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OneOfTheseNights · 30/05/2026 03:51

Hi, some friends have emigrated from a non European country to Ireland.

They moved there with two young dc, and are wondering whether to try to get their dc Irish passports.

I know next to nothing of how they go about this, and I’m sure they are more than capable.

i just wondered, if they are applying for passports for their dc, would they benefit more from an Irish passport, or if possible, would it be better to apply for a U.K. passport ?

🙏🏻

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GhoulWithADragonTattoo · 30/05/2026 11:40

If they eligible i definitely for Irish passport. You have access to whole the EU and can move there…

Thechaseison71 · 30/05/2026 11:37

SomeOtherUser · 30/05/2026 08:56

So aside from granting easy access to 26 of the closest countries, there is no difference? So quite a big difference then?

You obviously didn't read properly I said IN THE REST of the world it makes no difference

Fast800goingforit · 30/05/2026 11:37

DP has an Irish passport as his mum was Irish. He had issues obtaining a copy of her birth certificate because it was in Irish and the record office couldn't find her under the English name she was known by. Luckily a family member in Ireland was able to physically go there are help identify the correct record. Ironically only the younger generations of the family speak Irish, his mother never did.

When we travel together he either has to hang around waiting for me and other family members after passport control or, when we get home, has a human border control agent check his passport and I get through quicker via the machines.

Clavinova · 30/05/2026 11:37

SlightlyAjar · 30/05/2026 11:27

Bluntly, in many parts of the world, if you were kidnapped, having an Irish passport rather than one that retains unpleasant colonial connotations for many might mean the difference between being released or shot.

The UK has twice as many embassies across the globe for non-terrorist related travel problems.

Thechaseison71 · 30/05/2026 11:34

Statsquestion1 · 30/05/2026 08:30

It makes quite a difference in a lot of countries tbh due to Irelands neutrality/political status and other things like US Preclearence in Irish airports. Colombia is visa free if you have an Irish passport.

So that's 2 countries. What are the others. I've got british and NZ passport. Brother had Irish passport. He's certainly not gained any advantage in Thailand. Japan Mexico etc that I can see

Mclaren10 · 30/05/2026 11:32

Depends what's important to them.

The Irish passport is the top of the list worldwide for freedom of travel:
Countries without visas 149

https://immigrantinvest.com/passport-index/rating/travel-freedom/

UK passport has a few less countries that don't require visas, but are also limited to 90 day stays in some. That's mostly in the EU countries I think, whereas Irish passports don't have that limit.

BarbBarbbarb · 30/05/2026 11:30

OneOfTheseNights · 30/05/2026 07:00

I do know that one of the couples great grandparent was Irish.
I don’t think they have the birth certificate of that ancestor, so could that be recovered from somewhere?

That’s too far back BUT if they are legally in Ireland and working there etc and stay 5+ years then the children should be able to get Irish citizenship eventually.

SlightlyAjar · 30/05/2026 11:27

Goodadvice1980 · 30/05/2026 11:18

An Irish passport is often more beneficial not just for EU benefits. Some countries charge less for visas with an Irish passport.

I worked with a guy who had an ancestral Irish passport. He found it better for travel and did go to some far flung places. Although I did point out if he was kidnapped, being on a non-UK passport would probably mean the government and the SAS wouldn’t try to rescue him 😂

Bluntly, in many parts of the world, if you were kidnapped, having an Irish passport rather than one that retains unpleasant colonial connotations for many might mean the difference between being released or shot.

BarbBarbbarb · 30/05/2026 11:27

OneOfTheseNights · 30/05/2026 03:51

Hi, some friends have emigrated from a non European country to Ireland.

They moved there with two young dc, and are wondering whether to try to get their dc Irish passports.

I know next to nothing of how they go about this, and I’m sure they are more than capable.

i just wondered, if they are applying for passports for their dc, would they benefit more from an Irish passport, or if possible, would it be better to apply for a U.K. passport ?

🙏🏻

Irish - if eligible but the children would need a born in Ireland grandparent or parent OR to go and live there for several years and go through the residency route.

Irish of the easiest passports to travel on AND still in the EU so none of the going through the new systems that are in place for UK passports.
Plus Irish and U.K. citizens are treated equally in each others countries which predates thenEU etc so working rights, healthcare, voting etc is equal. A Brit can go to Ireland and be treated the same as an Irish citizen and vice Versa.

Fast800goingforit · 30/05/2026 11:26

OneOfTheseNights · 30/05/2026 07:00

I do know that one of the couples great grandparent was Irish.
I don’t think they have the birth certificate of that ancestor, so could that be recovered from somewhere?

It needs to be a parent or a grandparent is/was Irish to have the automatic right to an Irish passport and then you have to provide the evidence.

