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AIBU to keep my two-year-old at nursery when displaying increasing aggressive behaviour?

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ThePoisedOpalBird · 27/05/2026 18:18

I'm partly posting here as it gets more replies and also because i'm not sure whats best.

I have a lovely 2 year old who has been put on a ABC review due to aggressive behaviour. So far he has been on it a week and it seems to have got worse! He has had around 12 incidents in the space of a week ranging from pushing kids down to trying to hit with items or just straight out smacking them in the face. So far nursery have not identified a single trigger!

He is casually walking up to these kids seemingly happy and then hurting them. There is no overwhelming crying or other kids taking his toys etc. He just seems to walk up to them, hurt them, smile and now runs away from his teachers (I assume as he now knows they are going to remove him from the situation and do a different activity with him.

I'm at a loss of how nursery are going to tackle this when there is seemingly no cause? Could he just be bored?

I guess my aibu is do I let nursery continue to try and work this out and hopefully he doesn't end up being kicked out. Or would it be more reasonable to remove him and keep him at home?

Any advice greatly appreciated!

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BertieBotts · 27/05/2026 23:00

ThePoisedOpalBird · 27/05/2026 22:53

It is not 100% of my attention but yes the baby is with me all the time.

But what exactly is the solution to that with a young baby. He is exclusively breastfed so I am his food source which being only 3 months he eats frequently. He also hates to be put down to the point he is sick so what exactly is the solution except time?

I am also solo parenting 6 days a week (3 of those toddler is at nursery) and I only have 1 pair of arms!

FWIW I don't think the poster was saying you need to have a solution. It is unfair and it's OK that it's unfair - life is not fair 100% of the time and even 2 year olds can handle that. They might not handle it totally in the way we would love but he is not being traumatised or damaged by the experience.

This is a temporary phase of life and it will get easier, for all of you.

BertieBotts · 27/05/2026 22:58

These have good resources for speech/communication. https://speechandlanguage.org.uk/

There is a good series called The Out of Sync Child including Growing an In Sync Child which has lots of ideas for activities to help development, although this is more physical development than communication.

You said you did an ASQ questionnaire - it's the 27 month one you want if he's not quite 2y3m old. They are quite specific to exact ages.

However in general - he is 2. You have a newborn who is very demanding. It is hot. You have a HV appointment and the nursery are implementing their own plans. It's likely a phase and he will likely grow out of it without a huge amount of fuss or intervention. Yes do keep an eye in case it's part of a wider pattern or in case anything gets worse. But mainly, don't stress. He's only very little yet. It's very unlikely you have done anything terribly wrong.

ThePoisedOpalBird · 27/05/2026 22:55

G1ngerbread · 27/05/2026 22:51

Type into google something like “shared attention activities for toddlers speech and language” just 5 mins a day is all you need. Aside from that, reading, singing, general chatter (not from an iPad) and exposure to different places, environments etc.
The reason children needing to be ‘socialised’ before school is a new development, is because our understanding has changed. A big part of school readiness is being able to share a space with other children, share, interact, follow simple routines, pay attention. I’m not saying children need to go to nursery, but if they don’t they should be regularly attending groups and activities to help with these things.

Thank you I will look at that tomorrow!

So if we don't have groups etc available around us then we are better to try to keep him at nursery for socialisation (but maybe reduce him to 2 days once baby isnt so needy?)

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ThePoisedOpalBird · 27/05/2026 22:53

Laurmolonlabe · 27/05/2026 22:45

You have your answer- you are giving 100% of your attention and love to the baby and you 2 year old is lashing out because it is completely unfair- I agree with him.

It is not 100% of my attention but yes the baby is with me all the time.

But what exactly is the solution to that with a young baby. He is exclusively breastfed so I am his food source which being only 3 months he eats frequently. He also hates to be put down to the point he is sick so what exactly is the solution except time?

I am also solo parenting 6 days a week (3 of those toddler is at nursery) and I only have 1 pair of arms!

