If you are Reform are you ok with this repulsive man potentially becoming an MP and representing women in parliament?

saying that women lie about being raped when they want an abortion

He quite clearly did not say that.

that women who have abortions are “slags”

Is that a direct quote?

People are perfectly entitled to their views on abortion, particularly on time limits. However, saying that women lie about being raped when they want an abortion, or that women who have abortions are “slags” is completely unacceptable.

Burnham is a huge advocate for tackling child poverty.

The ideas about his spending plans came almost single handedly from The Telegraph. But again those views are not especially left wing.

As a left wing Labour voter I can assure you Burnham is a moderate. I like him but he is way to the right of me.

People who are fed up of Labour after barely giving them a chance were going to be 'fed up' no matter what imo.

One more Reform MP paves its way to a government.

I think Farage has shown himself to be an even more despicable man over the last couple of days. You wouldn't ever get Burnham inciting riots.

Not necessarily, only if they vote for him.

There being (what a person feels to be) no decent option is a reflection on the candidates and the parties who put them up for election, not the voters.

I was responding to the previous post which stated people are sick of Labour (very much so), and yes, I don't like Burnham's policies, or the way he has has manoeuvred himself to try to be PM. And I disagree his views are moderate, labour are already getting us way to far into debt as a country, and rather than tackle that, he wants to make it even worse, leaving our children with a huge debt. And I worry about him potentially calling an election and Reform getting in. One reform MP is far better than a total Reform government.

I imagine turnout will actually be extremely high. It’s a very close two horse race. I’d crawl on my hands and knees to vote if I lived in Makerfield.

Oh, come on. Burnham has perfectly moderate views. You just don't like them. He isn't even on the left of the party. I presume the Lib Dem also has moderate views.

I can imagine that turn out will be pretty low, there are no decent viable options for a person with moderate views as far as I can see. So those who do vote are likely to be those with more extreme views

If what is left is Reform then I would suggest that Kenyon's views are something you'd agree with as well as Reform's.

They are showing exactly who they are, nobody can claim they don't know what they voted for.

Exactly.people are sick of Labour and don't want to vote Tory. The Greens are dreadful. The LD's are not worth considering. What's left.

Yes, agreed.

It still can’t survive outside the womb.

Even if you agree with an anti abortion stance, his approach is profoundly stupid.
Any man who disagrees with abortion who is trying to bring about change should be urging other men to use condoms.
If he has a platform and respect of other men he could use this to persuade them that the power to resolve the issue already lies with them, without the need to fight for restrictions to women's rights.
Which even if he's OK with that, brings huge additional social problems. I mean, our society really needs women to be forced to birth children they don't want and may be ill equipped to provide for. Who will pick up that cost and responsibility does he think?
He is obviously entitled to his views on abortion. Where I take issue is that he isn't intelligent enough to have thought of the obvious way to resolve the issue, and his misogyny is blinding him.

A baby has a heartbeat at 12 weeks.

Not at 12 weeks gestation.

Not really. As I said, I'm not going to defend them. But I'm not losing sleep over them either.

Interesting.

I have a (genuine and honest) question:

let’s say I was about to die and a blood donation (or kidney donation, bone marrow donation…) from you personally was the only way to safe me. Would you support a society that would force you to make that donation to keep me alive? Would you support criminal or other kinds of legal consequences if you refused to make a life saving donation to safe a fellow human?

I am glad you agree that it is a personal view.

It's a wider aspect on how Kenyon views women, do you agree with his views on women other than abortion?

That's your opinion which you are entitled to. I disagree. I don't consider it a matter of 'bodily autonomy' as a baby is a separate human being.

Which is rude and unkind. But stills seems rather mild in comparison!!

Posts unearthed by the I Paper found that Kenyon had claimed that women who have abortions get them for “vanity purposes” and so they can “shag anyone they want”, while a separate investigation by the Independent found that Kenyon had posted that women can’t “ref, drive or give directions”, that women presenting rugby games on TV “aren’t up to the job and only there to tick a box” and that he had declared: “I’m sexist, sorry but I am.“

didn’t he also call for people to be hung and compared Covid restrictions to the 3rd Reich?

I mean, seriously. Calling somebody a cow is not comparable to claiming that women (aka women in general / all women) get abortions for vanity purposes, can’t do their jobs and are incapable of something as comparably basic as driving!

and why even bring up the greens when OP is asking about Kenyon? Who is certainly not a member of the greens?

Abortion is a personal choice, if you don't agree with it then don't have one. But you don't decide on other people's bodily autonomy.

It's one comment out of many. He shows exactly how he thinks about women.

I don't necessarily defend his comments, particularly the bad taste tweet. Agree with his general principle on abortion.

He had no idea about ANY of Reforms policies and deflected every question about it with 'I will have to have a deeper look into that'. He is as thick as two short planks

He gave a lengthy answer to the immigration question, ticking lots of boxes along the way (quite cleverly I thought). He managed to bring in a whole host of things including pub closures, HMOs, aspiring to own your own home, a thousand migrants crossing the Channel in one day, taxpayer billions, threats to national security, child safety, stresses on infrastructure - whilst also talking about 'sensible immigration', welcoming people who come to Britain legally to contribute, culture and integration...

The interviewer also said he appeared confident on local issues. Certainly he couldn't answer several questions, e.g. on the Equality Act - however, I don't think it was the car-crash interview people are suggesting.

Absolutely agree with you.

I can't understand how, in a country of many millions of people, the only ones who end up leading our country are such idiots - surely there must be better people out there than all these idiots!