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not to help BIL with the kids while DSis goes away for a few days?

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saynooo · 28/05/2026 10:15

DSis and BIL have four lovely children under 8. They’re good kids but obviously four children are hard work at times. DSis wants to go away with friends for a few days and has asked me to come and stay/help because BIL says he’ll find it too much on his own.

The thing is, BIL regularly goes away on cycling holidays for a week at a time and DSis manages the children perfectly well without extra help.

When he goes away, it’s just accepted that she copes, but when she wants a few days away herself, suddenly she needs support put in place for him.

I do help out with the kids generally and love spending time with them, so this isn’t about disliking them. I just feel a bit irritated by the double standard and I’m tempted to say no this time.

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YourPoliteTurtle · 28/05/2026 17:04

anyone else would love to know what self-employed role with less than full time hours is enough to support a family of 6 with no help 😂

sittingonabeach · 28/05/2026 17:01

Admittedly we don’t have 4 DC but when DC were young DH would not be needing help with DC or house if I went away. Might have asked friend to help with school runs (and we had helped them in the past) but everything else he would have coped with

LBFseBrom · 28/05/2026 17:01

SissySpacekAteMyHamster · 28/05/2026 10:18

He is never going to be able to cope if he is never given the chance of coping. Also, it might make him realise what he is asking of his wife every time he goes away.

I'd say no and tell her why.

I agree.

rwalker · 28/05/2026 17:00

It’s her own fault she needs to leave him too it more often
she does it day in day out and him hardly ever so he is obviously going to be hard and he’ll struggle

it’s the same as you being doing a job for years then you expect a new starter to be up to the same speed as you

the fact she won’t go unless he has reinforcements isn’t helping anyone he’ll never learn to cope

at the end of the day as long as there safe so what if she comes back to chaos

Shatteredallthetimelately · 28/05/2026 17:00

saynooo · 28/05/2026 16:51

DSis knows he will struggle so wants me to help him. The house is never pristine with 4 kids!

So, by that he himself hasn't asked her to ask you, she's taken it upon herself to speak for him.

The impression I get in some of the answers on here is he's a lazy good for nothing father and has told her to ask you to come and stay...not the case?

Yes, he may struggle but so do many women, openly admitting on a day to day basis that they struggle with their own kids but don't get called lazy good for nothings, they manage.
Maybe your BIL would too.

YourPoliteTurtle · 28/05/2026 17:00

saynooo · 28/05/2026 16:56

I don't think it is the job of women to ask other women for support for fathers with their own children. It happens a lot though. Look at similar stories pp have related. This is not a rare phenomenon.

There is scant detail about the circumstances (any special needs, school hours clashing, father working very long hours, ages of children

No special needs
No clash of school hours (BIL is self employed with flexibility. Works less than full time hours DSis is SAHM)
Children are all under 8 - from age 2 to 8

easy solution, she gets a part-time job and he starts doing more in the house.

It's fair that the SAH parent does a lot more than the full-time working one (literally their job), but to make it fairer, she just needs to get a job and not be solely responsible of the kids.

Less financial pressure on HIM if another adult brings a salary

Less house chore and childcare pressure on HER if another adult takes over half the load

YourPoliteTurtle · 28/05/2026 16:57

saynooo · 28/05/2026 16:53

Yes. She has meals ready in the freezer, stocked up the fridge, done lots of prep. He does nothing when he goes away. He just goes away.

she could do the same.

As a mum, fair enough to put reminder about hats/ water/ sunscreem. You shouldn't have to, but better safe than sorry. A poster got her little girl back with bad sunburnt, and it's her own MIL who had her, so not all mums know best either.

Ready meals? If he's competent enough to hold a job and survive on weekends away, he can organise his own food, for him and the kids?

AnneLovesGilbert · 28/05/2026 16:57

I find this gob smacking because I don’t know a single dad who’s this useless, never mind openly admit his total incompetence and claim he couldn’t care for his own children for a few days.

Foraor · 28/05/2026 16:56

saynooo · 28/05/2026 16:51

DSis knows he will struggle so wants me to help him. The house is never pristine with 4 kids!