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G1ngerbread · 27/05/2026 22:51

ThePoisedOpalBird · 27/05/2026 22:45

Thats helpful to know regarding not going to nursery and just heading to school (although we had said I would consider going back to work after my second hits 2 so that may have to go on hold)

This may sound ridiculous but are there any good books or anything resources to help him with his communication. And how does he practice it if he isn't having a lot of interaction with kids his age.

As I said above my social skills are very low so I am not a good model for him and we only have a toddler group once a week and honestly I hate them and so does he as they are just open play toys and we used to have to just leave as he couldn't just throw all the toys on the floor like he does at home.

Type into google something like “shared attention activities for toddlers speech and language” just 5 mins a day is all you need. Aside from that, reading, singing, general chatter (not from an iPad) and exposure to different places, environments etc.
The reason children needing to be ‘socialised’ before school is a new development, is because our understanding has changed. A big part of school readiness is being able to share a space with other children, share, interact, follow simple routines, pay attention. I’m not saying children need to go to nursery, but if they don’t they should be regularly attending groups and activities to help with these things.

ThePoisedOpalBird · 27/05/2026 22:50

BertieBotts · 27/05/2026 22:36

Nurseries are experts at getting quite small children to follow tasks/rituals/instructions. It can take a bit of practice at home. It is quite unusual though if he doesn't follow instructions ever at all. Do you mean even for things when you're playing a game together which he's enjoying? For example if you are getting him dressed, will he push his arm through a sleeve when asked? If you hold out his shoe will he put his foot into it? Or if you were playing with a ball and said "Throw it to me!" or "Get it in the box!" would he (try to) do that?

It is vv normal of course for 2yos to be masters of "No!" around things they don't want to do Grin but it is normal IME for them to understand and follow instructions when it's something which is fun or which they see the benefit of.

He doesn't play games with me. I have managed to get him to play with magnatiles with me but he doesn't follow instructions with it. He gets me to build a box so he can fill it with stuff and then smash it. He is selective with instructions. If it is somethint he wants to do (unload the dishwasher) then he will help. If its trying to play a game or stop doing something not so much!

He hates getting dressed. Sometimes he will cooperate slighly but 90% of the time he runs away and I have to force his clothes on. He can be begging me to go outside or see grandad but wont actually willingly get ready to go out even though he knows he needs clothes and shoes to go out 🙈

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Laurmolonlabe · 27/05/2026 22:45

You have your answer- you are giving 100% of your attention and love to the baby and you 2 year old is lashing out because it is completely unfair- I agree with him.

ThePoisedOpalBird · 27/05/2026 22:45

Laurmolonlabe · 27/05/2026 22:36

I understand your worries, but this level of socialisation before school is a relatively new thing- I didn't go to school until I was 5 and I never went to nursery, and most of my friends didn't either- we were fine.
You need to build his communication skills at home, you can't expect others to do it for you.

Thats helpful to know regarding not going to nursery and just heading to school (although we had said I would consider going back to work after my second hits 2 so that may have to go on hold)

This may sound ridiculous but are there any good books or anything resources to help him with his communication. And how does he practice it if he isn't having a lot of interaction with kids his age.

As I said above my social skills are very low so I am not a good model for him and we only have a toddler group once a week and honestly I hate them and so does he as they are just open play toys and we used to have to just leave as he couldn't just throw all the toys on the floor like he does at home.

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ThePoisedOpalBird · 27/05/2026 22:40

Floppyearedlab · 27/05/2026 22:30

A 30 minute walk? He isn't a dog. He needs your time and your attention.
Leave the baby with your partner and do something with him. The kid probably feels he has lost his place in the family and doesn't yet have the cognitive ability to communicate that without lashing out.

No he isn't a dog but it would be a 'walk' or probably a push in the pram around the corner to the park!

Unfortunately it just isnt that simple when the baby is exclusively breastfed so I cant just 'leave the baby with him' to go out with my toddler.

Also personally I don't like to be away from the baby who is with me 24 hrs a day for long so I wouldn't just leave the baby. At the moment we could probably cope with a hour to the park around the corner on my partners day off and if he needed me in that time my partner could bring him over.

It will be able to be for a longer stretch as he gets a bit older.

