AIBU to think booing the exhausted charity climbers was unfair?

Sorry but the people who fundraising here are definitely having a good time. There are no sponsored diets, but trips to interesting places to do unusual things.

I don't doubt you and those you are working with are doing a brilliant job in difficult situations. But ask yourself why are there over 30,000 cancer charities in the UK. If only one percent are paying a ceos wages, that's 300 people being paid to do the same job...

‘Idiot skittles’ 😅😅😅 love that.
people love to queue here, I always go to the top and check what I’m queuing for 1st!

A queue of people wanting to take bloody selfies! It’s a mountain, they just walked up a different bit - fair play to them!
I did similar at the top of a monument - just wanted to get to the top and see the view and I wasn’t going to stand around behind 50 odd people wanting to take ‘the’ photo

They didn’t barge through anyone. They went up a different way, bypassing the queue. Just like you might take a side road , instead of waiting in traffic to get to the same end point.

There are no " official rules" about what anyone should do at the summit. However, when lots of people want to do the same thing , like photo or video themselves at the trig, as an evolution of good manners , a queue usually forms. These young men wanted a video of themselves at the trig
They were videoing as they barged through those already waiting. So rude and inconsiderate of the people around them. IMO the people who booed did right. Social disapproval is a powerful way of reminding people what sort of manners we should be showing in public when there are no " authorities" to impose order.

Oh god - give me strength.

You do not have to queue unless you want a selfie/pic.

The BBC coverage really annoyed me. It gave these young men a platform for their self centred and entitled views. Hardly unbiased reporting.
These young men steamed past people waving their phones - so they were videoing the trig rather than taking a photo. A trivial difference. No wonder it annoyed the people who were queuing to do exactly the same thing. No wonder they got booed.
They showed a total lack of empathy for anyone else. I bet that queue contained other charity walkers or physically challenged people waiting to record their " personal best"
Queues on a mountain are not ideal, but that's what happens when a lot of people accumulate in a small space to do the same thing like touching a small trig stone. If that ritual is important to you, show good manners and join the queue, if not, take your souvenir photos elsewhere on the mountain.

Queues on mountains did not exist a few years ago. They're utterly absurd. There's no way I'm going to queue to tap a summit just because 50 people are standing waiting to take photographs. Just run up the quiet side, tap and move on.

Thankfully, most hilltops aren't like that, just the 'must do' ones, but only a matter of time before there's an Asda's at the top of Waun Rydd and that hill becomes similarly afflicted.

I doubt many people who voted YABU spend much time on hills.

Fyi I LOVE a queue in other circumstances.

Missing the point of the thread, but since when has there been a queue at the top? I climbed it years ago and where was no such nonsense.

If the queue is all idiot skittles trying to get a perfect photo for social media, which Googling indicates it is, then I don't think they really did anything wrong. The queue is a choice not a rule.

I don't understand why two random men getting booed is a news story though? Slow news day.

They’re definitely twats, but I suppose the publicity might help raise more money for their cause.

Go early, before the hoardes, and if you’re an experienced hiker try one of the more challenging paths because the more popular ones can involve queuing at points on the way up too. Even so there will be a million train travellers there before you get there so it doesn’t feel like unspoiled beauty at any point! The positive is a flush toilet at the top…

I thoroughly recommend Cader Idris as an alternative. Beautiful.

The charity duo are now on BBC Breakfast moaning about the response they received on the mountain. Poor lambs.

They love the attention for sure.

I liked the days when there were no queues on hills and mountains and almost no one had a camera. There was also no litter. In the Peaks last year I saw a huge pile of discarded plastic bottles, I couldn’t pick them up as a sackful but informed a ranger. Too many people just do it for the likes these days. I am all for queuing and hate queue jumpers but on this occasion I don’t see a problem because I don’t want to wait while some prick takes ages getting their photo for their insta. Plus some have just got the train up so its hardly an achievement, it’s just buying a ticket.

@CountryShepherd I do something similar to you, and I agree it's definitely unfair to tar everyone with the same brush. However, yes there definitely ARE people who just want to undertake a challenge and give no fucks about the charity, it just virtue signalling to the point where even taking part with injuries/being injured during is a badge of honour. There's definitely a "culture" around charity challenges (and yes, sometimes charities know that and quite rightly take advantage of it because they need the cash it generate to do their work with homeless, sick people, dogs, etc whatever). I'm quite heartened to see someone call it out on here - well - several people in fact. I know one family extended family who spend several weekends a year doing these challenges and making sure everyone knows about it. They wouldn't be able to tell you a single thing about the charities they are raising money for.

Anyway, regardless of all that, its sounds like a made up queue, I imagine some don't even know what they are queuing for! And the men were right to ignore it, it's not the law, for whatever personal reason they were undertaking a charity event and wanted to get up and get it done ASAP. They could be absolute arseholes for all we know, but there is no reason whatsoever for the queue as many on here have explained.

I read the BBC article and they made no apology whatsoever, and what they said about essentially queuing being optional was awful. What do they suggest, that everyone just gets their elbows out?
They might have had a different reception if they’d apologised and said that they were doing it for charity in a certain time.

Tradition, such as it is, is to get to the top, either by walking up steps or by scrambling. No queues either way. The photo takers have blocked one way to get up - ie walking up the steps - by turning the steps into an hour long selfie queue. Other routes are still available.

Yes I bypassed the steps last time I went. Scrambled up the side.

I wouldn’t because i can’t spell it 😁. And I used to live just outside Llanberis. 😁

Fun fact - the trig point on Snowdon was decommissioned in 1937, because the summit buildings blocked the views to it so it couldn't be used for actual triangulation - the actual trig point is on Carnedd Ugain - you go past it if you ascend via Crib Goch/Y Ddysgl.

The current Yr Wyddfa 'trig point' is a fake that was built in 2001 along with the steps for accessibility.

and i’d say you’re walking up Yr Wyddfa.

You've kinda got it here, the way people queue generally means that the people taking the photo at the top can get a photo with no one in the frame behind them.

Those that just push in to touch the top are getting into the frame of the photo that people have waited patiently to take. The people taking for the photo then wait for the pushers to move again to get that clear photo, so it holds up the whole queue.

It might not be a mountain rule, but I do think it's basic manners to wait.

I can't imagine they would have gone up the steps - they would have just scrambled up the side.

This is the crazy thing - the cairn and trig point is easily accessible from all sides, however tourists have 'decided' that everyone should go up one set of steps and down the other.

Touching trigs and walking up a hill is the same thing……that’s my point!

bagging trigs = touching the trig the very thing they Said they were doing in the artical.