How is this 'protest'? Helen Mirren targetted

Whataboutery

No colonial powers gave anyone anything. Unlike, say, Jordan which was literally created out of mandatory Palestine by the Brits (fact). Like I said, totally inaccurate and weird comparison.

And its not about belief, its about facts.

Jews were forcibly expelled from their homeland. Fact.

Jews always prayed and wanted to return. Fact.

Many jews did return over the years under ottoman and British rule (and previosily depending who ruled - never ever palestinian btw). Fact.

The return of the Jews to their homeland could easily have been done without conflcit with compromise and agreement. Fact.

Many Arabs themselves migrated to mandatory Palestine from other surrounding countries due to the economic success as a result of Jewish migration. Fact.

The brits did promise at different times to give the land to Arabs or Jews. In the end, they handed the problem to a UN commission which proposed partition. Fact.

Palestinian jews accepted UN proposed partition, Palestinians Arabs rejected any Jewish self determination in mandatory Palestine, no compromise. Fact.

Civil war began. Fact.

Brits had enough trying to contain the civil.and just unilaterally. left. On the day they departed,.Palestinian zionsits declared the state of Israel. Palestinian Arabs don't (they could have, the brits had upped and gone). Fact

So turn those facts into a "thought experiment "

Getting granular (exhaustion tactic)

Fake news

Infantilisation, reductive and personal attack

Helen grew up in westcliff on sea, with its big Jewish community. She went to school with Jews and will definitely have had Jewish friends. If she still follows her home town at all she will doubtless be disgusted by Palestine protesters from outside of town coming in to harass local Jews especially on Sabbath and festive days. I have no idea if she stands by what she reportedly said all those years ago but I'm sure she has the highest regard for the Jewish community and rightly so.
Like most of us round here.

Mirroring tactic

No it isn't mockery. Try it.

If people had a sincerely held belief about a valuable part of England to which they also had ancestral links 1000 plus years ago, what would we do if it were given to them by vast foreign military powers?

Palestinians are indigenous. Europeans and Americans do not have right to indigenous homes.

Do you also support return of New York and other lands to First Nations?

It fits with your approach to the Congo, Sudan and Rohingya genocides.

Can't see, wont see.

Yes it is! And rightly.

Your "thought experiment" is nothing but deriding and mocking Jewish claims to the land by making a ridiculous and totally inaccurate comparison which shows your bias and agenda. Jews are indigenous to Israel, they didnt ask to be expelled. The arch of Titus is there for.a reason.

Man shouts aggressively at a woman in the street - calls her a bitch. I hope that’s an arrestable offence.

Yes, most people have access and there's plenty,.plenty of footage available from Congo and Sudan. There are enough people with mobile phones and Internet access (although true that Gaza was more developed and richer than many places) You dont see it ebcause you dont look and your social media algorithms dont show becuase youre not interested.

Good you support the heroes of the warsaw ghetto. Many of the survivors and their descendants live in Israel today. Thank goodness Jews now have somewhere to go and aren't at the mercy of others, whether Germans, Poles, Iraqis or Yemenis.

Blooooooooooooooo suits you! Don't.

A thought experiment is not mockery. Try it.

And it could happen if the Odinists get their act together.

I'll respond properly after I've washed off my blue hair dye.

They wouldn't be racist attacks, just like antizionism isn't antisemitism. 'Semantics' matter!

I have seen so many nonwomen and nonJews and nonJewish women...must inform them of the new non- status next time I see a march. \s

Perhaps you can start a thread about the American South, General.

What a strange post. Maybe educate yourself rather than getting your news from Facebook.

No no.
Digital divide: https://social.desa.un.org/sdn/29-billion-people-still-offline
[2.9 billion]

Gaza: see Ilan Pappé and others. Another example:
https://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/latest/life-gaza-and-after-war-doctors-story

Praise be to the memory and legacy of the Warsaw Ghetto. May their spirits bring wisdom.

Yeah, except none of this is happening. Israel is the Jewish people's ancestral homeland from where they were forcibly expelled. Jews have always longed and prayed to return to zion.

The Arabs have many times been offered a compromise state and refused. They didnt want to share or recognise competing claims.

You can support Palestinians rights without mocking and deriding Jewish claims to the land. The tragedy is both israelis and Palestinians have a right to self determination and to live in that land and the only reasonable way is compromise.

BTW fun fact. When Jordan ruled Jerusalem from 1948-1967 (and didnt establish a Palestinian state in west bank btw) not only did they expel every single Jew, they also forbade Jews praying at the western wall. In fact, any foreigner visiting that site had to prove they weren't Jewish,.it was that important to them. Did you know that? If not, you're welcome.

There has been no official determination of genocide. Thats the icc, icj or an international ad hoc tribunal. Everything is opinion.

And she has good reason for supporting Israel remaining in euro vision which is not racist or supporting violence in any way You may not agree with but shes entitled to her opinion without being misogynistically abused in the street.

They weren't ethnically cleansed. I know the area of Jerusalem she is talking about. People were evicted to create the plaza in front of the western wall and they were Arab but that's becuase all the Jews in the Jewish quarter of the old city of Jerusalem where it was had been ethnically cleansed themselves 19 years previously. They weren't expelled and went to live in other parts of Jerusalem.
I imagine it wasn't nice but hardly the most egregious of acts. People are evicted by governments for many reasons all the time.