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AIBU to stop therapy after learning my therapist’s husband is Reform?

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CanyonRider · 25/05/2026 18:20

I live in a small town. I started having therapy maybe a year ago. I feel it’s been working for me and I like my therapist. However I realised today that she is (very very recently) married to a man who recently stood and won as a reform councillor in our local election. I detest reform. I’m married to an immigrant (EU citizen) and am delighted that my kids are dual nationals and have the option of travelling, working and living in the EU should they desire. I’m also very pro the transition to green energy. I have solar and drive an EV. Finally I cannot stand Farage and the political grift embodied by people like him and Jenrick and am dismayed by the harms caused by Brexit.

My therapist is also an EU national and is here under indefinite leave to remain - as is my wife.
Read a few interviews with her husband today and he spouts the usual anti EU, anti immigration, anti green transition rhetoric you’d expect from Reform. I don’t feel comfortable continuing therapy with someone who’s married to a reform politician, and am very surprised that she is comfortable with his views and by extension those of Farage.

Am I overreacting?

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Allisnotlost1 · 26/05/2026 08:59

LuckyHazelFox · 26/05/2026 07:58

So you wouldn't be civil to a professional high tax paying individual because they vote Reform? That says more about you.

I don’t know what high tax paying has to do with it, but I think if you look at the data the ‘professional high tax paying Reform voter’ is vanishingly rare.

5128gap · 26/05/2026 08:55

Owly11 · 26/05/2026 08:13

So the therapist should be fired because you know the husband is an arse and a racist without even knowing who the husband is and without even knowing the political views of the therapist. What about if she is in the process of divorcing him? Would that be acceptable to you, or should she still be fired because she had the temerity to marry him in the first place. I have seen many posts on here from women who are worried that their husbands have turned to reform. Should they also all lose their jobs?

The therapist won't be 'fired'. She is not the OPs employee. She is a service provider that the OP is at liberty to patronise with her custom or not.
I know it sounds more dramatic and frames the therapist as a victim if you use 'fired', and gives you the opportunity to frame us as heading for a dystopia where women's employment is at risk, but its not an accurate description of the situation.
The therapist is no more 'fired' than your hairdresser would be if you decided to go elsewhere for whatever reason you chose.

Allisnotlost1 · 26/05/2026 08:53

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 26/05/2026 03:04

You have quietly shifted from “Reform voters are not racist or stupid” to repeatedly implying they are gullible idiots voting on emotion because they cannot understand policy. That is exactly why people stop listening to this sort of argument.
Also, your numbers are selective. You originally implied the Greens did not have a serious extremism problem. They plainly do. Multiple Green councillors and candidates have already been suspended or forced out over antisemitism or offensive conduct, including the Makerfield candidate sharing “false flag” conspiracy material about an antisemitic attack. Pretending that is just an unfortunate coincidence while portraying Reform as uniquely toxic is partisan nonsense.
And yes, Reform policy is rough around the edges. They are a relatively new insurgent party, not a machine polished by decades in Westminster. But the core policies are actually very easy to understand:

  • Reduce immigration substantially
  • Leave the ECHR if necessary to deport foreign criminals and stop illegal entry
  • Increase domestic energy production
  • Cut bureaucracy and quangos
  • Lower taxes where possible
  • Challenge DEI and identity politics in public institutions
  • Tougher criminal justice and policing
You may dislike those policies, but claiming nobody can explain them is obviously false. The funniest bit is your migration comment. “It’s more complicated than I can be bothered to explain to you” is usually what people say when they do not actually have a clear argument themselves. Net migration hit nearly a million under the Conservatives. It has fallen from that peak, but remains historically extremely high. The public can see housing pressure, NHS pressure, school pressure and wage pressure with their own eyes. They do not need a lecture from Westminster or Mumsnet to notice it. And no, saying “people are angry about immigration and distrust mainstream parties” is not calling them stupid. It is describing political reality. Treating millions of voters as morally or intellectually defective because they disagree with you is exactly the mindset that created Reform in the first place.

3 cases, vs 15 plus the multiple from the prior elections doesn’t really compare. But you will choose your own evidence.

I haven’t shifted on anything - I pointed out the implication of your words, and you seem not to like them when they come from someone else. If people are voting for a party because they think people don’t like them, that’s irrational. I don’t believe that’s what people are voting for Reform, but clearly you do as you’ve repeated it throughout the thread.

Those are not policies, they are statements. How do reform plan to increase domestic energy production? What does tougher on crime mean - more police, longer sentences, different sentences, make more things a crime? Lower taxes ‘where possible’? What are the possible conditions that will need to be met to lower taxes?

