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My manager has banned all vests, skirts and shorts

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itsjustthepricewepay · 26/05/2026 13:32

I could cry right now.

I understand banning thin strapped vests but surely thick straps are fine? She’s also banned all shorts (including knee length) and skirts that sit at the knee. Basically we have to go down to ankle length trousers.

AIBU to genuinely consider quitting my job? Her office is air conditioned but we’re in a horrible hot sun trap!

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Pigeonpoodle · 26/05/2026 20:34

What would your boss do if you dared turn up in something as daring as a knee length skirt?

NameChangeMay2026 · 26/05/2026 20:34

itsjustthepricewepay · 26/05/2026 16:34

I think they look perfectly fine, I’d worn them the day prior too and think it looks fine!

i can see how that outfit could be taken for pjs, tbh, OP.

I think a loose, floaty dress would look nicer.

DaffodilLill · 26/05/2026 20:32

Chipsahoy · 26/05/2026 20:30

I’d be looking to leave. I am a grown woman, no one is telling me what to wear.

Just make sure you don't join an organisation with a dress code then.

suki1964 · 26/05/2026 20:31

I am feeling so bloody old

This post is of no use to you OP

My granddaughter was here for the weekend and said she hated her school as no make up , no jewellery , no heels etc - she's 12

I went through that in the 70's. Then I worked for Sainsbury's.

Wedding ring and studs only

Caucasian girls were not allowed to wear black tights , cream soda or American tan.

HR would be at the door to the shop floor checking us as we went to start work. Some lasses were sent to wash of the make up, a lot of guys were given a razor and told to clean cut

Tattoos were to be covered and never allowed to be seen , no matter how hot, if you had a tattoo , you had to have sleeves down, tights on, collars up

In those days, we were told at school, no Tatts, no one would employ you, and indeed, very few customer facing roles would, banks etc - not a chance

NameChangeMay2026 · 26/05/2026 20:31

maddiemookins16mum · 26/05/2026 14:08

What about dresses? I have this on in the office right now. I'd not be changing anything.

I think that dress is really nice for a hot day at work.

Chipsahoy · 26/05/2026 20:30

I’d be looking to leave. I am a grown woman, no one is telling me what to wear.

PrettyPickle · 26/05/2026 20:29

Different NHS Trusts have different rules but I would be accessing your Trust terms and conditions and checking on them. Has your boss said this to you by email?

Across Trust policies, the following are usually acceptable when you’re not patient‑facing:

  • Short‑sleeved tops (including sleeveless in many Trusts)
  • Smart, knee‑length shorts or smart cropped trousers
  • Lightweight summer dresses (not low‑cut, sheer, or strappy)
  • Sandals (closed‑toe preferred, but many Trusts relax this for office‑based staff)
  • No tights requirement in hot weather
  • Removing jackets/cardigans even if normally part of “business casual”
Most Trusts explicitly say that comfort and wellbeing in extreme heat is a valid reason to relax the usual dress code.

What is still usually not allowed, even in a heatwave. These tend to be consistent across Trusts:

  • Short shorts, denim shorts, or anything “beachwear”
  • Strappy tops, spaghetti straps, bandeau tops
  • Crop tops
  • Flip‑flops (health & safety)
  • Anything sheer or low‑cut
  • Slogans that could be offensive or political
Even for non‑public‑facing staff, Trusts usually require a “professional appearance”.

Examples from real Trust policies
(These are typical excerpts, wording varies, but the principles are stable.)
Leeds Teaching Hospitals

  • Non‑clinical staff may dress “smart casual”.
  • Sleeveless tops allowed if “not revealing”.
  • Shorts allowed if “tailored and knee‑length”.
Manchester University NHS Foundation Trust
  • “Dress should be appropriate to the working environment.”
  • Shorts permitted for non‑patient‑facing staff if “smart and modest”.
Barts Health
  • “Relaxed summer dress is acceptable for office‑based staff.”
  • No denim shorts, flip‑flops, or strappy tops.
NHS England (corporate offices)
  • “Smart casual” year‑round.
  • No specific heatwave rules, but managers can “exercise discretion”.

