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AIBU to keep my two-year-old at nursery when displaying increasing aggressive behaviour?

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ThePoisedOpalBird · 27/05/2026 18:18

I'm partly posting here as it gets more replies and also because i'm not sure whats best.

I have a lovely 2 year old who has been put on a ABC review due to aggressive behaviour. So far he has been on it a week and it seems to have got worse! He has had around 12 incidents in the space of a week ranging from pushing kids down to trying to hit with items or just straight out smacking them in the face. So far nursery have not identified a single trigger!

He is casually walking up to these kids seemingly happy and then hurting them. There is no overwhelming crying or other kids taking his toys etc. He just seems to walk up to them, hurt them, smile and now runs away from his teachers (I assume as he now knows they are going to remove him from the situation and do a different activity with him.

I'm at a loss of how nursery are going to tackle this when there is seemingly no cause? Could he just be bored?

I guess my aibu is do I let nursery continue to try and work this out and hopefully he doesn't end up being kicked out. Or would it be more reasonable to remove him and keep him at home?

Any advice greatly appreciated!

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Cannedlaughter · 28/05/2026 00:59

they seem to be focusing on fast triggers and not looking at slow triggers as well.
a slow trigger is a build up over time. For instance if you’re tired, feeling unwell, find lots of noise or being in a crowded place a bit annoying. The slow triggers simmer and then something small happens and a behaviour of concern happens or the slow triggers simmer build up causing a behaviour of concern. Is a slow trigger feeling overwhelmed with changes at home so he is feeling dysregulated.
Also getting taken away may be a reason. He needs space and that’s how he gets it.
under stimulated needs support to do some more taxing play.
wanting one to one attention.
not sure what to do next.
is a child in the room making a noise he dislikes.

ThePoisedOpalBird · 28/05/2026 00:56

Excited101 · 28/05/2026 00:45

There might be deep communicative reasons behind the behaviour, but it might just be fun for him! The other children probably react in an exciting way when he does it, and so do the staff. For young children, it doesn’t matter if it’s negative rather than positive attention- attention is attention.

definitely try and give some 1:1 time with him, regularly. But this may well be something that will improve with time as he matures. Nursery must make sure they’re not encouraging it. Might be worth considering a childminder.

We did consider a childminder but there is only 2 and both are full with extremely long waiting lists. If nursery doesn't end up being the right place for him I will pull him out and keep him home. But I will let nursery finish their ABC forms and see what they say and go from there. (Whilst trying to worl on the behaviour at home of course)

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ThePoisedOpalBird · 28/05/2026 00:54

Besafeeatcake · 28/05/2026 00:41

I actually find this post scary.

Your two year old child is randomly seeking out other children, your baby and adults to hurt while smiling before and after. This sounds like callous unemotional behaviour which is a real thing even in two year olds. You won’t find a trigger and thats the scary part.

You are enabling his behaviour by the rough play but won’t stop as it’s the only thing he really engages with. Are you happy your child’s socialisation with you is essentially physical fighting?

You go on a lot about what a wonderful boy he is and he may act like it some of the time but he actively seeks to hurt others. He isn’t wonderful if he does this - his behaviour isn’t at all normal.

On a secondary note breastfeeding your three month old every hour is pretty excessive. At this point it should be every 3-4 hours. Someone else can hold the baby between feeds. Spend time with your oldest child and please understand what is really going on here.

I have no issues with play fighting with my son. I did it with my dad when I was younger. Being thrown onto the sofa and spun around was alwayd great fun. BUT if it is causing an issue I will look for other ways to meet his needs.

Nursery are the ones saying how lovely he is. How sweet he is with the other kids hugging, kissing, checking if they are okay when they are sad, playing with them. Yes it is a concern he is seeking to push and shove but I am not sure he really understands that he is hurting them.

To start with there is nobody else to hold the baby between feeds as it is just me and the boys most of the time. Baby also feeds often every hour sometimes every 2. I have been told by GP, HV and lactation consultant that this is 100% correct and I should not be witholding the breast even if its just he needs comfort.

