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AIBU for not thanking drivers for stopping at crossings?

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PedestrianAbuse · 26/05/2026 15:53

Just wondering if I'm the one who's behaving unusually here!

I have to cross a busy main road to get to/from my DD's nursery. There are a couple of zebra crossings on the road but a lot of drivers barrel through them without even considering stopping for pedestrians. There are also cycle lanes to cross and cyclists IME are even less likely to stop at crossings - so there's a bit going on when trying to get across this particular road, I'm always quite cautious doing it.

I've twice had drivers put their windows down and shout at me for not thanking them for stopping, and I just wondered if I'm the only person who doesn't actually think it's necessary to thank a driver for stopping for me at a zebra crossing? I mean, they are supposed to stop! I certainly don't expect it when I'm driving - I think not mowing down pedestrians is kind of a bare minimum requirement, I don't expect thanks for not breaking the law (and as a pedestrian I don't expect drivers to thank me for being sensible and not just leaping into the road at the last moment either!).

I would always thank someone who stopped to let me cross in front of them somewhere where there isn't a crossing point, but it has never occurred to me to think that someone who stops at a crossing or red light is somehow doing me a favour by letting me across the road. Is it just me who doesn't get why some drivers are so offended?

YABU - you should always thank drivers for stopping, even if they're supposed to do it
YANBU - it's just basic rules of the road that they should be following anyway, thanking them is excessive

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Redpaisley · 29/05/2026 10:18

PedestrianAbuse · 26/05/2026 17:00

It's rude in your opinion. To me the whole interaction is just a totally neutral one - they stop, I cross, everyone gets on with their day. It's genuinely not something I think calls for anything more than that (again, I will repeat, I am a driver too and I couldn't care less if people thank me for stopping to let them use a zebra crossing). Personally I think shouting at someone for not saying thank you is much ruder than not saying thank you in the first place, but perhaps you think that's okay because the "offence" of not thanking them warrants it?

Why did you even ask this in AIBU when you clearly think you are not?

Livpool · 29/05/2026 10:16

I always give a little wave to say thanks

CreativeGreen · 29/05/2026 10:16

Whether they should or must or whatever, in reality mostly the consequences of them not doing so are almost always going to be minimal. So there's not much to stop a driver who's in a hurry or in a bad mood or whatever not letting you cross. And just... what is the possible downside of giving a small wave or a smile?

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 29/05/2026 10:11

PedestrianAbuse · 29/05/2026 08:08

This is what I was saying in a post further up the thread - it's pretty ludicrous that the Highway Code basically says drivers don't have to stop if the pedestrian is at the side of the road but that pedestrians shouldn't step into the road until the traffic has stopped. If everyone took that literally how would anyone ever get across the road?!

And as I said earlier, you would fail your driving test if you failed to stop for a pedestrian who was waiting at a crossing - so it's a complete contradiction.

The wording in the highway code is like that for a reason. Basically, any time you read "should" in the highway code, it means "must unless it would be unsafe to do so"

So in the case of a zebra crossing. Yes, if someone steps up to the crossing, you "should" stop for them. But if they step up to the crossing when you're only a second away from it, then you'd have to slam on the brakes to stop, which would be unsafe, as you'd likely end up with the car behind you going into the back of you.

However, if there's someone already on the crossing, then you "must" stop for them. Because even if you notice them at the last second, it'll be far more unsafe for you to hit them than you slamming on the brakes and the car behind going into the back of you.

PedestrianAbuse · 29/05/2026 10:05

Thiswasanescapeplan · 29/05/2026 10:04

15-odd pages of (occasionally slightly heated) debate on social requirements of crossing roads. We can be proud today.

🥹🇬🇧

That's what it truly means to be British. 😂

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Thiswasanescapeplan · 29/05/2026 10:04

15-odd pages of (occasionally slightly heated) debate on social requirements of crossing roads. We can be proud today.

🥹🇬🇧

PedestrianAbuse · 29/05/2026 10:04

LuckyHazelFox · 29/05/2026 09:00

How inconsiderate of you when he's doing what he's paid to do 😉. @PedestrianAbuse instead of getting irate at posters who say you are being unreasonable, why don't you take a course in etiquette. For you to still be analysing something that most people do without even thinking should be giving you food for thought. I won't hold my breath. One thing I have noticed, the minority that agree with you all have attitude problems. That says it all.

I'm not getting irate at anyone - in fact, another poster on this thread commented on how politely I was engaging with people who disagreed with me, some of whom were being pretty rude. Whereas multiple people on this thread have commented on your poor attitude. Which also says rather a lot, doesn't it?

This is a discussion board, there's a discussion going on which clearly some people are still interested in, so I'm participating in it. You are very welcome not to, you've said you wanted to hide the thread so why are you still here, other than to be rude to people?

