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AIBU for not thanking drivers for stopping at crossings?

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PedestrianAbuse · 26/05/2026 15:53

Just wondering if I'm the one who's behaving unusually here!

I have to cross a busy main road to get to/from my DD's nursery. There are a couple of zebra crossings on the road but a lot of drivers barrel through them without even considering stopping for pedestrians. There are also cycle lanes to cross and cyclists IME are even less likely to stop at crossings - so there's a bit going on when trying to get across this particular road, I'm always quite cautious doing it.

I've twice had drivers put their windows down and shout at me for not thanking them for stopping, and I just wondered if I'm the only person who doesn't actually think it's necessary to thank a driver for stopping for me at a zebra crossing? I mean, they are supposed to stop! I certainly don't expect it when I'm driving - I think not mowing down pedestrians is kind of a bare minimum requirement, I don't expect thanks for not breaking the law (and as a pedestrian I don't expect drivers to thank me for being sensible and not just leaping into the road at the last moment either!).

I would always thank someone who stopped to let me cross in front of them somewhere where there isn't a crossing point, but it has never occurred to me to think that someone who stops at a crossing or red light is somehow doing me a favour by letting me across the road. Is it just me who doesn't get why some drivers are so offended?

YABU - you should always thank drivers for stopping, even if they're supposed to do it
YANBU - it's just basic rules of the road that they should be following anyway, thanking them is excessive

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KittyHigham · 27/05/2026 10:36

@PedestrianAbuse I'm still fascinated to know whether you limit your 'thank yous' to those doing something voluntarily? Do you thank people who are paid to give a service? Like waiting staff, shop assistants, doctors, nurses?

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 27/05/2026 10:32

@randomchap

You asked a question on a board called Am I Being Unreasonable, and now are getting miffed that people are saying you're being unreasonable.
Did you mean to post the question on the Just Validate Me board?

100% this.

Why ask AIBU, and then give a dozen reasons why you think you AREN'T? Wink

The vast majority of posters on this thread are saying YABU @PedestrianAbuse and yet still you're like 'yeah but yeah but...' Just accept that you MAY be in the wrong.

@BuildbyNumbere

If you are so adamant you are in the right, why on earth are you asking on here? You obviously doubt yourself … are unfortunately you sound like you are being rude.

As this poster said ^ you must know on some level that you are being rude, (and are in the wrong,) or you wouldn't have felt the need to ask on here!

Two thirds of 833 voters (so far) have voted for YABU, and most people commenting are saying you are too! Hopefully this is giving you some food for thought, and you will be a bit more polite going forward.......

PedestrianAbuse · 27/05/2026 10:31

randomchap · 27/05/2026 10:16

You asked a question on a board called Am I Being Unreasonable, and now are getting miffed that people are saying you're being unreasonable.

Did you mean to post the question on the Just Valifade Me board?

I'm not miffed. I disagree with some of the people on this thread but that's fine. I wasn't expecting everyone to agree with me, I was just interested in what people thought. There's no need to project anger onto other people where it doesn't exist.

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KittyHigham · 27/05/2026 10:21

PedestrianAbuse · 27/05/2026 10:11

Yes, I do drive and I said that in my OP - and as a driver I certainly don't expect pedestrians at crossings to thank me for stopping, I see it as a minimum obligation on me as a safe driver and not something they need to thank me for. I thank other drivers for things like giving way or letting me out into traffic - often they don't have to do that, it's something that helps to keep the traffic flowing but it's not legally required. That's the distinction I make between these situations.

Do you live your whole life in such a transactional way?
Do you never consider the bigger picture of how simple actions can have a big impact?
When the car stops st the crossing, do you not look at them and acknowledge them? Do you not say thank you when a waiter puts your meal in front of you or a shop assistant hands you your purchase?
If you've paid for a service do you not still say thank you?
How sad for us all if everyone behaved like you.

LuckyHazelFox · 27/05/2026 10:19

PedestrianAbuse · 27/05/2026 10:11

Yes, I do drive and I said that in my OP - and as a driver I certainly don't expect pedestrians at crossings to thank me for stopping, I see it as a minimum obligation on me as a safe driver and not something they need to thank me for. I thank other drivers for things like giving way or letting me out into traffic - often they don't have to do that, it's something that helps to keep the traffic flowing but it's not legally required. That's the distinction I make between these situations.

It's clearly important enough for you to not bother thanking drivers stopping. Very bizarre and most drivers would think ignorant sod so crack on. Any regular driver, who you didn't thank might recognise you the next time and not bother. That's how consideration and acknowledgement work.

randomchap · 27/05/2026 10:16

PedestrianAbuse · 27/05/2026 10:09

Do you never ask questions out of curiosity? I can want to know what other people think about something whilst being comfortable with my own views. Is that not part of the purpose of an online discussion board?

