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OneOfTheseNights · 30/05/2026 03:51

Hi, some friends have emigrated from a non European country to Ireland.

They moved there with two young dc, and are wondering whether to try to get their dc Irish passports.

I know next to nothing of how they go about this, and I’m sure they are more than capable.

i just wondered, if they are applying for passports for their dc, would they benefit more from an Irish passport, or if possible, would it be better to apply for a U.K. passport ?

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Clavinova · 02/06/2026 19:49

Statsquestion1 · 30/05/2026 15:57

Those with Irish passports get consular/embassy assistance from the Embassy of any other EU country. So they are protected in many ways. In fact, I used to live in a country abroad that was non-eu and it had no Irish embassy, funnily enough I was provided assistance from the British embassy. So it’s a win win.

I didn't know that. Only France and Germany have a similar number of embassies to the UK, all of the other EU countries have way fewer. Typical that UK passport holders were paying to assist a whole load of people from other EU countries.

coolcahuna · 31/05/2026 11:42

MrsMabelThorpe · 30/05/2026 08:30

If your daughters get Irish passports (ie become Irish citizens!) before they have children, aren't those children then entitled as they have an Irish parent?

Yes I thought this was the case I applying for my sons now (my mum is irish) and I think their future kids can as long as they have rhe citizenship before they have kids.

Yetanotherone12 · 31/05/2026 11:36

Flatandhappy · 30/05/2026 23:29

Lots of misinformation here. Having an Irish passport in itself doesn’t mean you can pass it on to your kids. No further back than a grandparent needs to have actually been born in Ireland. My grandchildren can get Irish passports because I was born in Ireland, they don’t get it because their father has one.

Incorrect. They do get it because their father has one. He has it because you were born in Ireland.

to qualify for Irish citizenship, and therefore a passport, one of your parents must be an Irish citizen at the time of your birth.

nothing to do with grandparents. That’s only talked about because if you have a grandparent born in Ireland, your parent is an automatic citizen so you have an Irish citizen parent. No paperwork, they don’t need to even hold a passport.

once you get past that generation if your Irish citizen parent was not born in Ireland, you need to apply to the FBR to register being born to an Irish citizen who was not born in Ireland. It’s a fair amount of paperwork and you need to have the knowledge that you need to do it. Once that is done, you are an Irish citizen, so your kids can then register on the FBR…

so most people, like you, assume you need a grandparent and don’t realise FBR can be passed down indefinitely, as long as each generation registers on the FBR before their own children are born.

Yetanotherone12 · 31/05/2026 11:25

MeAndStuart1981 · 31/05/2026 08:44

If they have emigrated to Ireland, tell them to apply for an Irish one. They will not be entitled to a UK passport.

Unless they are in NI.

trikonasanallama · 31/05/2026 09:58

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 31/05/2026 09:04

This not fully correct. My DDad was born in Ireland so I am automatically a citizen even though I live in the UK. I am registering my DC on the Foreign Births Register so they will get citizenship.
Once my DC are registered (hopefully next month currently an 11 month processing time) then they will be able to register any children they have in the future on the FBR too and pass on their citizenship to them. This only works if someone is on the FBR before they have children i.e. they have claimed citizenship prior to having children. You can’t pass on a citizenship you didn’t hold at the time of birth because you hadn’t yet claimed it.

If you look at the Irish citizenship application site one option is that your parent is on the FBR. You can pass Irish citizenship down indefinitely provided you register on the FBR before having children.

Yep.

Parent born on the island of Ireland - citizen
Grandparent born on the i of I - eligible for FBR.
Parent on FBR at time of birth - eligible for FBR.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 31/05/2026 09:04

Flatandhappy · 30/05/2026 23:29

Lots of misinformation here. Having an Irish passport in itself doesn’t mean you can pass it on to your kids. No further back than a grandparent needs to have actually been born in Ireland. My grandchildren can get Irish passports because I was born in Ireland, they don’t get it because their father has one.

This not fully correct. My DDad was born in Ireland so I am automatically a citizen even though I live in the UK. I am registering my DC on the Foreign Births Register so they will get citizenship.
Once my DC are registered (hopefully next month currently an 11 month processing time) then they will be able to register any children they have in the future on the FBR too and pass on their citizenship to them. This only works if someone is on the FBR before they have children i.e. they have claimed citizenship prior to having children. You can’t pass on a citizenship you didn’t hold at the time of birth because you hadn’t yet claimed it.

If you look at the Irish citizenship application site one option is that your parent is on the FBR. You can pass Irish citizenship down indefinitely provided you register on the FBR before having children.

Genevieva · 31/05/2026 08:55

YourGiddyGreyHelper · 31/05/2026 05:43

No. Birth records were not affected by that fire.

Oh interesting. Thank you. I might do a hunt myself then, as, like a lot of people, I have an Irish granny. But she moved to Australia for a few years as a baby, then came back to England as her father signed up to fight in WW1.

MeAndStuart1981 · 31/05/2026 08:44

If they have emigrated to Ireland, tell them to apply for an Irish one. They will not be entitled to a UK passport.

BarbBarbbarb · 31/05/2026 07:56

SquirrelGG · 31/05/2026 02:36

It's really not that easy and can cost a lot of money. You don't just arrive and get the right to a passport!!

No one is saying it is! But the world is full of people born in on country and living a life in another.

