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If you are Reform are you ok with this repulsive man potentially becoming an MP and representing women in parliament?

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Johnogroats · 27/05/2026 14:51

Robert Kenyon, the “cheeky local chappie” who is standing for Reform in Makerfield is on record as making some shockingly sexist comments and statements. Reform are standing by him.

Can I ask the women on here who are Reform voters if they are ok with the him remaining a candidate given what I cite below. Btw I am absolutely not, but I’m not and never will be a Reform voter for a variety of reasons.

  1. Retweeting a post about performing a (graphic description) of a sexual act on Carol Voderman.
  2. He has attacked women as being promiscuous and accused them of taking any decision to have an abortion lightly. He wrote, “reproductive rights, women's rights, they can dress it up all they want.
  3. They're deciding to kill a baby inside the womb. What they mean is they want to shag anyone they want. And if they get caught, they get a second chance and treat it as a secondary, last form of contraception.”

Either you think this is ok (don’t understand how anyone let alone a woman could be ok with it) or presumably you’ll be contacting Tice and Farage etc to drop him.

Interested in your thoughts.

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Quokkas · 28/05/2026 17:32

CurlewKate · 28/05/2026 16:20

Still no Reform supporters prepared to give an opinion on Kenyon’s suitability as a candidate?

I doubt anyone on here would admit to supporting Reform!

2dogsandabudgie · 28/05/2026 17:27

Robert Kenyon made his comments before standing for Reform, as did Wes Streeting before joining Labour. So if we say that Robert Kenyon shouldn't stand then we have to apply the same rules to WS.

CurlewKate · 28/05/2026 16:20

Still no Reform supporters prepared to give an opinion on Kenyon’s suitability as a candidate?

Rbof · 28/05/2026 12:20

WildEnergySupplier · 28/05/2026 06:31

He'll be the first left wing PM in decades

He’ll be the first PM in generations to give a shit about the North.

Piggywaspushed · 28/05/2026 09:53

Farage actually wrote to the Charity Commission to complain about the uncovering of his candidate's online posting history rather than, you know, address the issues which were uncovered...

Johnogroats · 28/05/2026 08:28

CurlewKate · 28/05/2026 05:11

Have any Reform supporters on here actually said unequivocally whether or not Kenyon should remain the candidate?

Not that I can see! Regardless of whether you support Reforms policies, I personally would have thought it was a no brainer!

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Northermcharn · 28/05/2026 08:01

Crafta · 28/05/2026 07:16

He hasn't been very left in the past, he changes with what suits him

Yes. He's a weasel I wouldn't want on my team. Or as my PM.

TheLandlordsAreFrowning · 28/05/2026 07:29

Crafta · 28/05/2026 07:16

He hasn't been very left in the past, he changes with what suits him

Very much so. This is classic Burnham. He criticised the Labour leadership for not opposing this bill. Yet when it came to the actual vote, he abstained rather than having the guts to rebel.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33608826

Skinnysaluki · 28/05/2026 07:27

Anyone of any political persuasion who tries to take abortion rights away or shame those who have one is a significant danger to women.
Any man who does this is is a man who does not believe women have the right to the bodies they live in- ie a very very dangerous man.

Crafta · 28/05/2026 07:16

WildEnergySupplier · 28/05/2026 06:31

He'll be the first left wing PM in decades

He hasn't been very left in the past, he changes with what suits him

WildEnergySupplier · 28/05/2026 06:31

UnaGatita · 27/05/2026 19:29

Why will Andy Burnham be any better than Keir Starmer? What will he bring to government that Keir doesn’t? I don’t understand the msm flurry around him.

He'll be the first left wing PM in decades

CurlewKate · 28/05/2026 05:11

Have any Reform supporters on here actually said unequivocally whether or not Kenyon should remain the candidate?

Happyjoe · 28/05/2026 00:23

BerryTwister · 28/05/2026 00:08

@Happyjoe as I said in a previous post, most Reform voters don’t know what the non-immigration policies are. And if they do know, they think it’s a sacrifice worth making, in order to get a government who will reduce immigration. You can have a go at me as much as you like, but that’s what many people think. This refusal to engage with huge swathes of the population is what will get Labour voted out. But you don’t have to believe me. You can just wait for the next general election!

So who has refused to engage? Who exactly? What? Are you blaming Labour now too and trying to pretend otherwise?

They HAVE a government who is reducing immigration right now. Numbers are down with immigration (not reported in the daily mail & express on the day, I wonder why!). Anyway, it's not being believed as you say, boats have come down for the moment, returns have stepped up, inherited backlog being worked through by employing more people.
Deals being made for other countries for the UK to help with growth. NHS waiting times are supposed to be falling. Chip chip chip away. Can't undo 14 years of mucked up tory gov in 2 years with little money, but hey, who cares about reasonable expectations? Any good news isn't believed with Labour, any bad news is taken as the truth.