Level 3 or 4 Heatwave alert (see below for more on this or see Gov.UK)
Many Trusts issue temporary guidance such as:

  • “Staff may dress more informally for comfort.”
  • “Short‑sleeved and sleeveless tops are acceptable.”
  • “Sandals permitted for non‑clinical staff.”

This is usually emailed out by HR or Estates. The real rule of thumb for non‑uniformed, non‑public‑facing NHS staff, the heatwave dress code is basically: Smart, modest, cool, and safe. If you wouldn’t wear it to a professional office, don’t wear it - but you don’t need to suffer in 30°C either.

Current heat‑health alert level (as of 26 May 2026)
According to the UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA), Amber heat‑health alerts are currently in place for:

  • South West
  • South East
  • London
  • East of England
  • West Midlands
  • East Midlands
Meanwhile, other regions i.e Yorkshire & Humber is under a Yellow alert, which is one step below Amber but still signals possible health impacts. You can check the level on the Gov.UK website for your Trust.

If you are NHS are you in the Union, if so I would be checking your Trust dress code in heatwaves, the Gov.UK website to see what the heat alert is for your Trust and then speaking with the Union.

Solaitt · 26/05/2026 20:27

Lifelover16 · 26/05/2026 20:01

The rules should apply equally to men as well as women shouldn’t they?
I wouldn’t want to be working with a man wearing a vest exposing his hairy chest and bushy armpits in my vicinity!

Yes they should.

As there’s absolutely nothing wrong with having hairy armpits or a hairy chest. It’s hair FFS. IT’S NATURAL.

Are you one of these people who thinks it’s gross if women have hairy armpits or legs?

NameChangeMay2026 · 26/05/2026 20:25

itsjustthepricewepay · 26/05/2026 17:25

I love getting my boobs out to be honest. I think my cleavage looks great and I wish I had the confidence to do it more in my everyday life

Everyone has them well out these days. Go for it!

MistyMountainTop · 26/05/2026 20:23

HarshbutTrue2 · 26/05/2026 18:42

Also, I hope you iron your clothes before going to work. As someone who sews you should know that garments need pressing at every stage, as they are made, including seams. They should have a final iron on completion and then hung on a hanger. After washing, clothes should be ironed before wearing.

Goodness! I've not ironed my work tops since about 2002! I discovered that they don't need it - and they're under a jumper in winter. I don't iron my jumpers either.

TheTealHiker · 26/05/2026 20:22

Does the company have a dress code?

TheTealHiker · 26/05/2026 20:22

Does the company have a dress code?

NameChangeMay2026 · 26/05/2026 20:21

itsjustthepricewepay · 26/05/2026 17:21

So you think women should be shaving their bodies because it’s “not nice to look at”?

The subject of our conversation is not wanting bare armpits in the office, I thought? That's what I was answering about. That I don't want the look and smell of anyone's hairy armpits in the office. Nothing about shaving. Just covering them in the office.

DaffodilLill · 26/05/2026 20:19

Notellinganyone · 26/05/2026 20:17

Weird hatred for the vests. I’m a 59 year old Secondary English Teacher in an academic independent school and I wear vests when it’s hot.

So your school has no staff dress code?

By a vest do you mean a sleeveless T shirt?
Or a scoop neck, low back, thin strap top that's more beach or garden wear?

That's unusual even for an indie school, unless it's incredibly progressive.

Notellinganyone · 26/05/2026 20:17

Weird hatred for the vests. I’m a 59 year old Secondary English Teacher in an academic independent school and I wear vests when it’s hot.

Noorandapples · 26/05/2026 20:15

Wow I can't believe how many rude, abusive comments are in this thread! I was going to comment about how thus should be taken to HR because of the double standard between men and women's dress code.. but honestly I'm taken aback by how horrible everyone has been to this person!

DaffodilLill · 26/05/2026 20:15

PigglyWigglyOhYeah · 26/05/2026 19:20

Rules exist to protect 99% of people from the 1% who want to do their own thing.