You asked a question on a board called Am I Being Unreasonable, and now are getting miffed that people are saying you're being unreasonable.

Did you mean to post the question on the Just Valifade Me board?

KittyHigham · 27/05/2026 10:12

PedestrianAbuse · 27/05/2026 10:08

You sound delightful. Are you the woman who screamed at me out of her car window because I didn't bow down in thanks to her for not running me over?

And my question was literally only about cars at zebra crossings. Not any other theoretical scenario in which it might make sense to say thank you to someone. Of course I would thank someone who was right in front of me and held a door for me. I really don't understand why so many people are reaching for ways to make massive generalisations about the character of anyone who thinks a certain way about this particular issue. People are nuanced, people can in fact hold different views about different situations - not saying thank you to someone who stops at a crossing doesn't mean not saying thank you to anyone, ever. It's weird that people are struggling with that concept here.

It's not about gratitude. It's about acknowledging other people who interact (even minimally) with you. The driver saw you, acknowledged your desire to cross so stopped the car. In return you acknowledge the driver by looking at them and smiling or raising your hand.
Both are simple acts of politeness within a civilised society.

PedestrianAbuse · 27/05/2026 10:11

LuckyHazelFox · 27/05/2026 10:09

So if you see other cars driving over the crossing like dicks, surely that's even more reason to acknowledge those that don't. Do you drive - do you thank other drivers when they let you out into the main traffic? That's the similarity I'm seeing here. In both cases, neither is really obliged to be considerate.

Yes, I do drive and I said that in my OP - and as a driver I certainly don't expect pedestrians at crossings to thank me for stopping, I see it as a minimum obligation on me as a safe driver and not something they need to thank me for. I thank other drivers for things like giving way or letting me out into traffic - often they don't have to do that, it's something that helps to keep the traffic flowing but it's not legally required. That's the distinction I make between these situations.

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LuckyHazelFox · 27/05/2026 10:10

No OP, it's weird that you don't see courtesy is courtesy no matter what the situation, as is ignorance.

PedestrianAbuse · 27/05/2026 10:09

BuildbyNumbere · 27/05/2026 10:01

If you are so adamant you are in the right, why on earth are you asking on here? You obviously doubt yourself … are unfortunately you sound like you are being rude.

Do you never ask questions out of curiosity? I can want to know what other people think about something whilst being comfortable with my own views. Is that not part of the purpose of an online discussion board?

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Forrdige · 27/05/2026 10:09

It’s just etiquette, it doesn’t have to make sense. There are loads of social norms you don’t have to participate in, but why would you not just do it?

Drivers thank drivers too. It just makes things nicer. It makes people more likely to be courteous to each other in future because people like to be acknowledged.

I just don’t get why anyone would opt out of something so small that takes no effort whatsoever. You’d have to train yourself not to, as it is the norm everywhere

LuckyHazelFox · 27/05/2026 10:09

PedestrianAbuse · 27/05/2026 09:58

I'm not making excuses, I've made it clear that I don't think this requires excusing - it's just a difference in view of whether I owe a driver who doesn't run me over my gratitude for that. You don't know the road I'm talking about, I'm not going to tell you where it is for obvious reasons, but suffice to say I never feel particularly safe crossing it (I have had cars barrel straight through the crossing when I'm already halfway across the road because they're not paying attention) - so it's not an excuse, it's a statement of fact when I say that my priority is to cross safely.

And yes, many drivers don't stop - I don't see any of them thanking me for saving them from a lawsuit for running me over by not stepping onto the crossing until I'm confident I can cross safely. Why is the most vulnerable road user the one who is considered to owe a debt of thanks to the people whose actions have the potential to harm them?

So if you see other cars driving over the crossing like dicks, surely that's even more reason to acknowledge those that don't. Do you drive - do you thank other drivers when they let you out into the main traffic? That's the similarity I'm seeing here. In both cases, neither is really obliged to be considerate.

PedestrianAbuse · 27/05/2026 10:08

LadyTakingTea · 27/05/2026 09:20

Without fail, I always shout at these ignorant people, usually something like

"Thank You ,Ignorant!"

I feel it is my duty to educate people who are playing their part in dragging society down tiny bit by tiny bit.

There is no excuse. It is ignorant to not say thank you or smile or wave.

If I hold a door open and someone goes through without so much as looking at me, I say "Pardon. I didn't catch that." They usually say something along the lines of "I didn't say anything" and I reply, "Sorry. I thought you said Thank You."

If you are one of those looking for excuses not to acknowledge cars stopping or doors being held for you, then you are pig ignorant.