No, what will get Labour voted out is a largely right wing media and people being too stupid to question it or blinded by their prejudices. Farage being an excellent oil snakesman. The state of the country that was caused by an awful tory government, brexit, covid too and now we've another war to add to the mix, through no fault of the UK but in this day and age, people expect instant results.

BerryTwister · 28/05/2026 00:08

Happyjoe · 27/05/2026 23:59

No it's not, that's untrue.
You can tell any ardent supporter of any party truth, they won't change their minds, they won't see logic, truth or whatever is in front of them. Seen it over and over again. See it on here often enough! Being snappy, kind, logical - means absolutely nothing.

And while you may now say you are reporting on what others think, perhaps make it clear that it's not the opinion of yours when written? And just because there are many people who feel that their long NHS waiting list is unfair, they are blaming the wrong people. Just because there may be many doesn't make it any less idiotic.

Again, just as those who want to vote the anti-women, Andrew Tate loving Reform because of trans issues and asylum seeker attacks, why on earth would they vote for privatising the NHS Reform while complaining about their waiting list? If they have the money in the first place to go get medical insurance, they should go get medical insurance instead of ruining it for the whole country.

As I said, people are idiotic.

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@Happyjoe as I said in a previous post, most Reform voters don’t know what the non-immigration policies are. And if they do know, they think it’s a sacrifice worth making, in order to get a government who will reduce immigration. You can have a go at me as much as you like, but that’s what many people think. This refusal to engage with huge swathes of the population is what will get Labour voted out. But you don’t have to believe me. You can just wait for the next general election!

Happyjoe · 27/05/2026 23:59

BerryTwister · 27/05/2026 23:28

@Happyjoe I’m just telling OP what a lot of people think. I’m simply quoting my observations. Being snappy and shutting down dialogue is what causes a lot of problems in the first place.

No it's not, that's untrue.
You can tell any ardent supporter of any party truth, they won't change their minds, they won't see logic, truth or whatever is in front of them. Seen it over and over again. See it on here often enough! Being snappy, kind, logical - means absolutely nothing.

And while you may now say you are reporting on what others think, perhaps make it clear that it's not the opinion of yours when written? And just because there are many people who feel that their long NHS waiting list is unfair, they are blaming the wrong people. Just because there may be many doesn't make it any less idiotic.

Again, just as those who want to vote the anti-women, Andrew Tate loving Reform because of trans issues and asylum seeker attacks, why on earth would they vote for privatising the NHS Reform while complaining about their waiting list? If they have the money in the first place to go get medical insurance, they should go get medical insurance instead of ruining it for the whole country.

As I said, people are idiotic.

BerryTwister · 27/05/2026 23:28

Happyjoe · 27/05/2026 23:09

A lot of people are idiots then, would company make you feel better?

Comments about the hospitals, nah, that's just naff. It is not the fault of asylum seekers, it's the fault of the tories who have not invested into our NHS for years.

@Happyjoe I’m just telling OP what a lot of people think. I’m simply quoting my observations. Being snappy and shutting down dialogue is what causes a lot of problems in the first place.

BerryTwister · 27/05/2026 23:12

Piggywaspushed · 27/05/2026 19:02

I don't think that is what is like Nazi Germany, must be honest.

@Piggywaspushed post WW1 Germany had to pay reparations. The country was poor and people were struggling. An unhappy population is easy to persuade that it’s all someone else’s fault. Hitler convinced a population to turn on their friends and neighbours simply because they were Jewish. In this country we have a COL crisis, we have shocking NHS delays, we have underfunded schools, we have long waits for social housing. People feel angry and hard done by. Those emotions are a perfect breeding ground for racism and hatred.

Happyjoe · 27/05/2026 23:09

BerryTwister · 27/05/2026 23:03

@Happyjoe this is the way these Reform threads always go. Lots of ranting. I haven’t stated what my view is, other than to say that I’ve never voted Reform. But my job involves a lot of contact with the public and I’m just telling OP what a lot of people think. I’d rather you didn’t call me an idiot.

A lot of people are idiots then, would company make you feel better?

Comments about the hospitals, nah, that's just naff. It is not the fault of asylum seekers, it's the fault of the tories who have not invested into our NHS for years.

BerryTwister · 27/05/2026 23:03

Happyjoe · 27/05/2026 18:24

So if the figures had been really high, I bet you would've believed them.

Honestly. The idiocy around now.
It's not the people on boats who are responsible for the state of the hospitals. You've been taken in.

@Happyjoe this is the way these Reform threads always go. Lots of ranting. I haven’t stated what my view is, other than to say that I’ve never voted Reform. But my job involves a lot of contact with the public and I’m just telling OP what a lot of people think. I’d rather you didn’t call me an idiot.