I think we can see from this thread that this data needs updating, as an awful lot of people seem to want to do their own thing and wear their own thing on company time. I am old fashioned, but I agree with the ‘heads, shoulders, knees and toes…but heads are ok’ line posted up thread. I also think that your employer can decide what you should wear, within reason, because they are paying you (which is often overlooked - you’re not doing them a favour by popping into the office, they are paying you). If you don’t like it, go and work somewhere else.

Agree.

People still expect professionals - someone mentioned doctors, lawyers, bank managers- not needing to look smart.

They dress smartly out of respect for their clients. It doesn't have to be a full suit, though some still do that- but not shorts and vest FGS.

Interestingly school uniforms are becoming more stringent, rather than less. There are reasons for this- identity, smartness, not opening the door to weird and wonderful distracting 'fashion' .

notacooldad · 26/05/2026 20:15

Blimey, that is harsh.
In our office two blokes wear shorts all year unless they are going into very formal meetings and they'll change back afterwards. One woman wears knee length denim shorts all year, no one bats an eye.
The only time something was said was when a female staf f who was 42 at the time had denim shorts on in a heatwave and her arse cheeks were hanging out and had a low cut halter neck t shirt on. She was sent home to change thankfully!

MaybeIamJustABitch · 26/05/2026 20:15

@itsjustthepricewepay I personally think you’ve been given an exceptionally hard time on this thread.

I’ve worked in a corporate setting my whole life (I’m in my 50’s). Aside from flip flops from a safety perspective, which you clearly haven’t mentioned that you’d wear them, I think your manager is being personal in her opinions and dictating that on to others. Our CEO wears shorts and tshirt to the office in this weather ffs!

Can’t people in non customer facing environments not be given a bit of slack?

missmollygreen · 26/05/2026 20:10

ToffeePennie · 26/05/2026 13:51

I will be returning to work in health care next week. I will be wearing a tshirt, a tunic top and leggings plus a jumper if it’s too cold.
Why can’t you wear your usual trousers and top/blouse? What’s the rationale?

The same reason you dont wear a winter coat in the summer?
Why only wear a jumper when its too cold? Whats you rationale?

I would say it is fairly obvious. People are uncomfortable when they are too warm

FudgeFudy · 26/05/2026 20:09

If men can still wear shorts then that's really odd. I was wondering whether this policy could be because if it's frowned upon for men to wear shorts or vests in the office (and it often is), then it is a bit inconsistent to allow women to basically do the same thing. To be clear OP - has your manager actually said it's OK for men to wear shorts or is it just that they haven't said it's not because it hasn't been raised?

NoGarlic · 26/05/2026 20:05

‘heads, shoulders, knees and toes…but heads are ok’

Are these erogenous zones now? I know they tend to move about as times change, but I didn't think I was that out of touch!

It would explain the trend towards bare backsides, though. The young women in thong shorts have their knees, toes and shoulders covered, right? Right??

DappledThings · 26/05/2026 20:02

itsjustthepricewepay · 26/05/2026 18:02

I don’t know why a thread about my manager being OTT has now turned into people deciding they want to tear me down for sewing. But it’s just rude and unnecessary.

I don't know either, it's really unpleasant.

That top is absolutely reasonable office wear. I wouldn't describe it as a vest anyway and I took perfectly presentable.

It's the problem though with people being given an inch and taking a mile. That top isn't a vest to me but to lots of people there wouldn't be a difference between a vest and a sleeveless tshirt so they wod start wearing all kinds of inappropriately skimpy items.

BlackCat14 · 26/05/2026 20:01

DollopOfFun · 26/05/2026 19:58

I'm another one genuinely confused as to why bare shoulders and arms are now deemed inappropriate?

Corporate power dressing and all that jazz has always included sleeveless blouses and dresses, weren't we all supposed to go all Michelle Obama arms at one point?

Agree! Bare arms in this weather is totally the norm in my workplace.

Lifelover16 · 26/05/2026 20:01

Solaitt · 26/05/2026 15:10

What’s wrong with an exposed armpit?

FFS people like you are pathetic.

The rules should apply equally to men as well as women shouldn’t they?
I wouldn’t want to be working with a man wearing a vest exposing his hairy chest and bushy armpits in my vicinity!