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ThePoisedOpalBird · 28/05/2026 00:49

MeetMeOnTheCorner · 28/05/2026 00:39

@ThePoisedOpalBird So your baby died what he wants too! Every hour? Why? Substitute a bottle. Stop him sleeping on you? Why does he need this? I’d want a life and your DS is probably jealous.

Say No with purpose. Not a meek “no darling” . Try an angry face. Raise your voice. Make him take notice. Does he find nursery staff a joke too? I did occasionally, very occasionally, make absolutely certain my DDs knew I was very displeased. They didn’t dare laugh at that moment. They were shocked I was cross. Shock him! I really dislike dc who laugh at adults. Start to mean what you say and don’t let him tip toys everywhere!

He is bloody 3 months old! No I am not introducing a bottle yet as we have only just had a second tongue tie cutting and are trying to improve his latch. I feed him often every hour as he cries for a feed. I am not saying no to a 3 month old crying because he is hungry or needs comfort. He is 3 months old for gods sake. And yes he sleeps on me otherwise he screams and pukes everywhere and then guess what he has to feed again as he has puked and my poor toddler gets overstimulated and angry because he doesnt like the crying! So whilst my baby is literally a baby who cannot currently do anything for himself yes I will give him whatever he needs. It is a stage that will pass.

He gets told No in a very stern loud tone! He does not care. Nursery redirect they dont shout or anything or do timeouts etc.

I will do everything I can to improve his behaviour and some of the replies on this thread have been very helpful

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Excited101 · 28/05/2026 00:45

There might be deep communicative reasons behind the behaviour, but it might just be fun for him! The other children probably react in an exciting way when he does it, and so do the staff. For young children, it doesn’t matter if it’s negative rather than positive attention- attention is attention.

definitely try and give some 1:1 time with him, regularly. But this may well be something that will improve with time as he matures. Nursery must make sure they’re not encouraging it. Might be worth considering a childminder.

Besafeeatcake · 28/05/2026 00:41

I actually find this post scary.

Your two year old child is randomly seeking out other children, your baby and adults to hurt while smiling before and after. This sounds like callous unemotional behaviour which is a real thing even in two year olds. You won’t find a trigger and thats the scary part.

You are enabling his behaviour by the rough play but won’t stop as it’s the only thing he really engages with. Are you happy your child’s socialisation with you is essentially physical fighting?

You go on a lot about what a wonderful boy he is and he may act like it some of the time but he actively seeks to hurt others. He isn’t wonderful if he does this - his behaviour isn’t at all normal.

On a secondary note breastfeeding your three month old every hour is pretty excessive. At this point it should be every 3-4 hours. Someone else can hold the baby between feeds. Spend time with your oldest child and please understand what is really going on here.

MeetMeOnTheCorner · 28/05/2026 00:39

@ThePoisedOpalBird So your baby died what he wants too! Every hour? Why? Substitute a bottle. Stop him sleeping on you? Why does he need this? I’d want a life and your DS is probably jealous.

Say No with purpose. Not a meek “no darling” . Try an angry face. Raise your voice. Make him take notice. Does he find nursery staff a joke too? I did occasionally, very occasionally, make absolutely certain my DDs knew I was very displeased. They didn’t dare laugh at that moment. They were shocked I was cross. Shock him! I really dislike dc who laugh at adults. Start to mean what you say and don’t let him tip toys everywhere!

ThePoisedOpalBird · 28/05/2026 00:34

Thank you for all the replies. Lots of helpful comments thank you :)

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ThePoisedOpalBird · 28/05/2026 00:31

mathanxiety · 28/05/2026 00:22

They are trying to break it to you very gently that he is a handful.

The communication technique/ approach they are using is called sandwiching.

Sandwiching is supposed to have the effect of not sending you home in tears, despairing of your child, feeling that your parenting is being criticized, and getting your back up in defensive mode.

It seems that it has just had the effect of confusing you.

Well yes when they are telling me how much they love having him, how lovely he is with the other kids 90% of the time hugging and kissing and playing. And that the hitting is developmentally normal and we will find a trigger and way to help him.