YourGiddyGreyHelper · 31/05/2026 05:43

Genevieva · 30/05/2026 16:04

I think a lot of old birth records were destroyed in a fire in Dublin a bit over 100 years ago.

No. Birth records were not affected by that fire.

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 31/05/2026 05:26

An Irish /eu passport allows you to live and work in more countries than a uk one.

but why would they be able to get a uk one?

if they have Irish citizenship then it’s probably good to get a passport incase they introduce a rule like the uk did requiring uk citizens to enter the uk on British (or Irish) passports.

Passwordsaremynemesis · 31/05/2026 03:59

I’ve got both (and an Aussie one). As others have pointed out the Irish passport is better than the UK one since Brexit. But you can’t just rock up and get either one, you have to be entitled to it.

RedTagAlan · 31/05/2026 03:41

KilkennyCats · 31/05/2026 00:07

I’m flabbergasted at someone rocking up to Ireland from a non eu country and thinking their only problem with getting a passport is choosing between an Irish or an English one Confused

No such thing as an English passport.

And the UK is a non EU country.

SquirrelGG · 31/05/2026 02:36

BarbBarbbarb · 30/05/2026 15:50

Are you new to the concept of immigration???

It's really not that easy and can cost a lot of money. You don't just arrive and get the right to a passport!!

MomOfTwoGirls2 · 31/05/2026 01:16

If they immigrated to Ireland (presumably legally), they can apply for Irish after 5 years

Per Google
To become an Irish citizen through naturalisation, you typically need to live in Ireland legally for 5 years (60 months) out of the last 9 years

If non European, and living in Ireland, in what way would they be entitled to UK passport?

fluffydoglove · 31/05/2026 00:27

OneOfTheseNights · 30/05/2026 07:00

I do know that one of the couples great grandparent was Irish.
I don’t think they have the birth certificate of that ancestor, so could that be recovered from somewhere?

A great grandparent is not going to get them anywhere.. I have an Irish passport because my parents are Irish, my ds has Irish grandparents therefore he is entitled to an Irish passport but we are in the process of waiting for his Irish citizenship through the foreign birth register it appears to take quite a while.

ThisIsMy · 31/05/2026 00:13

SlightlyAjar · 30/05/2026 15:42

I’ve lost track of the number of entitled Brits I’ve encountered who are frequently verbally anti-Irish, upfront about voting for Brexit, and then in the next moment pride themselves on their cleverness about getting an Irish passport by descent. Such people have usually never been to Ireland, are vaguely ashamed of their Irish heritage, and don’t know the first thing about the country. On the positive side, they’re highly unlikely to trouble us with their actual presence.

The reason you can claim Irish citizenship by descent is that Ireland takes its diaspora seriously, as a country whose former colonial exploitation caused grinding poverty and famine, and caused mass emigration. Lots of Irish people didn’t have a choice about leaving Ireland. Ireland takes its duty to those people’s children and grandchildren seriously. Even when they’re Brexitty wankers.

Agree.

And they throw an absolute britfit when it’s pointed out.

suki1964 · 31/05/2026 00:10

They need to become Irish citizens to get an Irish passport

In the North of Ireland we can carry both , without having to find any ancestory and my Neice and Nephew, who are grandchildren of Irish Grandparents , keep all their passports up to date - UK, Australian and Irish

When they come over to Europe they travel on their Irish passports so there's no visas or set amount of time to stay

Unless they are going to be frequent visitors to the EU , requiring 30 day visits in a rolling 90 days , there's no real need

KilkennyCats · 31/05/2026 00:07

I’m flabbergasted at someone rocking up to Ireland from a non eu country and thinking their only problem with getting a passport is choosing between an Irish or an English one Confused

booksunderthebed · 31/05/2026 00:00

as to getting Irish citizenship, you can aquire this once you have lived in Ireland for 5 years. (I think). I just applied after living here for over 20 years, and it was quite straighforward to apply. (although easier for EU/UK citizens than people from other countries)

booksunderthebed · 30/05/2026 23:58

Goodadvice1980 · 30/05/2026 11:18

An Irish passport is often more beneficial not just for EU benefits. Some countries charge less for visas with an Irish passport.

I worked with a guy who had an ancestral Irish passport. He found it better for travel and did go to some far flung places. Although I did point out if he was kidnapped, being on a non-UK passport would probably mean the government and the SAS wouldn’t try to rescue him 😂

Student visas to the USA are cheaper with a UK passport than an Irish passport.

Gealach · 30/05/2026 23:44

Silvercoconut · 30/05/2026 16:56

If a uk citizen with a British passport has lived in Ireland for 20 years and wishes to apply for an Irish passport, would they have to renounce their British citizenship and passport?

No not at all. It is possible to hold dual citizenship. I have both passports as I was born in Northern Ireland. At the moment the Irish passport has the edge but who knows what will happen in the future.
@Clavinova Irish passport holders can claim assistance at any EU embassy.

Itsanewdawnitsanewdayitsanewlife4me · 30/05/2026 23:43

Irish is the stronger passport without doubt OP so if they have a way of getting this then it will definitely stand to them more than a British one.

Flatandhappy · 30/05/2026 23:29

Lots of misinformation here. Having an Irish passport in itself doesn’t mean you can pass it on to your kids. No further back than a grandparent needs to have actually been born in Ireland. My grandchildren can get Irish passports because I was born in Ireland, they don’t get it because their father has one.

Bangolads · 30/05/2026 23:21

I’m sure its been said but an Irish great grandparent doesn’t count.

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