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AIBU for being sad and upset about people's behaviour at my church

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babyblueskies · 25/05/2026 01:47

I (32) am a single mom to my dear son, 14 years old.

Background: We moved to a new town (230 miles away) because of my job's demands. Life has been very difficult, but we managed. We have been living here for 1.5 years now. More than a year ago, we found this church. My son and I are happy to find a community, though we miss our old church dearly.

But we love this new church. People have been kind, always praying for us etc.

My son has been very active, playing the guitar for the music team and would always show up at every practice even for when he is not playing (he plays once a month). We also attend every Sunday.

Our friends Friend A and Friend B, (I don't know now if I can still call them that) from church who are in their 50s invited us to their child's 9th birthday party. My car is at the garage and they know it. I would think they'd offer a lift because they offered everyone else and there is a lot of room in their cars, but they told me and my son to walk and even said "it's not that far" when it's a 40 minute walk away (it's a small town with no taxi, no Uber and there's no bus going there because it's in a very secluded area, so it is only accessed by driving).

Now, they expect us to be at the party at 1PM and we all know how hot it has been. And they expect us to walk in the scorching heat for 40 minutes?

So I said, okay, we will just walk, and we did!

We survived, we managed and we made it, even while carrying the gift for their child.

At the party, everyone was already there, everyone from church. I was already in a bad mood because I felt upset about what happened.

Now, I did not have any energy to say hi to people. And I noticed how only a few acknowledged me and my son's presence. A lot of them who would normally say hi, ignored us. They walked past me. Then it hit me. That I was always the one going out of my way to say hello to everyone. But when it's my turn, people treated us like we're invisible.

Of course my son did not notice, but I was hurting inside.

Then I realized something.

We have been going to this church for a year now and the youth there (there's around eleven kids age 14-24) have never spoken a single word to me.

One time I walked past one of them, his name is E. He is the son of a good friend of mine there.

I said, "Hi E." He just ignored me.

He is 17 years old.

I said, "Oh maybe he's just shy." Etc but it's been a year now. I don't mean no harm by being at least civil.

This happens all the time. For example, every Friday whenever we have Bible study, this is the scenario, I would be sitting on the couch with the other moms (ages 40+, I am the youngest) and the kids (age 14-24) would walk in, greet all the other moms and ALWAYS skip me, not talk to me, no eye contact like I didn't exist. And this has been going on for a year.

When I got home I actually cried. I just realized how little I mattered to these people when I saw them as family. It's not like I am requiring them to acknowledge me. Maybe even just a civil because I am tired of every interaction being awkward.

I asked my son about it and he said he does not mind, he says he likes hanging out more with the adults anyway.

But I did not reveal to him how I felt.

I am just glad he does not take it to heart because I do.

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Jorge14 · 26/05/2026 17:53

I actually think your feelings are warranted here. I wouldn’t have walked 40 mins in the heat. Someone could’ve offered a lift surely. If you feel unwelcome try a new church, there are so many churches that would welcome you. Sometimes you just need to find your people.

Doggodoggo · 26/05/2026 12:48

Interesting first post...US spelling...a few thinhs don't add up and it reads like AI to me. Seems like a manufactured opportunity for people to demonstrate their hatred for Christians imo.

WhatNoRaisins · 26/05/2026 09:26

It can be really hard to know how long to try and when to give up on being accepted into a group. You have my sympathy there OP.

LarksAscending · 26/05/2026 09:23

I’m not sure why you’re acting like they owe you transport? You were invited and you are an adult who can either decide to walk or not go. 40 minutes even in heat is not a long walk - I did 2.5 hours on Saturday without even meaning to.

So while it is a little off they drove others and not you your behaviour was strange. You walked to the party (optional activity, not mandatory) and then refused to greet anyone and acted angry and upset at a child’s birthday party.

Another note - There will be a taxi service no matter how small the town even if informal. You should start asking around as generally it’s word of mouth - the pubs will know who does lifts for cash.