And your immediate response was not to say 'Babe, are you seriously telling me you had four children with a man who isn't able to look after them himself?'

saynooo · 28/05/2026 16:56

Fleurdavril · 28/05/2026 13:44

OP, presumably you are asking this question because you are questioning your sister's request for you to assist your BIL while she is away. There is scant detail about the circumstances (any special needs, school hours clashing, father working very long hours, ages of children and so on).

You have not said whether BIL himself actually wants and asked for your support. Perhaps he doesn't and didn't.

One poster suggested BIL might ask his brother or father. To which you replied that 'women don't often ask other men'. Why do you assume it's the job of women to ask other women for support for fathers with their own children? Perhaps suggest to your sister that BIL could ask one of his male family members for help if it's needed???

The whole situation is an example of women enabling men's learned helplessness. Of course this father can manage, just as most men can, unless there are extraordinary circumstances. Please just decline and tell your sister to enjoy her break and let her husband get on with it. If the house is a bit untidy, so what? The father will likely have a great bonding experience with his children.

I don't think it is the job of women to ask other women for support for fathers with their own children. It happens a lot though. Look at similar stories pp have related. This is not a rare phenomenon.

There is scant detail about the circumstances (any special needs, school hours clashing, father working very long hours, ages of children

No special needs
No clash of school hours (BIL is self employed with flexibility. Works less than full time hours DSis is SAHM)
Children are all under 8 - from age 2 to 8

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sittingonabeach · 28/05/2026 16:56

Maybe she shouldn’t have done anything, or someone needs to tell him (preferably a male) that he needs to step up and do the same food prep etc when he goes away next

YourPoliteTurtle · 28/05/2026 16:55

cantthinkofagoodusername1 · 28/05/2026 16:46

I don’t think it’s strict or controlling to expect the house to be clean and tidy.

who said it was?

What is controlling and stupid is expecting the other parent to stick to your own strict rules. They are both equal parents.

The child has toast instead of cereals, so?

The child eats too late in the afternoon, so what? Dad will see if evening is a struggle and why it's easier to have a routine, mum is not here anyway. Or the evening will be a breeze and mum was a bit uptight.

The child wears a red hat and a yellow tshirt instead of the matching yellow hat?
I mean, too bad..

saynooo · 28/05/2026 16:53

Pallisers · 28/05/2026 15:26

And I bet your sister will have made dinners and done the shopping and carefully labelled everything in the fridge/freezer so he doesn't have to worry about that.

I'd really struggle with being called in to clean up after a man like that - since that is what you say is the point of it. To stop the house being a tip when she gets back.

I'd offer to take the kids to the park for a couple of hours one of the days. he can clean up then. bet he won't though. Useless.

Yes. She has meals ready in the freezer, stocked up the fridge, done lots of prep. He does nothing when he goes away. He just goes away.

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saynooo · 28/05/2026 16:51

Shatteredallthetimelately · 28/05/2026 15:18

So has your DBIL made your DSIS ask you to stay due to him being the type of male not wanting to take care of his own DC

Or... is it actually nothing to do with him not being able to manage and more to do with your Dsis wanting to come home to a pristine house, which TBF having four DC is pretty much a big ask all round.

DSis knows he will struggle so wants me to help him. The house is never pristine with 4 kids!

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cantthinkofagoodusername1 · 28/05/2026 16:46

YourPoliteTurtle · 28/05/2026 16:40

What's the usual set-up?

They both work full-time, and she's having to be the handmaiden, work + kids + chores + house and everything? And he's being an incompetent idiot.

Or is she very strict on the way things MUST be done, he get screamed at if he pick the wrong colour tshirt or give a different breakfast at his own chosen time, and he can't do nothing right.

If they both have equal responsibilities, it's about time he learns to cope with the children he decided to have.

If he hadn't been allowed to parent in his own way, then now it's his chance and she has to accept HER way is not THE way.

Either way, I am sure he can cope 😂

I don’t think it’s strict or controlling to expect the house to be clean and tidy.

cantthinkofagoodusername1 · 28/05/2026 16:45

BIL is a cyclist, so I’m willing to bet that he spends hours watching YouTube videos about how to service his bike etc. So tell him he can do the same to learn how to manage his own family.
And men expect us to accept that they are superior to us??!!

cantthinkofagoodusername1 · 28/05/2026 16:43

HoppingPavlova · 28/05/2026 11:00

DSis wants to go away with friends for a few days and has asked me to come and stay/help because BIL says he’ll find it too much on his own

There are two options here. 1/ BIL is utterly incompetent; and 2/ BIL is competent but just wants to skive off or laze around and have someone else do it.