For me, rough around the edges isn’t something I’d vote for. People are welcome to, but it’s a bit embarrassing to have no clarity after so long and if people are comfortable with that it does say something about their expectations and understanding of government.

Anyway, the point of the thread is about choice. OP has made the choice that this therapist is not for her. Would you choose a therapist with different values to you? Say, if the partner of the school you’ve complained about was a therapist, you’d continue to see them? I’d guess not and that would be reasonable.

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 26/05/2026 08:51

Owly11 · 26/05/2026 08:47

So you haven't seen the posts on here from women worried that their husbands went on the reform marches and what to do? It really doesn't matter what the content is of judging a woman for her husband's choices, it is the process of speculating and making up all sorts of stories about her and then judging and firing her that is highly problematic. Also everyone is assuming op is a woman for some reason but op could be a man. So you are happy for a man to fire a woman on the basis of her husband's choices because you think you know the circumstances of their marriage and divorce.

But the therapist married this man recently, this ain’t a couple who’ve been married 20+ years and he’s drifted rightward or fallen down internet rabbit holes etc, this is someone who was a member of the reform party and active enough in the reform party to be a potential candidate for election for them and while that was going on, the therapist married him.

id have sympathy with someone who’d married someone who’d changed, but to marry someone knowing their politics means that even if you don’t completely share all their views, you don’t find them abhorrent.

it’s a reasonable conclusion the therapist shares the views of the company she chooses to keep.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 26/05/2026 08:51

Freud2 · 26/05/2026 08:02

I vote Reform and my husband us left leaning. He has voted Labour in the past but says he'll never vote for them again. We have many political discussions and it seems he agrees with most Reform policies when I state them one by one. They have been demonised for years and been called racist so much that I think people are fearful of admitting they vote Reform.
Of course you can have different political views from your partner. Do you think that the millions who will vote Reform are all racist? How insulting.

Yes, I think most Reform voters are racist. And those who aren't racist are just too stupid to understand what they're voting for. Oh, and I guess there might be a few cr*pto billionaires wanting to exploit other people's racism for their own financial gain.

If Reform voters find that insulting...well, perhaps they should think about why so many non-Reform voters perceive them that way.

CaesarAugusta · 26/05/2026 08:48

DeathNote11 · 26/05/2026 06:18

My fiancé has 2 flag poles in his garden. He's flying the Union & St George's cross. Should I be fired?

Is your fiancé a Reform councillor? And are you self-employed?

Owly11 · 26/05/2026 08:47

CaesarAugusta · 26/05/2026 08:41

Clearly OP knows quite a lot about at least the public face of the therapist's husband, and the fact that the therapist is apparently so comfortable with that that she has married him is significant. Why would she be divorcing him if she has only just got married?

So you haven't seen the posts on here from women worried that their husbands went on the reform marches and what to do? It really doesn't matter what the content is of judging a woman for her husband's choices, it is the process of speculating and making up all sorts of stories about her and then judging and firing her that is highly problematic. Also everyone is assuming op is a woman for some reason but op could be a man. So you are happy for a man to fire a woman on the basis of her husband's choices because you think you know the circumstances of their marriage and divorce.

CaesarAugusta · 26/05/2026 08:46

Freud2 · 26/05/2026 08:02

I vote Reform and my husband us left leaning. He has voted Labour in the past but says he'll never vote for them again. We have many political discussions and it seems he agrees with most Reform policies when I state them one by one. They have been demonised for years and been called racist so much that I think people are fearful of admitting they vote Reform.
Of course you can have different political views from your partner. Do you think that the millions who will vote Reform are all racist? How insulting.

Do you agree with things like limiting women's rights and selling off the NHS? If your husband agrees with these things, he's clearly not left-leaning.

CaesarAugusta · 26/05/2026 08:44

Owly11 · 26/05/2026 08:09

Well of course it's acceptable. But it's still misogynistic and idiotic when she is good at her job and the therapy is working.

The point is, surely, that the therapy may well stop working in these circumstances. Therapy involves allowing a therapist to know an awful lot about you and influence your life, and requires a high degree of trust In the therapist. If that trust is damaged, then the therapy won't work anyway, and I would struggle to trust someone who has shown such poor judgment as to align herself with a Reform politician.

bafta16 · 26/05/2026 08:43

Owly11 · 26/05/2026 08:37

I am literally on Mumsnet every day reading from posters who are married to or with men who are arses. Usually there is a lot of sympathy for the poster. But it still seems like you think those women should be punished for having 'poor judgement'. And therapy is no different from any other job. If you want to judge a woman for the company she keeps then it seems like feminism still has quite a way to go.

