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If you are Reform are you ok with this repulsive man potentially becoming an MP and representing women in parliament?

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Johnogroats · 27/05/2026 14:51

Robert Kenyon, the “cheeky local chappie” who is standing for Reform in Makerfield is on record as making some shockingly sexist comments and statements. Reform are standing by him.

Can I ask the women on here who are Reform voters if they are ok with the him remaining a candidate given what I cite below. Btw I am absolutely not, but I’m not and never will be a Reform voter for a variety of reasons.

  1. Retweeting a post about performing a (graphic description) of a sexual act on Carol Voderman.
  2. He has attacked women as being promiscuous and accused them of taking any decision to have an abortion lightly. He wrote, “reproductive rights, women's rights, they can dress it up all they want.
  3. They're deciding to kill a baby inside the womb. What they mean is they want to shag anyone they want. And if they get caught, they get a second chance and treat it as a secondary, last form of contraception.”

Either you think this is ok (don’t understand how anyone let alone a woman could be ok with it) or presumably you’ll be contacting Tice and Farage etc to drop him.

Interested in your thoughts.

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Boomer55 · 04/06/2026 16:04

There is, and always have been, a lot if repulsive MPs. From all parties. Vote for them or don’t. That’s democracy. 🤷‍♀️

BIossomtoes · 04/06/2026 15:59

Clavinova · 04/06/2026 15:42

Be careful who you talk to!

I’m not in the habit of discussing abortion rights with strangers when I’m on holiday - are you?

Bushmillsbabe · 04/06/2026 15:54

DreamyScroller · 04/06/2026 14:54

By your logic, why should any woman have the right to make laws that dictate to a "person with a penis" where he can and can't stick it?

Because, of course, we all agree he should not have the right to use it in a way that violates another person's body.

In a similar way, those who oppose abortion do not accept that a baby, which constitutes a separate human inside a woman's uterus, is "her body", but that it has rights or it's own not to be infringed upon.

I am personally against abortion in that I could never have one myself.

But I do not dare to presume to tell another women what she can do with her body. We have seen how horrifically that has been implemented in the USA, with brain dead women being kept alive as a human incubator, rape victims being forced to give birth.

Until you have been in that incredibly traumatic position of having to consider whether you need to have an abortion, I don't think you will understand just how hard it is.

Clavinova · 04/06/2026 15:42

BIossomtoes · 04/06/2026 15:37

I didn’t realise I was supposed to choose my holiday destination on the basis of its stance on abortion.

Be careful who you talk to!

BIossomtoes · 04/06/2026 15:37

Clavinova · 04/06/2026 15:04

I recall that you like to holiday in Malta - a country which has the strictest laws around abortion in western Europe I believe.

I didn’t realise I was supposed to choose my holiday destination on the basis of its stance on abortion.

Clavinova · 04/06/2026 15:04

BIossomtoes · 04/06/2026 14:40

Your views on abortion generally are pretty mind boggling. It’s an individual choice and one only women have to make.

I recall that you like to holiday in Malta - a country which has the strictest laws around abortion in western Europe I believe.

Clavinova · 04/06/2026 14:59

CurlewKate · 04/06/2026 14:43

Generally, civilized people don’t waste time taking pot shots at typos and autocorrects.

Out of interest, did you deliberately misrepresent Kenyon's reference to rape? You did it twice even after I corrected you.

DreamyScroller · 04/06/2026 14:54

BIossomtoes · 04/06/2026 14:40

Your views on abortion generally are pretty mind boggling. It’s an individual choice and one only women have to make.

By your logic, why should any woman have the right to make laws that dictate to a "person with a penis" where he can and can't stick it?

Because, of course, we all agree he should not have the right to use it in a way that violates another person's body.

In a similar way, those who oppose abortion do not accept that a baby, which constitutes a separate human inside a woman's uterus, is "her body", but that it has rights or it's own not to be infringed upon.

CurlewKate · 04/06/2026 14:43

Clavinova · 04/06/2026 12:19

I didn't. Google tells me that John McDonald recently retired as PDC Master of Ceremonies (darts commentator). Are you a fan?

Generally, civilized people don’t waste time taking pot shots at typos and autocorrects.

BIossomtoes · 04/06/2026 14:40

DreamyScroller · 04/06/2026 14:02

Why is anyone, man or woman, allowed to pass laws on what constitutes murder or harm to another person they'll never meet? Because we live in a society where we protect the rights of others even when we ourselves are not impacted. It's just mind boggling that you would ask such a stupid question.

Your views on abortion generally are pretty mind boggling. It’s an individual choice and one only women have to make.

DreamyScroller · 04/06/2026 14:02

BIossomtoes · 04/06/2026 13:56

Why would people who will never be affected by an issue have any say? You only get that if you’ve got skin in the game.

Why is anyone, man or woman, allowed to pass laws on what constitutes murder or harm to another person they'll never meet? Because we live in a society where we protect the rights of others even when we ourselves are not impacted. It's just mind boggling that you would ask such a stupid question.

Clavinova · 04/06/2026 13:59

Smeuse · 04/06/2026 13:53

https://bsky.app/profile/implausibleblog.bsky.social/post/3mnhmlt73hk2y

Beth Rigby, "Why should women in Markerfield vote for you when you said they can't drive?"