Either option, I would go. I would do nothing but ‘direct’ if and as needed. So essentially, my time would be spent on the lounge, with a book, giving BIL pointers/helpful advice/instruction whenever he asked for help. That would be my help. It would send a strong message. If he asks ‘what’s the point of you being here’, just respond ‘you said you can’t do it, I’m here to tell you how to do it, so that you can do it, it won’t help you with your problem if I do it for you’.

If he dares to indicate he is going out to the pub/football/gym, say ‘no, that won’t work, I mean when you go away SIL doesn’t go out because that just doesn’t work, how do you think it works in this situation, I’m here to help point stuff like this out as you have said you need that assistance’.

I would have it sorted for SIL return. One man, either now competent, or understanding he can’t be a lazy shirker.

I think BIL wants to have his own bit of time off while his wife is away and will dump everything on OP if she turns up.
I love your idea of turning up to direct operations but not actually do any of the work. Write him a list! 🤣🤣

lornad00m · 28/05/2026 16:43

saynooo · 28/05/2026 10:15

DSis and BIL have four lovely children under 8. They’re good kids but obviously four children are hard work at times. DSis wants to go away with friends for a few days and has asked me to come and stay/help because BIL says he’ll find it too much on his own.

The thing is, BIL regularly goes away on cycling holidays for a week at a time and DSis manages the children perfectly well without extra help.

When he goes away, it’s just accepted that she copes, but when she wants a few days away herself, suddenly she needs support put in place for him.

I do help out with the kids generally and love spending time with them, so this isn’t about disliking them. I just feel a bit irritated by the double standard and I’m tempted to say no this time.

Don't just be tempted. Say no. He's ridiculous.

MmeDubois7 · 28/05/2026 16:43

Id say no. You are not in control of what drcision your sister makes. Surely a grown man can look after his own children.

YourPoliteTurtle · 28/05/2026 16:40

What's the usual set-up?

They both work full-time, and she's having to be the handmaiden, work + kids + chores + house and everything? And he's being an incompetent idiot.

Or is she very strict on the way things MUST be done, he get screamed at if he pick the wrong colour tshirt or give a different breakfast at his own chosen time, and he can't do nothing right.

If they both have equal responsibilities, it's about time he learns to cope with the children he decided to have.

If he hadn't been allowed to parent in his own way, then now it's his chance and she has to accept HER way is not THE way.

Either way, I am sure he can cope 😂

Whatthefork1 · 28/05/2026 16:33

There are always double standards when it comes to mums and dads, it’s utterly ridiculous. I bet if he takes them to the park “he is such an involved and helpful dad”.

Llamallamafruitpyjama · 28/05/2026 16:28

saynooo · 28/05/2026 10:56

Women don't often ask other men.

So as usual he’s pushed it on to her to sort.

He can’t cope with his own kids and can’t be arsed to even find help.

ABSOLUTELY NOT. He needs to learn how to cope with his own kids and keep the house tidy. Women aren’t magically better at these things, we just are expected to do them.

outerspacepotato · 28/05/2026 16:24

@saynooo , this is not about helping your sister. She could hire that done if her husband is such a loser he can't take care of his kids or his home for a few days.

It's about the misogyny she's showing expecting you to abdicate any of your responsibilities to go move in and be his surrogate wife/enabler. And you say people don't usually ask men. Yes, people ask men for help all the damn time. She just won't bother because she thinks it's your job to step in and prop his useless ass because you're a woman.

Jollyhockeystickss · 28/05/2026 16:22

saynooo · 28/05/2026 10:28

She will feel better about going if she knows I am there to help with the DC and keep the house from being in a horrific tip for when she returns.

So he can he shoot the spermies but not look after the end result and whilst hes sat on his bottom she wants you to clean her house and look after her kids,

Seriously12 · 28/05/2026 16:21

Absolutely not a chance.
What a loser she married.