To think there is no such thing as a “teen mum name”

Chavi means child in romani.

I am sure I read that 18 to 25 are the years that nature has designed as the best fertile years of a human woman's life to give birth, possibly up to 30, and possibly a little earlier. Much later and the outcomes for a healthy child fall dramatically.

Is there any data which, factoring out abortion and environmental factors which prove or disprove this?

As much as we might try to pretend otherwise there are just some names that teen mums are more likely to have and to give to their children, and people judge even if they don’t admit it. It’s not right, and obviously doesn’t apply to everyone, but there you go.
For what it’s worth, the same is also true of a certain demographic of parents- I wont attach a class judgement to this- those who are well off, possibly older, breast feeds their 3 and 5 year olds, etc who is more likely to call their children Tarquin or Theodore.

But names work differently across different cultures. Shannon was never used in Ireland, for instance (I mean, for Irish people, it’s as much an airport and a seriously ugly industrial zone as a river) until it filtered back via Irish-Americans giving their children placenames from a country they’ve never lived in. (And even then, people were using it because it sounded ‘modern’ and ‘American’, rather than because they were paying tribute to a river goddess. It was as much ‘Shannen’ [sic] Doherty as anything.)

See also the giant mistake that is ‘Caitlin-pronounced-Kate-Lynn’ which is a diaspora mispronunciation of Cáitlin, pronounced Coytleen or Coytchleen.

’Connor’ has been described on this thread as a ‘teen dad name’ and an example of ‘surname names’ but in Ireland, spelled correctly as ‘Conor’ , it’s a standard, safe classic like James or Edward in England.

It technically means “gypsy”, which is why people don’t think it is acceptable - describing any poor behaviour as “gypsy-like” is clearly racist, and “chavvy” is just an oblique way of saying the same thing.

”Tacky” gets the point across without bringing gypsies/travellers into it.

Whilst you are strictly speaking correct, anyone can use any name and bad names are not the exclusive copyright of teenage mums, it is the case that girls from certain backgrounds are more likely to become teenage mums and choose names accordingly. Of the teenage and young mums I have known, their names have been

• Tianna
• Shaylee (pretty sure this one is just made up)
• Billie-Jane

All awful in my opinion.

“Shannon” is considered a “chav name” in the UK? In the US, you’d probably expect someone named Shannon to be Gen X or millennial with Irish ancestry, but there wouldn’t be any class connotations.

Saying someone has a “teen mum name” sounds rude and snobby to me.

They can have normal names and also be perfectly good parents! Whilst I wouldn’t necessarily endorse teenage pregnancy (I had mine at 37 and 39 and it’s bloody hard work 😂) it doesn’t change the fact that mothers in their 30s and 40s can be totally shit, and teen mothers can be much much better. Any person who says these kind of judgmental and obnoxious comments is, as pp said, not remotely worth listening to

I thought ‘teen mum name’ meant ‘the kind of name a teenage girl would give a baby’.
i recently found my teen diaries in my mum’s attic and we all laughed at the list of names I’d jotted down for a ‘future baby name’ list. Lots of Ks instead of C’s, trendy/popular names, random spellings.
Teenage girls are, by nature, immature and so would be expected to name their babies in a way that more mature women may not. Of course that’s not universal so you don’t need to post to tell me that you named your baby William aged 14 - I’m talking population levels only.

Can we have some teen dad names?

Olly
Kayden
Ryan

I work in a teen mum adjacent field and I’d say the names I come across the most are
Kayleigh
Ashleigh
Shannon
Charlotte
Chloe
Amber
Katie
Kerry

I think the idea middle and upper classes are less likely to be teen mums is outdated. In all honesty no matter your class it’s massively frowned upon now and abortion encouraged. That’s why there are a lot less teenage pregnancies than thirty years ago. Some of us just didn’t want abortions and you cannot force anyone to have an abortion.

I completely get that some teen mums aren’t the best at choosing names. Personally I got the cringy name list making out of the way when I was 10-13 so by the time I had mine at 16 I went with a normal name.

But these people are talking about the names of the actual teen mums themselves and not the names they choose for their children

One thing I’ve noticed on the name board is things like “sounds like the name of a girl who becomes a teen mum” usually used to criticise the incorrectly spelt or names posters don’t consider classy.

I had my children at 16 and 18 and my name is Charlotte. One of my closest friends was also a teen mum and her name is Shannon.

Teen mums have normal names!

nothing in theory but gets shortened to Bart which rhymes with fart. I know of a carter who was teased as carter the farter