Yetanotherone12 · 30/05/2026 11:25

As for o/p’a friends and children, they would have to naturalise- be living there for 5 years then apply for citizenship.

if they naturalise NI that may mean they can apply for both Irish and uk passports.

KilkennyCats · 30/05/2026 11:23

It diesn’t sound as though they’re eligible for either?

Yetanotherone12 · 30/05/2026 11:23

Bushmillsbabe · 30/05/2026 08:21

That's not going to get them an Irish passport, it's 2 generations too many I think

DH's mum is Irish, so he and our girls can get Irish passports. But our girls future children won't be able too.

Yes, they will.

the condition of Irish citizenship is one parent must be a citizen at the time of your birth.

so your dh was automatically a citizen of his mum was born in Ireland or had a FBR. Your children are now Irish citizens having registered their birth abroad.

any children will have an Irish citizen parent, so can apply to the FBR for their own citizenship.

as long as offspring register on the FBR before their own children are born the next generation is also entitled to citizenship.

where it fails is when a parent doesn’t FBR before the birth.

Nevermind31 · 30/05/2026 11:22

If they are immigrating from a non European country to Ireland…. Why would they be able to apply for a UK passport???? Where does the UK come into it?

Goodadvice1980 · 30/05/2026 11:18

An Irish passport is often more beneficial not just for EU benefits. Some countries charge less for visas with an Irish passport.

I worked with a guy who had an ancestral Irish passport. He found it better for travel and did go to some far flung places. Although I did point out if he was kidnapped, being on a non-UK passport would probably mean the government and the SAS wouldn’t try to rescue him 😂

Thechaseison71 · 30/05/2026 10:36

Speak for yourself. I'm far more likely e( and do) go to Asia rather than Europe

Newlittlerescue · 30/05/2026 10:31

Boxoffrogs21 · 30/05/2026 09:13

No, because she is automatically a citizen because her parent is and she already has a passport to prove it.

Edited to add: she claimed her citizenship when you applied for a passport - she claimed it because her parent was born on the island of Ireland. It’s only if you’re another generation removed (grandparent born on the island) that you need a foreign birth registration.

Edited

Thank you - this makes sense! So does that mean all her future descendents (her Grandchildren etc) will have Irish citizenship as long as they continue to claim it (through getting a passport) with no breaks in the chain?

gingercat02 · 30/05/2026 10:01

Ace56 · 30/05/2026 08:55

Yes, it does.

Yes IF your parent was an Irish citizen when you were born, not moved there and gained citizenship while you were alive.
A parent or grandparent born on the island of Ireland (so including NI, for clarity) allows you to carry an Irish passport.

Chattanoogachoo · 30/05/2026 09:44

Living in NI I'm entitled to both passports but have always held a British one.On my last group travel the Irish passport holders did seem to have an easier journey through the airport so maybe I should hold both.

MrsMabelThorpe · 30/05/2026 09:38

Mumsntfan1 · 30/05/2026 09:20

No, they have a parent who is Irish by desent not birth in Ireland.

https://www.ireland.ie/en/dfa/citizenship/born-abroad/ says you can if your parent was a citizen at the time of your birth.

SlightlyAjar · 30/05/2026 09:35

Dolphinnoises · 30/05/2026 07:27

That won’t help them sadly - unless anyone since was born on the island of Ireland. I have Irish great grandparents on both sides. My parents could get passports but that’s as far back as it goes.

There’s nothing ‘sad’ bout not being able to claim a passport because you don’t meet the issuing country’s criteria.

Abhannmor · 30/05/2026 09:32

Mumsntfan1 · 30/05/2026 09:20

No, they have a parent who is Irish by desent not birth in Ireland.

You can get a passport if one gp is an Irish citizen. Check out Foreign Birth Registration.

Abhannmor · 30/05/2026 09:30

Are they living in Northern Ireland? Otherwise I'm not sure how they go about applying for UK passports. To qualify for Irish passport you must have at least five years continuing residency. You must show some documentation to this effect. Plus a couple of references from people who know you iirc. There was a fee of € 1100 last time I checked. I know a guy who was born in England but grew up here, so he has way more than five years residency. But he can't afford the fee. Since Brexit he has regarded himself as a stateless person.

Life used to be so simple. My first Irish passport was £1.50. That dates me ....

parkezvous · 30/05/2026 09:21

DH is Irish and DC have passports. Their travelling life is so much better!

Mumsntfan1 · 30/05/2026 09:20

MrsMabelThorpe · 30/05/2026 08:30

If your daughters get Irish passports (ie become Irish citizens!) before they have children, aren't those children then entitled as they have an Irish parent?

No, they have a parent who is Irish by desent not birth in Ireland.

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