None of that in the slightest gives me any indication that they would like him removed.

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mathanxiety · 28/05/2026 00:22

ThePoisedOpalBird · 27/05/2026 23:31

Because nursery have assured me that it is okay and developmentally normal and they want to use the plan to find the triggers.

They say every handover how much they love having him there. If they gave any indication they wanted him out or that they thought it wasn't safe to have him there I would pull him out. But when they are telling me they are love having him there and how lovely he is most of the time and what a great day he is had, I am reluctant to remove him before nursery deem it isn't the right environment for him and cause more issues for him.

I have no issues parenting my 2 children. But when nursery are having multiple issues a day whereas I only have a couple a week (and mine usually have identifiable triggers) it is very hard to help nursery elimated a problem I don't experience to the same level they do.

They are trying to break it to you very gently that he is a handful.

The communication technique/ approach they are using is called sandwiching.

Sandwiching is supposed to have the effect of not sending you home in tears, despairing of your child, feeling that your parenting is being criticized, and getting your back up in defensive mode.

It seems that it has just had the effect of confusing you.

ThePoisedOpalBird · 28/05/2026 00:18

mathanxiety · 28/05/2026 00:14

Dancing, jumping on a toddler trampoline, chasing bubbles, etc.
Get him out to a playground to work off his energy there.
Buy him a really big stuffed animal to wrestle/ snuggle with.
Redirect him to 'help' with housework.
If you have outdoor space, get a sprinkler to run around in.
Introduce gentle, snuggly closeness to replace the boisterous contact.

Warmer weather is on its way. Using up energy outdoors will enable you to establish a difference between 'I door' and 'outdoor' energy just as you have indoor and outdoor voices.

As a side note, the only children I've seen in early years settings who persistently chose physicality over words in their I traction with peers were children who had a speech lag and other socio emotional development delays, as well as those whose pare to permitted a lot of rough play at home.

Edited

I appreciate the suggestions. I will 100% give a try although we do most of this stuff already except he doesnt dance and doesn't really enjoy the playground.

I'm not sure they will give him the same happiness that the rough play does but I will try to make it as fun as I can for him.

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ThePoisedOpalBird · 28/05/2026 00:15

MeetMeOnTheCorner · 28/05/2026 00:01

@ThePoisedOpalBird Of course you can leave the baby for an hour or so! Why is baby attached to you 24:7? The baby doesn’t need feeding every hour! Leave the baby with DH. Nothing will happen to him.

Your 2 year old isn’t great with other dc is he? Throws toys around - but you let him do it ! Do you ever correct him? Books won’t help. You need to accept this behaviour every day isn’t normal and you need to start talking to him in plain simple words to correct him. So “no biting”, “no throwing” etc. Repeat No and make sure he knows you are displeased. No child deserves to be hurt by him and you have to be far more determined to deal with this. Maybe grandad could assist as he’s been bitten! Did grandad care?

Well baby does often feed every hour or so. I feed fully on demand. He also sleeps on me and next to me and feeds to sleep and wont be put down into bouncers, swings or cots so no it isnt super easy to just leave him. But I will try taking my toddler to the park around the corner on his dads day off next week that way if my partner cant settle him or he needs a feed sooner he can get to me easily. In a few months it will be easier to leave him for an hour or so.

Of course I correct him! He is actually generally very good with other kids. We went to a big soft play party yesterday and he was the youngest there and played beautifully for an hour and a half.

We correct him when he throws toys (I don't have an issue with him dumping out toys at home as thats how he plays) but he isnt allowed to just throw toys around he gets told No and the toy gets removed or we leave the place we are playing at. He gets told no biting. But he finds the word no funny. So I can tell him No until I am blue in the face but it has no impact on him.

If you have any suggestions on how to make him actually respect the word no please feel free.

But besides removing toys when he throws them, saying no and leaving places when he hurts people. I don't really know what to do. The consequences for a 2 year old are very limited!

He gets told off if he bites grandad and he just laughs and my dad is scary when he says no but my toddler doesn't really care.