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BertieBotts · 27/05/2026 22:36

Nurseries are experts at getting quite small children to follow tasks/rituals/instructions. It can take a bit of practice at home. It is quite unusual though if he doesn't follow instructions ever at all. Do you mean even for things when you're playing a game together which he's enjoying? For example if you are getting him dressed, will he push his arm through a sleeve when asked? If you hold out his shoe will he put his foot into it? Or if you were playing with a ball and said "Throw it to me!" or "Get it in the box!" would he (try to) do that?

It is vv normal of course for 2yos to be masters of "No!" around things they don't want to do Grin but it is normal IME for them to understand and follow instructions when it's something which is fun or which they see the benefit of.

Laurmolonlabe · 27/05/2026 22:36

ThePoisedOpalBird · 27/05/2026 22:12

The thing that worries me with taking him out is the lack of socialisation impacting his communication even more. I don't have friends and i'm no good at toddler groups (we also only have 1 around us) so I am reluctant to remove him incase it causes even more issues further down the line.

Of course if he gets kicked out I don't have a choice but I don't want to personally make the call to pull him out and then it causes loads of issues when he starts school because he hasn't had to interactions to develop his social skills and he isn't going to learn them from me as I severely lack them!

I understand your worries, but this level of socialisation before school is a relatively new thing- I didn't go to school until I was 5 and I never went to nursery, and most of my friends didn't either- we were fine.
You need to build his communication skills at home, you can't expect others to do it for you.

Floppyearedlab · 27/05/2026 22:30

ThePoisedOpalBird · 27/05/2026 20:17

I will have a chat with my partner. We could probably do a 30min-1 hr walk just me and him once a week and hopefully that will help him a bit.

A 30 minute walk? He isn't a dog. He needs your time and your attention.
Leave the baby with your partner and do something with him. The kid probably feels he has lost his place in the family and doesn't yet have the cognitive ability to communicate that without lashing out.

ThePoisedOpalBird · 27/05/2026 22:19

G1ngerbread · 27/05/2026 22:16

It does sound like there’s possibly a mild speech delay. People may slate me and say they all develop different etc which is true but I have experience in this area, and from little bits you have said it does sound like maybe he is slightly behind. I think that, plus the arrival of new baby is probably what is going on. I don’t think you need to worry at this stage. Have his 2 year review if you haven’t already, ask for tips on improving speech and the rest will get easier in time when things settle with having a new baby.
5 mins a day of an activity that creates shared attention is all you really need to do to make progress with both speech, and bonding time.

Thank you. So far nursery have said they don't see any speech delay and after doing the ages and stages questionaire someone suggested it seems he is meeting all the requirements for speech but I will be discussing all my concerns when the health visitor eventually comes.

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ThePoisedOpalBird · 27/05/2026 22:18

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 27/05/2026 22:12

Yes of course they can.

They don't have to single your son out to do it either, it can be done as a group activity so it isn't taking away resources.

So for kids that like deep pressure or proprioceptive input, it can be scheduled time on climbing equipment, deep pressure under pillows or bean bags, it can even be yoga and rubbing down body parts or what we call "squeezing out the sillies" where we squeeze his arms and his legs.

Ideally they would implement this in small intervals for between 2-10 minutes every other hour as a way to reset.

A nursery sensory diet plan for kids who don't have any recognised SEN, or other medical and therapeutic input might include:

movement breaks

heavy work/play

calming sensory activities

environmental adjustments

predictable routines

support during transitions

opportunities for oral sensory input

co-regulation with adults

I will mention it to them and see what they say. I don't think they really have a lot of structure to their day besides meal and nap times its a lot of free play but I will mention it and see if they would be willing to try it.

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G1ngerbread · 27/05/2026 22:16

It does sound like there’s possibly a mild speech delay. People may slate me and say they all develop different etc which is true but I have experience in this area, and from little bits you have said it does sound like maybe he is slightly behind. I think that, plus the arrival of new baby is probably what is going on. I don’t think you need to worry at this stage. Have his 2 year review if you haven’t already, ask for tips on improving speech and the rest will get easier in time when things settle with having a new baby.
5 mins a day of an activity that creates shared attention is all you really need to do to make progress with both speech, and bonding time.