Reform's Robert Kenyon runs away

Perhaps a member of the audience will ask him later today;

This week, join Question Time for a Makerfield By-Election Special

On the panel: Andy Burnham, Michael Winstanley, Jake Austin, Sarah Wakefield, and Robert Kenyon

BIossomtoes · 04/06/2026 13:56

DreamyScroller · 04/06/2026 13:45

I disagree. Both "peoples with uteruses" and those without should be able to discuss such complex ethical matters.

Why would people who will never be affected by an issue have any say? You only get that if you’ve got skin in the game.

DreamyScroller · 04/06/2026 13:45

Sewciopath · 04/06/2026 09:43

People without a uterus still should not be able to make decisions on what happens to someone with one regardless of this.

I disagree. Both "peoples with uteruses" and those without should be able to discuss such complex ethical matters.

Clavinova · 04/06/2026 12:19

CurlewKate · 03/06/2026 20:56

Why are you bringing up John McDonald?

I didn't. Google tells me that John McDonald recently retired as PDC Master of Ceremonies (darts commentator). Are you a fan?

Bushmillsbabe · 04/06/2026 09:50

Sewciopath · 04/06/2026 09:43

People without a uterus still should not be able to make decisions on what happens to someone with one regardless of this.

Absolutely. And the concept that anyone has an abortion lightly is mistaken, I'm sure much angst goes into every decision, but for many reasons people may not be in a position where they can meet a child's needs.

We were told our daughter had severe brain damage and I was offered an abortion at 25 weeks. It was the most traumatic and distressing time of my life, and I have been through some pretty tough stuff. In no way was it an easy or flippant decision. We decided to proceed with the pregnancy, but I in no way would judge anyone in the same scenario who chose to terminate, and neither should anyone else.

Sewciopath · 04/06/2026 09:46

Bushmillsbabe · 03/06/2026 17:13

I can imagine that turn out will be pretty low, there are no decent viable options for a person with moderate views as far as I can see. So those who do vote are likely to be those with more extreme views

We had our first door knock yesterday and they said current polls are showing only 3% between Burnham and Kenyon.

Sewciopath · 04/06/2026 09:43

DreamyScroller · 03/06/2026 11:32

A baby has a heartbeat at 12 weeks.

People without a uterus still should not be able to make decisions on what happens to someone with one regardless of this.

CurlewKate · 03/06/2026 20:56

Clavinova · 03/06/2026 19:15

didn’t he also call for people to be hung

You have reminded me that John McDonnell said Esther McVey was "a stain on humanity" and also repeated a comment that she should be "lynched". He refused to apologise and was subsequently promoted to Shadow Chancellor.

Why are you bringing up John McDonald?

Iwantmybed · 03/06/2026 19:46

Unfortunately you are talking about some of the most deprived parts of Wigan, like; Platt Bridge, Abram, Worsley Mesnes. Flags all over the place, it's basically a Reform homeland.

Bushmillsbabe · 03/06/2026 19:43

Clavinova · 03/06/2026 19:15

didn’t he also call for people to be hung

You have reminded me that John McDonnell said Esther McVey was "a stain on humanity" and also repeated a comment that she should be "lynched". He refused to apologise and was subsequently promoted to Shadow Chancellor.

He also said he wished he could go back in time and kill Maggie Thatcher, and that IRA bombers should be honoured as heroes. Idolising terrorists (whether you agree with their cause or not) is something we should be shutting down, not appointing to shadow cabinet!

Clavinova · 03/06/2026 19:15

PumpkinsAndCoconuts · 03/06/2026 10:58

Which is rude and unkind. But stills seems rather mild in comparison!!

Posts unearthed by the I Paper found that Kenyon had claimed that women who have abortions get them for “vanity purposes” and so they can “shag anyone they want”, while a separate investigation by the Independent found that Kenyon had posted that women can’t “ref, drive or give directions”, that women presenting rugby games on TV “aren’t up to the job and only there to tick a box” and that he had declared: “I’m sexist, sorry but I am.“

didn’t he also call for people to be hung and compared Covid restrictions to the 3rd Reich?

I mean, seriously. Calling somebody a cow is not comparable to claiming that women (aka women in general / all women) get abortions for vanity purposes, can’t do their jobs and are incapable of something as comparably basic as driving!

and why even bring up the greens when OP is asking about Kenyon? Who is certainly not a member of the greens?

didn’t he also call for people to be hung

You have reminded me that John McDonnell said Esther McVey was "a stain on humanity" and also repeated a comment that she should be "lynched". He refused to apologise and was subsequently promoted to Shadow Chancellor.

BIossomtoes · 03/06/2026 19:10

Clavinova · 03/06/2026 19:02

saying that women lie about being raped when they want an abortion

He quite clearly did not say that.

that women who have abortions are “slags”

Is that a direct quote?

This is

One 2019 post said: “I agree totally with the anti abortion stance, it’s legalised killing of babies.” In another, the account said women seeking abortions were “deciding to kill a baby inside the womb” and described many abortions as being for “vanity purposes like unwanted pregnancies”.