You can dress up an excuse any way you like, it doesn't work. Oink Oink to you.

You sound delightful. Are you the woman who screamed at me out of her car window because I didn't bow down in thanks to her for not running me over?

And my question was literally only about cars at zebra crossings. Not any other theoretical scenario in which it might make sense to say thank you to someone. Of course I would thank someone who was right in front of me and held a door for me. I really don't understand why so many people are reaching for ways to make massive generalisations about the character of anyone who thinks a certain way about this particular issue. People are nuanced, people can in fact hold different views about different situations - not saying thank you to someone who stops at a crossing doesn't mean not saying thank you to anyone, ever. It's weird that people are struggling with that concept here.

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LuckyHazelFox · 27/05/2026 10:05

Of you're too lazy to raise your hand, maybe you could smile at them. It's ignorant not to acknowledge somebody else's courtesy.

KittyHigham · 27/05/2026 10:02

Lahsania · 26/05/2026 16:04

Good god. What is the world coming to. Cars stop at zebra crossings due to being sane. You don’t have to thank them. Do they thank pedestrians for not rushing in front of them?

What do you mean? Saying thank you has always been the norm. I've lived more than 6 decades and thanking other people has been standard throughout my life including bus drivers, cars stopping etc.
It's sad that people not longer take the miniscule effort to acknowledge other people around them by smiling or raising a hand when the other person has done something like stopping at a crossing.That sort of micro contact can have a massive impact on communities.
I think it's equally sad that the driver would feel entitled to shout at a pedestrian that didn't say thank you.
In my book yabu @PedestrianAbuse but so was he.

PedestrianAbuse · 27/05/2026 10:01

UseUpTheCoins · 27/05/2026 09:18

I do reserve the right to have murderous thoughts about people who have a chat on the pavement just at the edge of the zebra crossing. So like a dutiful driver I stop and then I realise they have no intention of crossing but are just standing there for the hell of it.

This is fair, I don't think anyone should be standing on the kerb at a crossing unless they do actually want to cross!

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BuildbyNumbere · 27/05/2026 10:01

PedestrianAbuse · 27/05/2026 09:58

I'm not making excuses, I've made it clear that I don't think this requires excusing - it's just a difference in view of whether I owe a driver who doesn't run me over my gratitude for that. You don't know the road I'm talking about, I'm not going to tell you where it is for obvious reasons, but suffice to say I never feel particularly safe crossing it (I have had cars barrel straight through the crossing when I'm already halfway across the road because they're not paying attention) - so it's not an excuse, it's a statement of fact when I say that my priority is to cross safely.

And yes, many drivers don't stop - I don't see any of them thanking me for saving them from a lawsuit for running me over by not stepping onto the crossing until I'm confident I can cross safely. Why is the most vulnerable road user the one who is considered to owe a debt of thanks to the people whose actions have the potential to harm them?

If you are so adamant you are in the right, why on earth are you asking on here? You obviously doubt yourself … are unfortunately you sound like you are being rude.

PedestrianAbuse · 27/05/2026 09:58

BuildbyNumbere · 27/05/2026 07:29

I’m sure you are not that busy while crossing just to hold your hand up for 2 seconds … stop making silly excuses. As you’ve said, many drivers don’t stop, you can thank the ones that do.

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I'm not making excuses, I've made it clear that I don't think this requires excusing - it's just a difference in view of whether I owe a driver who doesn't run me over my gratitude for that. You don't know the road I'm talking about, I'm not going to tell you where it is for obvious reasons, but suffice to say I never feel particularly safe crossing it (I have had cars barrel straight through the crossing when I'm already halfway across the road because they're not paying attention) - so it's not an excuse, it's a statement of fact when I say that my priority is to cross safely.

And yes, many drivers don't stop - I don't see any of them thanking me for saving them from a lawsuit for running me over by not stepping onto the crossing until I'm confident I can cross safely. Why is the most vulnerable road user the one who is considered to owe a debt of thanks to the people whose actions have the potential to harm them?

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PedestrianAbuse · 27/05/2026 09:53

Bunnyofhope · 26/05/2026 22:47

Every time you use a zebra crossing, the driver stops out of the goodness of heart. Thank them or don't, but they are absolutely not obligated to stop for you.

I hope you don't actually think this, but if you do, I really hope you don't have a driving licence.

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PedestrianAbuse · 27/05/2026 09:52

FourSevenThree · 26/05/2026 22:06

YANBU.
I'm curious how many men do thank the drivers and whether the drivers from the OP would shout at them.

It sounds as yet another case, where it's the women's work to make men's day nicer.