ThePoisedOpalBird · 27/05/2026 22:15

BertieBotts · 27/05/2026 22:11

Nursery are unlikely to be able to do a sensory diet plan. That is something an occupational therapist can do but they are unlikely to have one on hand.

How long are the days? If you say he generally hits at home when he gets overwhelmed then maybe he's just kind of had enough after a certain point, and if you say it's increased after the ABC plan and they take him away to do something 1:1 it might be he is doing it because he wants more adult attention. Maybe they should try keeping him busy with little jobs/challenges so he doesn't get bored and look to hit other children. Then if he does hit, make the reaction much more boring.

90% of the incidents are happening in the morning. Only 2 I think were after nap time! Hes there 7.5 hours but most incidents are happening in the first hour sometimes first 3 hours.

I can 100% suggest to them trying to get him doing odd jobs/challenges but i'm not sure he would engage with it but could be worth a try for them. It wouldn't work for us at home as he doesn't follow instructions for tasks or games etc but they could give it a try.

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Jimmyneutronsforehead · 27/05/2026 22:12

ThePoisedOpalBird · 27/05/2026 21:57

Sorry what is a sensory diet plan? Will they realistically be able to meet those level of needs with 2-3 members of staff to 10-15 2 year olds?

Yes of course they can.

They don't have to single your son out to do it either, it can be done as a group activity so it isn't taking away resources.

So for kids that like deep pressure or proprioceptive input, it can be scheduled time on climbing equipment, deep pressure under pillows or bean bags, it can even be yoga and rubbing down body parts or what we call "squeezing out the sillies" where we squeeze his arms and his legs.

Ideally they would implement this in small intervals for between 2-10 minutes every other hour as a way to reset.

A nursery sensory diet plan for kids who don't have any recognised SEN, or other medical and therapeutic input might include:

movement breaks

heavy work/play

calming sensory activities

environmental adjustments

predictable routines

support during transitions

opportunities for oral sensory input

co-regulation with adults

ThePoisedOpalBird · 27/05/2026 22:12

Laurmolonlabe · 27/05/2026 22:07

Probably better to jump before you are pushed, and try to get to the bottom of why he is acting this way.

The thing that worries me with taking him out is the lack of socialisation impacting his communication even more. I don't have friends and i'm no good at toddler groups (we also only have 1 around us) so I am reluctant to remove him incase it causes even more issues further down the line.

Of course if he gets kicked out I don't have a choice but I don't want to personally make the call to pull him out and then it causes loads of issues when he starts school because he hasn't had to interactions to develop his social skills and he isn't going to learn them from me as I severely lack them!

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BertieBotts · 27/05/2026 22:11

Nursery are unlikely to be able to do a sensory diet plan. That is something an occupational therapist can do but they are unlikely to have one on hand.

How long are the days? If you say he generally hits at home when he gets overwhelmed then maybe he's just kind of had enough after a certain point, and if you say it's increased after the ABC plan and they take him away to do something 1:1 it might be he is doing it because he wants more adult attention. Maybe they should try keeping him busy with little jobs/challenges so he doesn't get bored and look to hit other children. Then if he does hit, make the reaction much more boring.

Laurmolonlabe · 27/05/2026 22:07

Probably better to jump before you are pushed, and try to get to the bottom of why he is acting this way.

Balloonhearts · 27/05/2026 22:00

It sounds like he doesn't really understand that he is hurting them. If he isn't angry and has a happy attitude when doing it. 2 year olds don't really get that other people are people in a sense. They interact with them but have no concept of empathy. He just sounds like a typical 2 year old.

ThePoisedOpalBird · 27/05/2026 21:57

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 27/05/2026 21:50

So we all have 8 senses and we all have needs related to those senses.

Touch
Taste
Sight
Sound
Smell
Interoception- what's happening inside, are we too hot, cold, hungry, thirsty, in pain, need the bathroom, overstimulated, understimulated
Proprioception- this is our interaction with the space around us and pressure, some people crave deep pressure input through roughhousing and literally need it to regulate, some can't cope with deep pressure and need light touch, some find light touch physically painful, and sometimes it's all of them at the same time and it can be confusing
Vestibular- this is our balance sense. Some people turn their head wrong and go dizzy and then you've got some people who can go straight from doing waltzers level spinning to walking in a straight line in seconds.