Some things are crossing a line. Being a Reform Councillor crosses a very big one for me.
I would not choose to associate with that person, nor their family. Let alone pay for their expertise. Views which a few years ago were held by a tiny minority are now to be lauded and praised. It's disgusting.

InterestedDad37 · 26/05/2026 08:43

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 25/05/2026 19:24

That comment was abhorrent. No argument there. It has no place in a democratic society.

But you are mixing up “a horrible thing said by someone associated with Reform” with “Reform policy”. Those are not the same thing.

There is nothing in Reform’s actual policies that amounts to racial supremacy. Lower immigration, stronger borders, staying out the EU, or opposing net zero are not racial supremacy. You can dislike those policies, but inventing worse ones is not an argument.

And where is the evidence that Reform policies are causing more hate crimes? Not “I feel they are” or “I dislike them”, actual evidence.

Nobody is asking you to ignore vile comments. But if you want to criticise Reform, criticise what they actually say

If they and their supporters are having to argue vociferously that it isn't a party by and for bigots and ignorant fools, there's a kind of inevitability to everyone's growing realisation that that's exactly what they are 😂😂

5128gap · 26/05/2026 08:42

DeathNote11 · 26/05/2026 07:15

Here is the problem....

There's a 3rd flag for a military regiment & a small engraved plaque on the fence with the names of his fallen comrades engraved on it. Still "class" or understandable sentiment & respect for people who have given their lives, like he was fully prepared to do (as was I) for this country?

I ask again. Should I be fired?

No. It would not be lawful to dismiss you from your job because your partner flies flags. If this happened to you, you could fight your case at ET if you're in the UK, and you would win. And rightfully so.
However, it entirely lawful for a person to choose not to purchase the services of a therapist who's husband is a Reform Councillor.

CaesarAugusta · 26/05/2026 08:41

Owly11 · 26/05/2026 08:13

So the therapist should be fired because you know the husband is an arse and a racist without even knowing who the husband is and without even knowing the political views of the therapist. What about if she is in the process of divorcing him? Would that be acceptable to you, or should she still be fired because she had the temerity to marry him in the first place. I have seen many posts on here from women who are worried that their husbands have turned to reform. Should they also all lose their jobs?

Clearly OP knows quite a lot about at least the public face of the therapist's husband, and the fact that the therapist is apparently so comfortable with that that she has married him is significant. Why would she be divorcing him if she has only just got married?

CaptainMyCaptain · 26/05/2026 08:40

Boomer55 · 26/05/2026 07:32

Seriously? Who votes what is not your business. 🤷‍♀️

The OP doesn't know how the therapist votes herself (that is between her and the ballot box) only that she chose to marry someone who is openly Reform. That would certainly put me off as it's a choice she made to align herself with someone whose views I find totally repugnant.

I was recently in a coastal town where there was a chip shop with Restore Britain posters in the window. I wouldn't give them my custom if they were the best chips in the world, I wouldn't even feel welcome in there. I would assume they hated me as much as I hate them so they are not having my money. Years ago we had a decorator who expressed racist views. I let him finish the job but stopped chatting with him and would never employ him again. There was a pub near me where the landlord expressed his political views on a blackboard outside - once they were so offensive someone threw the blackboard in the canal (it wasn't me). He got a new board and nailed it to a tree but went bust not long after, presumably because he was alienating potential customers.

TallSturdyGirl · 26/05/2026 08:39

Gofnfnf · 26/05/2026 07:38

Yeah they said some stuff that allegedly happened 50 years ago. Teenage boys have always said edgy things. You'd find no different today. What matters is how you treat people in actual adult life. Nigel's worry was about Romanian crime gangs and free movement.

Racists have never been edgy. They've always just be sad bastards
I'm the same age as Farage if my friends wanted to be edgy, the wore out there clothes, went raving, listened to different music. They didn't say racist and antisemitic things.

Owly11 · 26/05/2026 08:37

bafta16 · 26/05/2026 08:32

Good post. I wouldn't choose a Christian Therapist probably.

I am literally on Mumsnet every day reading from posters who are married to or with men who are arses. Usually there is a lot of sympathy for the poster. But it still seems like you think those women should be punished for having 'poor judgement'. And therapy is no different from any other job. If you want to judge a woman for the company she keeps then it seems like feminism still has quite a way to go.

5128gap · 26/05/2026 08:35

LuckyHazelFox · 26/05/2026 07:26

It's as if therapists' husbands suddenly "have the power" to majorly impact their partners' clients.