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mathanxiety · 28/05/2026 00:14

ThePoisedOpalBird · 28/05/2026 00:06

Thank you so much for the input! Any advice for what we can replace rough play with? It makes up a large portion of our play as its the only thing he really engages with fully and enjoys.

Dancing, jumping on a toddler trampoline, chasing bubbles, etc.
Get him out to a playground to work off his energy there.
Buy him a really big stuffed animal to wrestle/ snuggle with.
Redirect him to 'help' with housework.
If you have outdoor space, get a sprinkler to run around in.
Introduce gentle, snuggly closeness to replace the boisterous contact.

Warmer weather is on its way. Using up energy outdoors will enable you to establish a difference between 'I door' and 'outdoor' energy just as you have indoor and outdoor voices.

As a side note, the only children I've seen in early years settings who persistently chose physicality over words in their I traction with peers were children who had a speech lag and other socio emotional development delays, as well as those whose pare to permitted a lot of rough play at home.

mathanxiety · 28/05/2026 00:07

You should take him out.

Nurseries can be overwhelming environments for some toddlers - lots of noise and activity going on. Sensory overload can happen.

There may also be kids in the room whose behaviour he is copying. He may have seen a push, smack, bite, etc. It's not always clear to toddlers that these behaviours are big No-Nos, even when a teacher/ staff member quicjly responds to the offender with a loud No/ We use gentle hands/ Hands are for playing, not hitting, etc.

ThePoisedOpalBird · 28/05/2026 00:06

ItallwentwrongwhenBowieleft · 28/05/2026 00:00

I say this very gently OP but
I have been an Early years teacher & SENCO for 27yrs and it has never been my experience that 2 yr olds regularly hurt other children at nursery, unless due to a dispute over a toy etc & that is usually only in the very early days of nursery until they learn that’s not acceptable.
As he smiles before & after an incident it may be that it’s the sensory stimulation of the hurt children’s reactions, crying etc, that he’s seeking, he’s not angry & intentionally trying to hurt them.
I am a little concerned about his refusing to walk, resisting getting dressed & not following instructions, even at nursery, or when playing games etc alongside the hitting & biting.
It’s unusual for 2yr olds to hurt grandparents & baby siblings OP.
I would cut down on the play fighting, I don’t think it’s causing it but may be confusing for him, he may not be old enough to know that he can ‘fight’ with Dad but not other people.
We can usually tell which children do a lot of play fighting at home, in our experience they are the ones more likely to engage in hitting etc during disagreements with other children or just in play.
You’re doing the right thing working closely with nursery, they sound like they’re trying hard to find out why these incidents keep happening.
They are the experts & will support you & your little boy.
I hope things settle down soon.

Thank you so much for the input! Any advice for what we can replace rough play with? It makes up a large portion of our play as its the only thing he really engages with fully and enjoys.

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MeetMeOnTheCorner · 28/05/2026 00:01

@ThePoisedOpalBird Of course you can leave the baby for an hour or so! Why is baby attached to you 24:7? The baby doesn’t need feeding every hour! Leave the baby with DH. Nothing will happen to him.

Your 2 year old isn’t great with other dc is he? Throws toys around - but you let him do it ! Do you ever correct him? Books won’t help. You need to accept this behaviour every day isn’t normal and you need to start talking to him in plain simple words to correct him. So “no biting”, “no throwing” etc. Repeat No and make sure he knows you are displeased. No child deserves to be hurt by him and you have to be far more determined to deal with this. Maybe grandad could assist as he’s been bitten! Did grandad care?

ItallwentwrongwhenBowieleft · 28/05/2026 00:00

I say this very gently OP but
I have been an Early years teacher & SENCO for 27yrs and it has never been my experience that 2 yr olds regularly hurt other children at nursery, unless due to a dispute over a toy etc & that is usually only in the very early days of nursery until they learn that’s not acceptable.
As he smiles before & after an incident it may be that it’s the sensory stimulation of the hurt children’s reactions, crying etc, that he’s seeking, he’s not angry & intentionally trying to hurt them.
I am a little concerned about his refusing to walk, resisting getting dressed & not following instructions, even at nursery, or when playing games etc alongside the hitting & biting.
It’s unusual for 2yr olds to hurt grandparents & baby siblings OP.
I would cut down on the play fighting, I don’t think it’s causing it but may be confusing for him, he may not be old enough to know that he can ‘fight’ with Dad but not other people.
We can usually tell which children do a lot of play fighting at home, in our experience they are the ones more likely to engage in hitting etc during disagreements with other children or just in play.
You’re doing the right thing working closely with nursery, they sound like they’re trying hard to find out why these incidents keep happening.
They are the experts & will support you & your little boy.
I hope things settle down soon.