Happyjoe · 27/05/2026 23:03

TheSparklyLemonSloth · 27/05/2026 21:47

  1. There is such a thing as the law of unintended consequences. Benefits as a safety net is generally a good development but no one would argue that there aren't cases of entitlement and over-reliance on handouts. Assisted dying might be well-intentioned but there are hideous examples of it being the thin end of the wedge. I think it was in Canada where a young man with diabetes recently took the decision to end his life, to his mother's anguish. Safe access to abortion can be seen as a good thing but of course some women do use abortion as contraception, which was never the intention, and it is irresponsible. I had a shocking conversation with a 16 year old many years ago, who told me that her friend, 17 at the time, never used contraception and was about to have her second abortion. Abortion should be a last resort.
  2. Carol Vorderman had a lot of work done to make herself look (stereotypically) sexually attractive. One man then found her sexually attractive, and another one retweeted the first's comment....shock, horror!
  3. There is a big difference between SAYING something and DOING or NOT DOING something. The Reform candidate has SAID some things you may not agree with, that you think may indicate worrying attitudes towards women. Let's look at what the Tories and Labour, who have been in power, have DONE and NOT DONE, that have had real consequences for women. They HAVE allowed, for decades, mass immigration from misogynistic cultures, so that, in 21st century Britain, we are dealing with FGM, honour killings, grooming gangs.... also Labour and Conservatives HAVE NOT dealt with the invasion on the south coast, so unvetted, undocumented males, free to roam about, are able to murder (Rhiannon White, stabbed to death with a screwdriver, so her little boy is now without his mother) and rape.

OP, don't worry so much about what candidates SAY. Ther're allowed to have opinions and you can argue with them if you want. Look at what candidates/politicians DO and DON’T DO in terms of POLICY and how that affects women and girls. Conventional politicians like Starmer nd others are too polished to retweet crude sexual comments and I don't recall him criticising some of the women who seek abortions. But he didn't want a national enquiry into the grooming gangs and he's done very little about the small boats.
It's the conventional, "respectable" middle class politicians who women should be worrying about.

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He initially didn't want an enquiry because there already had been enquiries. It's not some massive cover up is it, it was about putting into place the recommendations that came from the multi-million quid enquiry that the Cons did. He was the one who asked for an audit by Casey and then changed his stance on that recommendation. This is sensible politics and not politics by the media imo before spending many more millions.

And he's done more on boats than any other party, in less time. Labour are steadily working their way through the backlog of claims. They've created the BSC so the powers that be can work together. They've changed some visa rules to be less attractive and more asylum seekers have been returned. It's a massive problem, there is no simple fix, no other party has done anything and it's been 2 years since been in office. If you have a quick solution please contact the government so they can get on with it.

dollydog5 · 27/05/2026 23:00

Locutus2000 · 27/05/2026 15:09

I'm genuinely interested in how Reform supporters justify the shocking behaviour of so many candidates.

They justify it with whataboutery relating to the other parties. Usually but not exclusively the greens. I agree wholeheartedly op but sadly most Reform voters are of the same Neanderthal mentality.

mumumental · 27/05/2026 22:58

He sounds utterly hideous.

5128gap · 27/05/2026 22:48

Clavinova · 27/05/2026 22:27

Life begins at conception. Abortion is the cowardly act of murdering a defenceless baby and not having to face up to it cause a Dr did it. They don’t want babies? Use contreception! [sic]”

I guess he is entitled to his personal views on abortion - probably best not to post them on a public forum though.

Its not just his views on abortion though, is it? Its his view that responsibility for conception lies solely with women, and that the abortions he is against are the result of women being promiscuous and irresponsible, and that women who have abortions are guilty of infanticide.
All the blame for unwanted pregnancy is placed on women. He reviles women for their sexualiry and uses extreme language to frame them as guilty of the worst of crimes.
Its apparant he isn't the sharpest tool in the shed and that his thought processes are simplistic to say the least. And the combination of lack of critical thinking and inate misogyny is pretty dangerous. Because you can't even reason with people like that.

BIossomtoes · 27/05/2026 22:40
  1. Carol Vorderman had a lot of work done to make herself look (stereotypically) sexually attractive. One man then found her sexually attractive, and another one retweeted the first's comment....shock, horror!

That absolutely disgusting, vulgar comment had nothing to do with sexual attractiveness and everything to do with humiliating her. Only a man - and a really gross one at that - would even attempt to frame it as a compliment.

Clavinova · 27/05/2026 22:37

2dogsandabudgie · 27/05/2026 22:01

He said "there would be nothing natural about Jan Moir's death if I shoved the bigoted old bag under a train". He said that in 2009 but it resurfaced in 2022. Think that may have been when his team apologised.

Apparently, he also tweeted;
"Considering starting my own vigilante org to push nasty people under trains. First up Jan Moir, followed by Geert Wilders..."