the behaviour of most men

There’s just under 500k single dads (as in sole/main carer) in the UK.

ETA Also, still waiting for you to tell me what exactly I should take responsibility for.

My father and my uncles (all on their 80's now) have all had wonderful marriages and raised happy families. My Father is still.one of my main confidants and ihas been so patient, loving and wise with all of his children and grandchildren.

Have they? Or has their wife done most of it?

You should spend 10mn around a Primary school during the school run, you might rethink quickly that road rage and inconsiderate and DANGEROUS driver behaviour is a male problem. Just go, and have a look, and see who is entitled.

Still men. Women are at 6%!

Yep. Single dads are generally the preserve of rom coms. In real life I know 1, and even then he’s moved in another woman who does most of the care.

I want to say something but I know I'll just get flamed for saying how I feel, and sharing my experiences, instead of just agreeing in the echo chamber.

oh really?

I don't buy it 😂Or I live in an extraordinary world, or maybe an alternative reality because I know a lot.

One of my kids primary school teacher is a single dad, my neighbour is a single dad (he's a widow, no one said it was always a choice), 2 of my work colleagues are single dads, because one mum decided to move out leaving the kids.
I don't buy that you can go to your kids sports competition or training, see dad, and just assume there's always a mum present somewhere. It's simply not true.

I could go on, but what I do know is that one of the worst thing they experience is the mistrust from SOME horrible women, who are outraged to see a dad in a baby group, or in a "mum environment' in the same way than SOME idiots are horrified to think men use MN too.

All the men in my life apart from my lovely grandfather who was a war hero have treated me like so much trash.
Today Id been waiting for a free spot at the garage to get petrol when this man drove right past me into the space I was waiting for a van to vacate so I absolutely let him have it and called him an arrogant prick amongst other things.
His girlfriend hid behind her bag and he drove off swearing with a bright red face.
I dont normally behave like that but Im just absolutely sick of men's entitled behaviour.

In 20 years of solo parenting, and living in a few different places, I've only ever met one single dad.

i don’t think you are unlucky nor wrong - this is just how it is. I have similar experience - know many awesome women and barely one decent man.. (same applies to most of my friends - similar ratio in their personal experiences).

everyone deals with this differently. Personally, I try to avoid men and if I cannot - keep them at distance.. with exceptions of course - like my brothers (they are not perfect) but I do believe their imperfections will not be shown to me and they will only treat me well.

I find women are more dependable, better and more reliable workers etc. with men there is always trying to show off / pretend / suck up. There are of course not great women but % wise - much less :)

the fact that Ghislaine is the only one in jail over Epstein saga is the only fact anyone needs to see and understand and think about accountability of men and women..

btw I don’t hate men - I just don’t see them as ‘safe’ and prefer to interact less. but sometimes they cannot be avoided and then I do play with their behaviour (only when provoked :)). This is in relation to professional relationships, in work. So tiring always to take the high road. I ‘help’ them to walk in the trap they try to build for me.. never an aggressor…

but my male relatives are not physically threatening to me either?

The point i was making was that I'm guessing your female relatives are not physically threatening to you. But you dont like them in comparison to male relatives, who can do all of those things but as they dont to you they are great.

blimey

I am not worried that the men around me might hit or sexually assault me, my sons or my daughters! If I was worried, I would not be around them. I wouldn't let my kids have male coaches either, go on sleepover with a dad in the house, or go on school/ sport trips with male!

I am not worried that women around me might poison me or start an anonymous hate campaign against me either, or whatever things some women accuse the other ones of doing.

Would I be worried they spent too much time with some of the posters on here who are unhinged? Yes, that I would. I'd feel unsafe around them 😂

Imagine if our legal system was that twisted: being accused of denying "evidence" when there are literally NONE.

I agree. At 47 i've come to realise that all my father figures who ought to have nurtured me have let us down, my grandfather, father and, catastrophically, stepfather. I'm certain i therefore displayed "daddy issues" and made bad choices throughout my life for which repercussions are ongoing. However, i do have a good life and a lot to be thankful for. I have one son who i'm desperately trying to raise differently.

But those data include minor motoring offences.

I don't disagree as I think the majority of men are shit and I include my DF and DB in this statement, however my DS and myself have been so lucky as we are both married to wonderful men. My DH is so kind and thoughtful and my BIL is the same. I think DS and myself went for the opposite of the men we grew up with.

Are you worried your mum and Mil might hit you or sexually assault you. Are you concerned about their sexualised behaviour around young boys or your own boy children

The only decent man I have known well was my grandfather... but I only knew him in terms of being my grandfather. I admit I have no idea what went on in other parts of his life, I couldn't know those parts of him in the same way the mothers of lovely kind boys on this thread cannot know how they behave in an intimate relationship. They would never be privy to that kind of behaviour.

But again, I would say they are lovely to you. You have nothing that they want. They’re not trying to fuck you.
I wonder if they’re lovely to people they’d like to fuck and can’t

Agree. I recently read Andrea Dworkin’s Right Wing Women and it’s scarily accurate. It’s full of descriptions of the exact kinds of comments littering this thread. Most women know they can’t afford to hold men to a higher standard, so they don’t. Instead, they come up with a thousand justifications for the status quo.

Hadn’t thought of that. Good point.

Most men put their dick above everything else. They're just going through the motions being a partner or father or whatever, waiting for the next opportunity for sex.
Many of them will cheat, rape or even kill to satisfy their kinks and desire for sex. You only need to follow the trial of Preston Davey's murderers to see that there is no limit to how low they will sink.

You just sound unfortunate. I know some men who are arseholes and so are some women. My dad is a bit of an idiot but my DH, brother, BIL etc are all lovely. My MIL and my own mother however are questionable.