the behaviour of most men

It’s a rare man that wouldn’t fuck a hole in the wall. Most of them when questioned on the Australian survey suggested that if they could get away with fucking children they would, the percentage was overwhelming horrifyingly so
So again, we’re back to my Nigel my Nigel sat in the armchair here thinking pure thoughts about nothing but United chances of winning the league next season not shagging the teenager Next Door 🙄

My walk is something I find really beneficial to my headspace. I normally listen to podcasts or music so I totally tune out, just put one foot in place of the other, look at people’s gardens and appreciate the trees, and listen to something uplifting, funny or educational through my headphones. Increasingly I have been feeling uneasy about walking with headphones, so sometimes I just put one on. But now I am going to have to go a busier way, more traffic, less greenery - and I will probably not listen through my headphones at all. I can’t imagine any scenario where I would avoid women sitting on a wall….Men should face the same restrictions that their existence places on women.

How can you possibly know what the men in your life are thinking?

No it's not .
I have sons and a husband who i believe are good men.
I would not stay /defend/ minimise/ cover up / excuse any of their behaviour detrimental to myself and /or other women, neither would i tolerate this from my daughter either.
I do not believe all men are bad the same as i do not believe all women are bad.
I know the damage and destruction men can do .
I love women , we are bloody amazing , i will always stand up for and support women , i think a lot of us are morally head and shoulders above men .
I am not a mother in denial, i just hate the way some people have decided that all men are bad when this is absolutely not true.

Because all men want to fuck someone and that is all? So it can’t be possible both my brother and my BIL oh and my own DH are kind to the women in their lives and don’t go about wanting to fuck anyone else?! Some of you have warped brains and assume alll fucking men are the same!

Ffs. Really?
No clearly not but I can still say that some women are just as bad as men. Not all men sexually assault people. Just hate that man bashing is such a massive thing but people forget women can be horrible too just in different ways! My MIL has made my life harder than any man in my 40 years of life!

I'm in my late 30s and can only wholeheartedly agree. My Dad did start my experience off well. Alcoholic, abusive to my Mum, controlling. Even though he hasn't touched a drop for years, he can still be very unpleasant when he wants to be. My ex husband was vile to me, controlling, verbally, emotionally and physically abusive. Still uses power play over our child. My sisters husband is an extremely controlling and abusive man and has destroyed my family. My best friend of many years - her ex walked out on her when she had twin babies, saying he couldn't cope. A lazy, weak man. Her sister's husband recently announced he hadnt been happy for years. That he blamed his depression on the mother of his three children who has given up career etc for their family. They are still unsure if they are separating but he failed to accompany her to an appointment to check if a tumour is cancerous recently. The number of women I know who have had partners who have cheated just blows my mind. I'm not saying its all men, but blimey its far too many of them. As someone above said, I have met so many incredible women in my life....men less so.

I walk a set route most mornings to get my steps in. I have seen a few men hanging around recently in this suburban area. You don’t normally see men sitting on walls etc. I thought they might be working in a care home on a break. But I went past it this afternoon, it seems to be a large property that has been turned over to asylum housing or HMO. There were about 6 men sitting on the wall, several nationalities. They were just staring at me, the benign suburban street suddenly felt dodgy.This isn’t an asylum bashing thread it’s an observation that I will now need to find a detour to avoid that street. There will people jumping on to say but they haven’t done anything wrong. I don’t actually care about hurt feelings, but as a female, knowing what I know about men, especially single men from cultures where women are barely seen as human, I refuse to take that risk. And it’s fucking annoying. Women have to shrink their lives to avoid risks that men never have to think about.

Males from a very young age think that females are a lesser species, ripe for manipulation to do what they’re want, they exist to serve males, to agree with them, to cater to them, to take abuse from them. Females buy into this but as you age, the scales drop and it becomes females turn to think that males are a lesser species. Seems fair enough. The pendulum swings.

Men have constantly let me down and disappointed me, and every single time it has involved sex. I don’t believe men are innately worse than women. I have known some really vicious, evil women, and I have known good men. But when it comes to sex, men just cannot be trusted.

• A friend’s 30-year-old son who was caught grooming a 13-year-old girl online (you can see the hunters corner him on a Youtube video).
• A much-loved cousin arrested for viewing indecent images of children (i.e underage girls).
• A ‘nice’ local handyman who, it turned out, had been going to Thailand to sleep with underage girls.
• A male friend who told me he regularly visits prostitutes.
• A work colleague I liked who angrily defended landlords offering sex for rent arrangements (he didn’t do it, he just couldn’t see the problem).
• Plus, of course, the numerous examples of cheating, leering at women in public, ugly sex jokes, etc.

I'm sorry to hear what you have experienced.

My experience is different. I know lots of honest, honourable, decent, brave, kind, helpful, loving men among my family, friends and colleagues.

Of course, I know plenty of cheaters, chumps and lazy arses too, but is crazy to say "I have zero belief in the goodness of any man any longer." Crazy.

And statistics.

Some women on MN seem oblivious.

You can bet everything on there not being alternative site's where all these men are falling over themselves to defend the decency of women, even the 'good ones' won't be sticking up for you.

I’ll be shot down here but it’s because they view life so differently to us in every way. They don’t love how we do, if at all.! I have seen a lot in my life because of industries I have worked in and very little is positive. I’m 49 and will never look at another male again, they can’t be trusted

I don’t think she is writing off ALL men. There are good men (and she says so), just very few and world is packed with not so good ones - therefore - likelihood of finding one = low, very low.

Im not 'insinuating' anything, I think my post is pretty clear. Ive had therapy and part of that was about what we attract and are attracted to and taking 'some' responsibility for that is part of it. I appreciate you dont agree but it doesnt make it right, and as many people have attested to, there are good men in the world and im sorry that you havent met them yet.

The fact that you are so willing to write off all men suggests that actually it is at least partly you, whether you are ready to see or accept that is another thing.

Ultimately it sounds like of youve made up your mind already so you do you

Again you’re absolutely spot on only a couple of weeks ago. There was a male driver trying to drive up a no entry sign that is no entry because it’s one way pedestrianised next door to a school.
When I had the audacity to be walking down the road and wouldn’t get out of his way and pointed to the one-way sign I got given the finger and a mouthful of explicative in front of the children
Just the kind of man you’d like to be impregnated by. He then did a three-point turn and parked on the zigzag and went into Collector his offspring. Hopefully his offspring not a random one.

You didnt live with him how can you know and comparing all men to harold shipman!!!

Don't feed the trolls.

or maybe, just maybe, you do not like to be told that the narrative of MOST MEN bad, women good is just pure nonsense.

They can be just as bad as each other, and thankfully just as good as each other.

And I don't believe that a normal parent, in real life, would mistrust a man just because he's a man , BUT would trust any woman with their child just because it's a woman. On an anonymous forum maybe, but you know in real life it's not the same.

I've come to the conclusion that you are being contrary just for the hell of it.🙄