To think there is no such thing as a “teen mum name”

Okay

I didn't give an opinion on the name. I merely said that it's an ordinary classless name, as it has always been.

I don’t think it is no. Great that you do. Are you called Bartholomew?

What's in my opinion? Is it not a perfectly ordinary classless name, like it has always been?

A name can act as a social marker !

In your opinion. Nothing wrong with it, would just rather be called Mckenzie

What's wrong with Bartholomew? It's a perfectly ordinary name classless name.

in fairness, MN is mainly full of people who cannot accept that others have a different opinion let alone a different experience 😂

Cripes, mumsnet is full of judgemental snobs, with some racism and classism thrown in. Must be wonderful to be perfect !

This makes no sense. Whichever term you use, it’s classist and judgemental.

Oh dear. I was a teen mum (and a geriatric mum) and have a super posh name! All my children have quite “classic” names - think along the lines of Arthur and George. I wouldn’t have chosen to be a teen mum, but was sadly out of time to make a choice. Blame poor education in the 90’s

I don't think being a teen mum is something to aspire to or be proud of, and too many teen mums (not ALL teen mums) but too many prove it by not being independent, financially or else

but let's be honest, on the name forum, some posters are completely bonkers and have the strangest ideas about ANY name 😂.

I wouldn't take that personally.

Being a teen mum carries huge stigma. In deprived communities it's a way out of the family home and into a council house, benefits the lot. Saying that while some names are associated with lower socio economic class the majority cross classes. Charlotte or Lottie can be council estate or palace. Same for Sienna, William and so on. Basically teen mum name is nonsense.

Adding that middle and upper classes less likely to keep teenage pregnancy as family expects good career or marriage, which a baby would get in the way of. In poorer populations, teenage pregnancy is a way to better yourself from your current situation in better off populations it prevents teenage girls from pursuing a good career or advantageous marriage match.

It is, as many have said already, backdoor snobbery of an unpleasant kind.

That doesn’t change the fact that all things being equal its not a great idea to have a child when you are yourself still a child and I personally am in favour of discouraging teenagers to have children.

So by this reckoning, Kate Middleton will be a granny in 4-5 years' time. My friend Charlotte just had a baby, she is 30. Charlotte is a fabulous name.

@CieloElmers My cousin's son has McKenzie as his middle name, because that is her maiden name.

Theu don't actually mean teen mum. They mean poor and uneducated.

It's the age old stereotype that those who are well off don't tend to have unusual names because their parents are thinking of their future of becoming professionals. So certain names fit a certain social classes because of media and societal trends.

So your "chavvy" names = lower class, uneducated = teen mum (because clearly they didn't have decent parents in the commentere eyes)

Your usual names = could be any class, responsible parents who think about your future = good girl would never make a mistake.

"Pretentious" names = we have enough money that we will never have to worry about our children's futures. = being teen mum doesn't even matter.

It's just classism and a roundabout way if letting others know that they aren't one of those "povvos".

Who deserves the judgement?

The only teen mum I know is called Jane and she had a baby Winifred!

As an aside I'm happy that the rate of teenage motherhood continues to decline.

I think on MN a lot of names are deemed “chavvy” “common” “teen mum” some of the “posh” names suggested on the baby board are ridiculous (imo). I think I’d rather be called Mckenzie than Bartholomew or Artemis. I imagine a lot of people don’t give a shit what other people call their kids.

I know a very middle class well of family, privately educated all have degrees etc the daughter had a baby at 30 and called her Lulabella-Rose

I imagine if some mumsnetters heard that in the wild they’d think she’s been dragged up drinking lambrini from a baby bottle till they were 7.

Some teenagers plan pregnancy too.
I think that there is alot of negative stereotyping of teenage single mums.
As always, there will always be people who fulfil stereotypes and fuel people's prejudices.

Of course the name doesn’t matter! Friends DD accidentally became a mum at 18 - she has a trad ‘royal’ name. Family are very well off and friend is thoroughly enjoying being a young grandma and they’re financially supporting the DD.
I also have a couple of completely MC friends who has their kids very young, and they have very posh/ MC names themselves. I sort of evy them as they are done with child rearing in their early 40s while the rest of us are dealing with stroppy teens and GCSEs right now!

Oh I agree. They mean “sounds like a poor person’s name”. Obviously that is an awful thing to say out loud, so they dance around it, rather than the rather more obvious solution of just not saying it.