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to think it is acceptable to smack someone if they touch your body, even if they have dementia? Part 2

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haleey · 27/05/2026 17:00

Continuing from previous thread:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5534178-to-think-it-is-acceptable-to-smack-someone-if-they-touch-your-body-even-if-they-have-dementia

I visit my grandad in a care home regularly and sometimes male residents will touch women unexpectedly. I’ve had my waist touched, boobs grabbed and one man touched my privates while smiling at me. I know they are ill and confused, but honestly I think people act as though women are supposed to just tolerate it because “they can’t help it”.

Part of this for me is that I have been assaulted before, so my reflex when someone suddenly touches me unexpectedly is to hit out before I even properly think. It is an automatic panic response.

Recently one resident suddenly grabbed me and I instinctively smacked his hand away. One of the staff immediately told me off and said “he can’t help it”. I understand that dementia affects behaviour and judgement, but I found it upsetting that the focus instantly became about him rather than acknowledging that I had just been touched without consent and panicked.

I’m not talking about beating vulnerable elderly people or deliberately hurting confused residents. But I also don’t think women should be expected to quietly accept unwanted touching because the person is elderly or cognitively impaired.

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I visit my grandad in a care home regularly and sometimes male residents will touch women unexpectedly. I’ve had my waist touched, boobs grabbed and o...

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OP posts:
Getmeacoffeenow · 27/05/2026 17:38

TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 27/05/2026 17:18

As support worker I think the blame lies with the care provider.

Behaviour like this could be reduced with a bit of forward thinking - more support, an extra support worker, avoiding busy areas and working out the trigger for their behaviour.

Just because someone has a learning disability it doesn’t mean you have to give up your own autonomy.

Holding up your hands with a loud ‘NO’ should stop the behaviour.

However, you have the right to protect yourself. If your instinct is to slap their hand away then that’s what you do.

How often are women assaulted and asked ‘did you fight back’? That’s what I was asked when I was attacked. I’m not the only one.

Agree with all of this!

WhatNoRaisins · 27/05/2026 17:35

For me this whole thing boils down to what can we realistically expect from untrained people who are unexpectedly put into difficult situations?

I don't think the swatting an offending hand reaction is even that unusual.

MissMoneyFairy · 27/05/2026 17:28

haleey · 27/05/2026 17:27

The other one reached the maximum number of posts.

Really, how many?

haleey · 27/05/2026 17:27

HoraceCope · 27/05/2026 17:07

why are there 2 threads?

The other one reached the maximum number of posts.

OP posts:
MissMoneyFairy · 27/05/2026 17:19

HoraceCope · 27/05/2026 17:07

why are there 2 threads?

Maybe hoping for different responses

PropertyD · 27/05/2026 17:18

I would be pushing them away and telling them off. My DF was in a care home and some of the male residents would make a beeline for me being a visitor. One chap I really tried to avoid as he tried a couple of times to grab me. The person who grabbed by boobs was told not to do it!

What else are you meant to do? Let them grope you, No staff around although I did speak to the Manager and she arranged that I meet DF in his room and lock the door! One chap keep banging on the door and I just ignored it.

TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 27/05/2026 17:18

As support worker I think the blame lies with the care provider.

Behaviour like this could be reduced with a bit of forward thinking - more support, an extra support worker, avoiding busy areas and working out the trigger for their behaviour.

Just because someone has a learning disability it doesn’t mean you have to give up your own autonomy.

Holding up your hands with a loud ‘NO’ should stop the behaviour.

However, you have the right to protect yourself. If your instinct is to slap their hand away then that’s what you do.

How often are women assaulted and asked ‘did you fight back’? That’s what I was asked when I was attacked. I’m not the only one.

HoraceCope · 27/05/2026 17:17

and why women in particular @haleey

HoraceCope · 27/05/2026 17:17

plasticplate · 27/05/2026 17:12

No one is expecting you to quietly accept it but there are ways of dealing with it without hitting a vulnerable person.

absolutely

plasticplate · 27/05/2026 17:12

No one is expecting you to quietly accept it but there are ways of dealing with it without hitting a vulnerable person.

saveforthat · 27/05/2026 17:10

HoraceCope · 27/05/2026 17:07

would you smack a person with learning disabilities?

I would if they touched me inappropriately.

HoraceCope · 27/05/2026 17:07

why are there 2 threads?

HoraceCope · 27/05/2026 17:07

would you smack a person with learning disabilities?