I don't think anyone is saying that. I think people are saying they don't want to purchase services that will benefit Reform politicians, indirectly through adding to their household income.
And that they question the values of someone who would marry a Reform politician, and that it would be important to them in therapy not to have to question the values of their therapist.

bafta16 · 26/05/2026 08:34

bafta16 · 26/05/2026 08:18

Nigel's worry was about Romanian crime gangs and free movement

What a lot of worries he has. Romanians, Farmers, the so called " boat people" women who want to work and have children.

Must be worried sick.

Oh I forgot abused young girls. Wasn't he terribly worried about them at one point. Along with his chum Musk? The latter was very worried indeed.

Allisnotlost1 · 26/05/2026 08:33

LuckyHazelFox · 26/05/2026 01:40

Judging people because they don't think the way you want them to is intolerance. The hard left demand society conforms to their standards. So yes, fascism and I stand by that.

You’re entitled to be as wrong as you like. The only thing that ‘demands’ you to conform is the law.

bafta16 · 26/05/2026 08:32

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 26/05/2026 08:22

Why is it misogynistic to judge her based on the company she keeps? And the person you choose to marry is really the main company you choose to keep!

Also therapy isn’t like other jobs, your personal judgement and morals are part of it, someone racist is unlikely to be a good therapist. Certainly it would be hard for someone like the OP who has a non-British partner to trust a therapist she has reason to believe is racist, hardly idiotic to not waste any more money with her.

im sure there are some reform supporters who aren’t racist, I just haven’t met them. I will however, assume anyone who does support reform is racist and has poor judgment. Therefore any service that they offer that needed good judgement would be immediately one to avoid.

The OP is completely correct to take her money elsewhere.

Good post. I wouldn't choose a Christian Therapist probably.

5128gap · 26/05/2026 08:30

LuckyHazelFox · 26/05/2026 08:18

Great so let's pick up on misogyny every time it shows its head in every party.

Absolutely we should.
The Makerfield example is of particular concern, because of Farage's reaction. Its one thing an individual revealing themselves as a misogynist, another when the leader of their party defends their misogyny as 'banter'.
We can pick up on it, but when it's an accepted norm from top down, I'm not optimistic it would do any good.

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 26/05/2026 08:22

Owly11 · 26/05/2026 08:09

Well of course it's acceptable. But it's still misogynistic and idiotic when she is good at her job and the therapy is working.

Why is it misogynistic to judge her based on the company she keeps? And the person you choose to marry is really the main company you choose to keep!

Also therapy isn’t like other jobs, your personal judgement and morals are part of it, someone racist is unlikely to be a good therapist. Certainly it would be hard for someone like the OP who has a non-British partner to trust a therapist she has reason to believe is racist, hardly idiotic to not waste any more money with her.

im sure there are some reform supporters who aren’t racist, I just haven’t met them. I will however, assume anyone who does support reform is racist and has poor judgment. Therefore any service that they offer that needed good judgement would be immediately one to avoid.

The OP is completely correct to take her money elsewhere.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 26/05/2026 08:20

LuckyHazelFox · 26/05/2026 07:50

Wonder why you didn't cancel with her there and then. I'm also wondering how this forum with react if the OP told the platform it was going to drop services because they didn't like mix race couples. Her therapist's choice of partner is personal to her. You can only control how you want to be affected by it. You don't get to change it or cheapen it which is what you did in your OP.

It's very telling that you chose mixed race couples as a comparison. It tells us all that we need to know about you as a human being.

Why don't you come back and elaborate exactly why you think that is a suitable comparison to the situation described by the OP?

Seaitoverthere · 26/05/2026 08:20

Owly11 · 26/05/2026 08:13

So the therapist should be fired because you know the husband is an arse and a racist without even knowing who the husband is and without even knowing the political views of the therapist. What about if she is in the process of divorcing him? Would that be acceptable to you, or should she still be fired because she had the temerity to marry him in the first place. I have seen many posts on here from women who are worried that their husbands have turned to reform. Should they also all lose their jobs?

She’s recently married him and he has been vocal about his views. It’s just personal choice isn’t it. You would clearly stay with therapist, I wouldn’t and neither would some others on this thread, that can’t be a surprise.

It’s just the consequence of taking a certain action ie. Being vocal about your beliefs is putting that info into the public domain and whatever your view is there will be some who judge you negatively for it and it may well have repercussions. It’s just the way things are, personal freedom and all that which we now have given we are no longer ruled by the EU.

bafta16 · 26/05/2026 08:18

Nigel's worry was about Romanian crime gangs and free movement

What a lot of worries he has. Romanians, Farmers, the so called " boat people" women who want to work and have children.

Must be worried sick.

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