ThePoisedOpalBird · 27/05/2026 23:34

Sweepyed · 27/05/2026 23:28

Perhaps signs of what may later be adhd?
How is his sleep/food etc?
It may well be worsened by having a needy younger sibling.
Had he been going long when baby was born?

As my eldest started when baby was only 2 months. So probably felt pushed out. Mine had a lot of issues at nursery but not particularly physical. That started at reception at 4.

But if they know yours is prone to this behaviour at moment they need to be intercepting.

Mine is autistic and adhd.

Sleep is amazing. When he is at home he has a 3-4 hour nap plus 10-12 hours of nightime sleep! Nursery he naps usually an hour - an hour and a half.

He eats pretty well. Typical toddler sometimes doesn't want to eat what hes offered.

Yeah hes been at nursery since he was 1. Moved to the toddler room when he was 22 months.

They are trying to intercept as much as possible but because he isnt angry when he does it I think its hard for them to always foresee as its a bit random.

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ThePoisedOpalBird · 27/05/2026 23:31

Bookbears · 27/05/2026 23:25

Why can’t you remove him as of tomorrow and have the conversation with nursery next week? Don’t send him in for another 3 weeks knowing he will be hurting other children. How would you feel if the shoe was on the other foot and it was your son constantly being attacked?

I can see you have a young baby and it’s difficult but your son also needs parenting. You chose to have two kids, so no matter how exhausted you may be, you have to show up for both of them.

Because nursery have assured me that it is okay and developmentally normal and they want to use the plan to find the triggers.

They say every handover how much they love having him there. If they gave any indication they wanted him out or that they thought it wasn't safe to have him there I would pull him out. But when they are telling me they are love having him there and how lovely he is most of the time and what a great day he is had, I am reluctant to remove him before nursery deem it isn't the right environment for him and cause more issues for him.

I have no issues parenting my 2 children. But when nursery are having multiple issues a day whereas I only have a couple a week (and mine usually have identifiable triggers) it is very hard to help nursery elimated a problem I don't experience to the same level they do.

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Sweepyed · 27/05/2026 23:28

Perhaps signs of what may later be adhd?
How is his sleep/food etc?
It may well be worsened by having a needy younger sibling.
Had he been going long when baby was born?

As my eldest started when baby was only 2 months. So probably felt pushed out. Mine had a lot of issues at nursery but not particularly physical. That started at reception at 4.

But if they know yours is prone to this behaviour at moment they need to be intercepting.

Mine is autistic and adhd.

ThePoisedOpalBird · 27/05/2026 23:26

Bookbears · 27/05/2026 23:18

Sorry OP but this is a really selfish mindset to have! Your child, YOUR child, is actively hurting several children a day and you think is acceptable to keep sending him in so he socialises? One or two incidents, I would completely agree, but this is so much more than that. He needs to be removed until he is a bit older. Stop making excuses for his behaviour, most 2 year olds do not behave like this to the extent yours has. He certainly isn't lacking socialisation at nursery and other children do not deserve to be your sons punching bags while he figures his communication issues out. That’s for you to help him do as a parent, in a safe and controlled way which a nursery cannot provide. I wouldn’t be able to sleep at night knowing my son was going to physically attack multiple children the next day. It’s shocking actually.

I guess from my point of view if nursery deemed him to be a serious risk of seriously hurting someone they wouldn't be happy waiting another 3 weeks to sit down and have a meeting about the behaviour.