We all have to meet these needs. They may be hyperactive needs or hypoactive needs.

Nursery really should (and can) do a sensory diet plan for your son so they understand his needs better. Maybe they can incorporate it as a proactive method of regulation rather than a reactive method of regulation to prevent instances of hitting or biting.

Sorry what is a sensory diet plan? Will they realistically be able to meet those level of needs with 2-3 members of staff to 10-15 2 year olds?

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ThePoisedOpalBird · 27/05/2026 21:55

andana · 27/05/2026 21:41

My 2.5 year old has had similar instances, it seemed to occur when he had a “big feeling” for want of a better expression - a burst of energy, excitement, etc. He would often be a bit hyper after lunch and that seemed to be a trigger for being rough - apparently he would go round cuddling other kids and then lash out, seemingly out of nowhere. It was like he was seeing what reaction he would get. Same at pick up - I would see him playing beautifully, then when he spotted me he would run over for a cuddle and then push a child out of nowhere.

Nursery did the kind hands approach but it didn’t seem to make sense to him, it was just repetition and not paying him more attention for poor behaviour that did. Eventually on the way to nursery everyday he would tell me “No push Ben. No push Ella. No push anybody,” and it seemed to stick. If he hit / pushed me or his dad we would just do a stern face and turn away saying “no thank you, no hitting mummy.” Funnily enough he was really gentle with babies.

With his baby sibling have you tried you and eldest as a team? Give a big dramatic sigh, “Oh no, your brother / our baby’s crying again, do you think he has another wet nappy? If you fetch the mat and the wipes I’ll get his clothes off. When we’ve got him sorted shall we have a biscuit?”

That is really interesting about the cuddling and then lashing out as that is one of the things he does.

As for the baby sibling. He has no interest in helping with anything. He doesn't want to grab wipes or nappies or clothes etc. But I think a lot of that is because he isnt a fan of having his nappy done or clothes put on himself. Baby also cries during it which he hates. I do talk to him a lot about baby brother needing changing or feeding and thats why he is crying. Or if hes crying but I am busy with my toddler I will talk to baby and tell him he has to wait (I cant take too long otherwise baby is sick from crying).

My toddler isnt one for following instructions so getting him involved is very hard!

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ThePoisedOpalBird · 27/05/2026 21:51

andana · 27/05/2026 21:43

Also start teaching him safe active play to get the excess energy out, some boys need it! We run races before bath, tickle fights, he play wrestles with his dad, lots of jumping.

Edited

We do lots of rough play (I do worry if this is why he does it at nursery) but he loves it and its the ultimate way we connect!

He wont run races yet but I cant wait until he does!

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Jimmyneutronsforehead · 27/05/2026 21:50

ThePoisedOpalBird · 27/05/2026 21:43

We do a lot of roughousing when I can (loves to be thrown around and onto sofa) lots of big cuddles, he loves it if you lay on him 🙈, we spent the weekend out at a nature park place and Sunday at the beach.

But honestly I think he needs more physical stimulation as he is like a wired jack in the box who isn't quite sure how to use its springs!

So we all have 8 senses and we all have needs related to those senses.

Touch
Taste
Sight
Sound
Smell
Interoception- what's happening inside, are we too hot, cold, hungry, thirsty, in pain, need the bathroom, overstimulated, understimulated
Proprioception- this is our interaction with the space around us and pressure, some people crave deep pressure input through roughhousing and literally need it to regulate, some can't cope with deep pressure and need light touch, some find light touch physically painful, and sometimes it's all of them at the same time and it can be confusing
Vestibular- this is our balance sense. Some people turn their head wrong and go dizzy and then you've got some people who can go straight from doing waltzers level spinning to walking in a straight line in seconds.

We all have to meet these needs. They may be hyperactive needs or hypoactive needs.

Nursery really should (and can) do a sensory diet plan for your son so they understand his needs better. Maybe they can incorporate it as a proactive method of regulation rather than a reactive method of regulation to prevent instances of hitting or biting.