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PedestrianAbuse · 29/05/2026 10:00

Shade17 · 29/05/2026 08:29

I think it relies on the fact that the majority of people are in fact courteous and abide by the HC. I suspect that if the law was changed, the people who don’t stop now would continue not stopping.

I think you are probably right about that!

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LuckyHazelFox · 29/05/2026 09:56

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 29/05/2026 09:46

The Highway Code says they should stop which pretty much means they have to. Whilst it is must if a pedestrian is already on it pedestrians are also advised to wait until the cars have stopped. If drivers ignored the ‘should’ stop there would be no point in the crossing as no one would ever be able to use it.

Then you don't know the difference between must and should and there is a difference. The whole reason these crossings operate is because drivers show awareness and judge when there is a need to stop. With pedestrian crossings, there is a build up of time in which to slow down and stop and for the sequence of lights to take effect. Seeing pedestrians walk towards crossing doesn't mean you must stop. It means you should but can use your judgement.

LostFuse · 29/05/2026 09:52

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 29/05/2026 09:46

The Highway Code says they should stop which pretty much means they have to. Whilst it is must if a pedestrian is already on it pedestrians are also advised to wait until the cars have stopped. If drivers ignored the ‘should’ stop there would be no point in the crossing as no one would ever be able to use it.

But not compulsory, as you stated....otherwise it would say must stop.
In reality though, it has really changed nothing compared to what it was before.

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 29/05/2026 09:46

LostFuse · 29/05/2026 08:37

No, it's not.....unless already on the crossing.

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The Highway Code says they should stop which pretty much means they have to. Whilst it is must if a pedestrian is already on it pedestrians are also advised to wait until the cars have stopped. If drivers ignored the ‘should’ stop there would be no point in the crossing as no one would ever be able to use it.

SleepingStandingUp · 29/05/2026 09:06

Shouting at you is obviously worse so it's ridiculous of them, just ignore. I do tend to put my hand up to say thanks or nod to head in acknowledgement because I think thoseare the normal social niceties that just make the world pleasanter. I'll also say thanks if you move out of my way when you're standing somewhere you shouldn't or after you've served me in a supermarket.

LuckyHazelFox · 29/05/2026 09:00

TheThirteenthFairy · 28/05/2026 08:58

When I get on a bus I thank the driver.

How inconsiderate of you when he's doing what he's paid to do 😉. @PedestrianAbuse instead of getting irate at posters who say you are being unreasonable, why don't you take a course in etiquette. For you to still be analysing something that most people do without even thinking should be giving you food for thought. I won't hold my breath. One thing I have noticed, the minority that agree with you all have attitude problems. That says it all.

LuckyHazelFox · 29/05/2026 08:55

PedestrianAbuse · 28/05/2026 20:08

@LuckyHazelFox As I said, you don't even realise how your posts read. Take a break from social media, "love", and go and patronise some people in the real world instead.

OK peach.

AntikytheraMech · 29/05/2026 08:43

There is a zebra crossing about 30 meters from where I live that I use daily a few times.
I tend to check the traffic flow before I look to cross.
The other day, I quickly looked behind me to see what was coming and carried on towards the zebra crossing.
I deliberately stayed back because there was a decent gap behind the one car that was coming.
They stopped anyway, I crossed and thanked them.
I asked the driver why they stopped, and they said they had noticed my quick glimpse behind and knew I wanted to cross. I said thank you and appreciated his thoughtful consideration for pedestrians.

LostFuse · 29/05/2026 08:37

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 28/05/2026 17:17

No it’s not. It’s compulsory to stop

No, it's not.....unless already on the crossing.

Shade17 · 29/05/2026 08:29

PedestrianAbuse · 29/05/2026 08:08

This is what I was saying in a post further up the thread - it's pretty ludicrous that the Highway Code basically says drivers don't have to stop if the pedestrian is at the side of the road but that pedestrians shouldn't step into the road until the traffic has stopped. If everyone took that literally how would anyone ever get across the road?!

And as I said earlier, you would fail your driving test if you failed to stop for a pedestrian who was waiting at a crossing - so it's a complete contradiction.

I think it relies on the fact that the majority of people are in fact courteous and abide by the HC. I suspect that if the law was changed, the people who don’t stop now would continue not stopping.

PartyQuestion30th · 29/05/2026 08:19

Sometimes I do, have a horrible crossing on way to work, often people fail to stop, and in nearly got hit by a set of ladders flying off a work van as it screeched to a stop having just noticed me. We were all very shocked.