They have said at every handover this week how lovely and funny and kind and loving he is (outside of these incidents) they havent given any indication they think he isn't coping or needs removing. Infact they keep assuring me it is okay and developmentally normal and we will find a trigger/solution.

If nursery said they wanted him removed or even hinted they thought he wasn't coping I wouldn't hesitate to pull him out. But when nursery are assuring me its okay and a phase and we will work out a plan its difficult to make the decision that goes against that as the last thing I want to do is cause more issues with his communication and socialisation.

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Bookbears · 27/05/2026 23:25

ThePoisedOpalBird · 27/05/2026 23:10

I really appreciate your perspective as another parent from the other side of it.

I think based on the replies on here I will let nursery continue with the ABC review for the next 3 weeks and then see where it is at. As they seem to suffer with the random aggression far more than we do at home I am hoping they might have more oppportunity to correct it (ontop of us trying to teach him at home with books etc)

But your opinion is really helpful for when we have the meeting with nursery in a few weeks.

Why can’t you remove him as of tomorrow and have the conversation with nursery next week? Don’t send him in for another 3 weeks knowing he will be hurting other children. How would you feel if the shoe was on the other foot and it was your son constantly being attacked?

I can see you have a young baby and it’s difficult but your son also needs parenting. You chose to have two kids, so no matter how exhausted you may be, you have to show up for both of them.

Bookbears · 27/05/2026 23:18

ThePoisedOpalBird · 27/05/2026 22:12

The thing that worries me with taking him out is the lack of socialisation impacting his communication even more. I don't have friends and i'm no good at toddler groups (we also only have 1 around us) so I am reluctant to remove him incase it causes even more issues further down the line.

Of course if he gets kicked out I don't have a choice but I don't want to personally make the call to pull him out and then it causes loads of issues when he starts school because he hasn't had to interactions to develop his social skills and he isn't going to learn them from me as I severely lack them!

Sorry OP but this is a really selfish mindset to have! Your child, YOUR child, is actively hurting several children a day and you think is acceptable to keep sending him in so he socialises? One or two incidents, I would completely agree, but this is so much more than that. He needs to be removed until he is a bit older. Stop making excuses for his behaviour, most 2 year olds do not behave like this to the extent yours has. He certainly isn't lacking socialisation at nursery and other children do not deserve to be your sons punching bags while he figures his communication issues out. That’s for you to help him do as a parent, in a safe and controlled way which a nursery cannot provide. I wouldn’t be able to sleep at night knowing my son was going to physically attack multiple children the next day. It’s shocking actually.

ThePoisedOpalBird · 27/05/2026 23:10

Bookbears · 27/05/2026 23:02

I’m begging you, remove him until a suitable solution is found.

My son was pushed over by a child like yours at nursery, he had severe concussion and nearly died because of it. Violence is not a joke in these settings. Nursery staff have so many other children to look after, they can’t keep an eye on your child all the time and if there is nothing obviously triggering him, that makes it impossible to know when he is going to attack another child. It’s not fair on the other children or the other parents who may have no choice but to send their kids in, knowing they may get hurt. It’s also not fair on the nursery staff who will most definitely be having to deal with very angry parents who don’t understand why they are not protecting their children.

I really appreciate your perspective as another parent from the other side of it.

I think based on the replies on here I will let nursery continue with the ABC review for the next 3 weeks and then see where it is at. As they seem to suffer with the random aggression far more than we do at home I am hoping they might have more oppportunity to correct it (ontop of us trying to teach him at home with books etc)

But your opinion is really helpful for when we have the meeting with nursery in a few weeks.

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Bookbears · 27/05/2026 23:02

I’m begging you, remove him until a suitable solution is found.

My son was pushed over by a child like yours at nursery, he had severe concussion and nearly died because of it. Violence is not a joke in these settings. Nursery staff have so many other children to look after, they can’t keep an eye on your child all the time and if there is nothing obviously triggering him, that makes it impossible to know when he is going to attack another child. It’s not fair on the other children or the other parents who may have no choice but to send their kids in, knowing they may get hurt. It’s also not fair on the nursery staff who will most definitely be having to deal with very angry parents who don’t understand why they are not protecting their children.