Are you being deliberately obtuse? It's not affordable for many before having children.

NoWordForFluffy · 30/05/2026 17:28

Nearly50omg · 30/05/2026 17:27

The landlords son wants to move in THIS year not in a year

Not true: We are landlords and have a property that our son would like to move into at some point in the next year.

At some point in the next year.

Nearly50omg · 30/05/2026 17:27

andnowwhatdowedo · 30/05/2026 15:13

Warn them now they have max a year to move out and let them decide.

The landlords son wants to move in THIS year not in a year

Swipe left for the next trending thread