UseUpTheCoins · 29/05/2026 08:15

LuckyHazelFox · 28/05/2026 19:05

An entrenched position? Bloody hell love you're the one analysing a simple every day transaction that is meaningless if you are courteous. I drove to Tescos today and both there and back, I gave way to pedestrians either waiting to cross or whether I could be proactive in seeing they were approaching the crossing. All times the people waved their thanks. You mentioned earlier you has been ruminating over the language used in the highway code. "Nobody is forcing you" to show common decency. If you want to keep being told you're ignorant you shouldn't have a problem as you don't think you should say thank you. That's it.

I do think it’s polite to thank a driver. As it appears do you.

But like many people these days, your politeness disappears online, as your posts, laughing emojis etc are pretty rude. Inconsistent courtesy from you it seems!

PedestrianAbuse · 29/05/2026 08:08

YourGiddyGreyHelper · 29/05/2026 07:52

I have read this as well but it seems to me to be nonsensical. Is the pedestrian supposed to play a game of chicken and just walk out in front of traffic secure in the knowledge that if they are hit by a car they have the law on their side? What's the practical difference between "should" and "must" in this case?

This is what I was saying in a post further up the thread - it's pretty ludicrous that the Highway Code basically says drivers don't have to stop if the pedestrian is at the side of the road but that pedestrians shouldn't step into the road until the traffic has stopped. If everyone took that literally how would anyone ever get across the road?!

And as I said earlier, you would fail your driving test if you failed to stop for a pedestrian who was waiting at a crossing - so it's a complete contradiction.

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PedestrianAbuse · 29/05/2026 08:05

Runssometimes · 29/05/2026 06:27

Nope. They drive by license not right and I don’t usually thank them unless they are being extra patient, eg if I had a small child with me and it took us a bit longer to cross. They are obliged to wait and in general could do with remembering they are not doing you a favour. Drivers round my way start driving when you are still on the crossing and are frankly lucky I’m not filming them and reporting them.

in road hierarchy pedestrians are most inconvenienced- we have to take circuitous routes to find safe crossings, lights sequences are stacked in favour of minimising motorists waiting time not giving adequate time for elderly or young children to cross often. So the convenience is stacked in favour of those expending least personal energy in getting around, but also those taking up more public space to do so and often polluting our air.

I’m cyclist too and always thank drivers who hang back when I give a hand signal to turn, or who allow me priority when passing on a parked up road - eg they wait if cars are parked up on their side as you would for a car rather than proceeding and squeezing me into the door zone of the cars on my side, and I’ve thanked drivers who give me plenty of space when overtaking. They should be doing that anyway but I like to thank them for their awareness of the more vulnerable road user. And it’s rare enough that people are that courteous so I like to appreciate it. I do my part by using hand signals and pulling in when I can to allow them to pass. So it’s not like I’m against being polite and friendly. But on crossings, no need.

This is a great post and I totally agree with you.

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YourGiddyGreyHelper · 29/05/2026 07:52

Balloonhearts · 26/05/2026 16:01

Technically, until you actually step onto the crossing, they are not obliged to stop for you.

I have read this as well but it seems to me to be nonsensical. Is the pedestrian supposed to play a game of chicken and just walk out in front of traffic secure in the knowledge that if they are hit by a car they have the law on their side? What's the practical difference between "should" and "must" in this case?

Shade17 · 29/05/2026 07:49

Runssometimes · 29/05/2026 06:45

@Shade17 nope. Check rule 195 of the code. It’s been updated in recent years. You MUST stop if someone is on a crossing. And you SHOULD stop if there is someone waiting to cross. And now applies to parallel crossings too for pedestrians and cyclists.

this was to reinforce the hierarchy of road users and reduce pedestrian deaths. In my area on a busy high street two people have been killed using a pedestrian crossing by drivers not paying attention and not being able to stop in time when entering the crossing.

another rule change which a lot of drivers seem unaware of is that pedestrians waiting to cross a side road that you are turning into when driving have priority and the driver should wait to let them cross.

It seems although remaining up to date with rules changes is a condition of holding a driving license, many people don’t seem to know about it.

As far as I’m aware the HC was worded that way in regards to zebra crossings before the latest changes came in. There’s still no legal requirement to stop for pedestrians waiting to cross, only if they’re already on the crossing.

LetMeGoogleThat · 29/05/2026 07:05

This is a weird one, whilst I get annoyed when I'm driving at the expectation of thanks for another car stopping, when it's my right of way at a road junction. I do feel that a little wave of thanks at a zebra is appropriate and just polite.

But I get the rage if I let a car go in front etc and they don't acknowledge it.......

EmeraldShamrock000 · 29/05/2026 07:04

I am big “Thank you” person, to the bus driver, stranger, anyone allowing me across the road with no crossing. I rarely thank anyone on a crossing. I thought they had to stop and didn’t think to say thank you. I do walk across briskly to save them time.