Incidentally, of the two drivers who have shouted abuse at me out of the window for not thanking them, one was male and the other was female. Not sure if that tells us anything or not! I don't know whether either of them would have been confident to shout at a man crossing the road - but then, people are probably much cockier when sat safely behind the wheel of a 1.5 tonne metal box that has the potential to kill someone than they would be if they were standing right in front of them.

I also had a look this morning to see if other users of the crossings thanked drivers - I saw two other people use the crossings on that stretch of road, both men, neither thanked the people who stopped. So I'm inclined to call BS on people saying things like "absolutely everyone who I stop for always thanks me" because I actually just don't believe that's true.

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PedestrianAbuse · 27/05/2026 09:46

PeachMelbaYoghurt · 26/05/2026 21:26

" The sort of person who ignores a driver who stops, is very likely the same sort of goes through a checkout and doesn't acknowledge the checkout operator. Acting like they think the checkout operator is beneath them. The sort of person who thinks nothing of pushing in when there is a queue, and who yells at the staff if there is a bit of a delay because of a technical issue."

Well you're wrong on that. I don't always thank drivers for not breaking the law and running me over, I do sometimes, but also don't at other times. Yet I am ALWAYS polite to checkout operators, have good conversations with them, don't queue jump, and have never yelled at staff for anything.

There's a big difference in drivers not breaking the law and people working in the service industry. Really not sure why you think they are comparable scenarios in this!

Couldn't agree more with this! I've made clear that I don't think I owe drivers a debt of gratitude for not running me over, but I certainly don't go through the checkout at a supermarket without speaking to the person who serves me (that's if they've even got a proper checkout switched on and aren't sending people to those godawful self-checkouts with massive trolleys full of shopping, but that's another gripe for another day 😆). I find it so weird that there's an immediate leap from having a certain opinion on this very specific situation to "you have terrible manners in all possible situations in life".

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DappledThings · 27/05/2026 09:42

LadyTakingTea · 27/05/2026 09:20

Without fail, I always shout at these ignorant people, usually something like

"Thank You ,Ignorant!"

I feel it is my duty to educate people who are playing their part in dragging society down tiny bit by tiny bit.

There is no excuse. It is ignorant to not say thank you or smile or wave.

If I hold a door open and someone goes through without so much as looking at me, I say "Pardon. I didn't catch that." They usually say something along the lines of "I didn't say anything" and I reply, "Sorry. I thought you said Thank You."

If you are one of those looking for excuses not to acknowledge cars stopping or doors being held for you, then you are pig ignorant.

You can dress up an excuse any way you like, it doesn't work. Oink Oink to you.

Holding doors is a favour that should be thanked. As a driver I always thank people who let me through a passing place and expect thanks the other way round.

Still annoys me when thanked by pedestrians on crossings. I haven't done them a favour and thanking me implies it is a favour which implies it is optional to stop which makes it more likely next time I'm a pedestrian someone might not stop.

Every time I stop at a crossing I look away into my rear view mirror so I can't catch a thank you wave as it annoys me so much.

MsSquiz · 27/05/2026 09:40

I like to thank drivers for not mowing me/my child down, the same way I thank someone for holding a door.
it’s really not a big deal to give a little wave

PedestrianAbuse · 27/05/2026 09:38

Jellybunny98 · 26/05/2026 20:38

Because the logic is the same. You are saying the drive doesn’t deserve a thank you because they HAVE to stop. A waitress doesn’t bring your food to your table because she wants to or out of the kindness of her heart, she’s being paid to and has no choice. If the need for a “thank you” stems from someone doing something they want to do, to be kind, then neither a driver at a crossing or a waitress deserves a thank you.

Others have already made this point, but I don't see the equivalence between these two situations. The waitress isn't legally required to bring me my food - yes, it's her job, but it's not a basic law that she has to follow. I'm also in a direct face to face transaction with someone who serves me in a restaurant, hands me a parcel, makes me a coffee, whatever - they aren't several feet away inside a car. So of course when I'm dealing with people face to face or speaking directly to them I say thank you if they've rendered me some sort of service - the fundamental difference in viewpoint here is that I don't consider not running over pedestrians to be a service rendered!

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LadyTakingTea · 27/05/2026 09:20

Without fail, I always shout at these ignorant people, usually something like

"Thank You ,Ignorant!"

I feel it is my duty to educate people who are playing their part in dragging society down tiny bit by tiny bit.

There is no excuse. It is ignorant to not say thank you or smile or wave.

If I hold a door open and someone goes through without so much as looking at me, I say "Pardon. I didn't catch that." They usually say something along the lines of "I didn't say anything" and I reply, "Sorry. I thought you said Thank You."

If you are one of those looking for excuses not to acknowledge cars stopping or doors being held for you, then you are pig ignorant.

You can dress up an excuse any way you like, it doesn't work. Oink Oink to you.