FairKoala · 26/05/2026 08:57

Bubblesgun · 26/05/2026 08:08

I am going to say it in the nicest possible way but harsh truth.

i have relocated a lot in my life, different countries different cultures, with and without kids, different towns in my own country (france) so this is what i believe works.
i have put this to use in my last move with family and the benefits are MASSIVE.

Its a rule of 3 yrs

1st yr: you re being welcomed and introduced
2nd yr: can be a slog, and lonely. They ve welcomed you, you re no longer novelty, people are back in their routine
3rd yr: you start reaping what you sow.

  • when you move somewhere you have yo be the one investing. Nobody is going to make it easy for you, nor should they even if it would be nice to, so INVEST.
  • Invest time: invite invite invite. To events, to coffee, to your home if you can.
  • invest more time if you can: you re involved in your church, invest a bit of time somewhere else: library, a school to support the kids in reading, a charity, whatever
  • be the one that is forthcoming: you say hi, you introduce yourself, plaster a smile on your face
  • remember to be assertive with your boundaries though, dont loose yourself
  • be authentic and genuine
  • be PATIENT

Relocated a lot in the UK

Nothing says clique more that the Christian church going groups.

They were nice initially because they didn’t want to look unchristian but ultimately their clique comes out and not giving you a lift to the party when everyone else was and took up the offer is them saying to you, We have to invite you but take the hint you are not welcome.

If you want to test this out, stop going to church for the next few weeks and see how many, if any come enquiring after you

Dont waste any more of your life with these people. Move on.

Bubblesgun · 26/05/2026 08:08

babyblueskies · 25/05/2026 01:47

I (32) am a single mom to my dear son, 14 years old.

Background: We moved to a new town (230 miles away) because of my job's demands. Life has been very difficult, but we managed. We have been living here for 1.5 years now. More than a year ago, we found this church. My son and I are happy to find a community, though we miss our old church dearly.

But we love this new church. People have been kind, always praying for us etc.

My son has been very active, playing the guitar for the music team and would always show up at every practice even for when he is not playing (he plays once a month). We also attend every Sunday.

Our friends Friend A and Friend B, (I don't know now if I can still call them that) from church who are in their 50s invited us to their child's 9th birthday party. My car is at the garage and they know it. I would think they'd offer a lift because they offered everyone else and there is a lot of room in their cars, but they told me and my son to walk and even said "it's not that far" when it's a 40 minute walk away (it's a small town with no taxi, no Uber and there's no bus going there because it's in a very secluded area, so it is only accessed by driving).

Now, they expect us to be at the party at 1PM and we all know how hot it has been. And they expect us to walk in the scorching heat for 40 minutes?

So I said, okay, we will just walk, and we did!

We survived, we managed and we made it, even while carrying the gift for their child.

At the party, everyone was already there, everyone from church. I was already in a bad mood because I felt upset about what happened.

Now, I did not have any energy to say hi to people. And I noticed how only a few acknowledged me and my son's presence. A lot of them who would normally say hi, ignored us. They walked past me. Then it hit me. That I was always the one going out of my way to say hello to everyone. But when it's my turn, people treated us like we're invisible.

Of course my son did not notice, but I was hurting inside.

Then I realized something.

We have been going to this church for a year now and the youth there (there's around eleven kids age 14-24) have never spoken a single word to me.

One time I walked past one of them, his name is E. He is the son of a good friend of mine there.

I said, "Hi E." He just ignored me.

He is 17 years old.

I said, "Oh maybe he's just shy." Etc but it's been a year now. I don't mean no harm by being at least civil.

This happens all the time. For example, every Friday whenever we have Bible study, this is the scenario, I would be sitting on the couch with the other moms (ages 40+, I am the youngest) and the kids (age 14-24) would walk in, greet all the other moms and ALWAYS skip me, not talk to me, no eye contact like I didn't exist. And this has been going on for a year.

When I got home I actually cried. I just realized how little I mattered to these people when I saw them as family. It's not like I am requiring them to acknowledge me. Maybe even just a civil because I am tired of every interaction being awkward.

I asked my son about it and he said he does not mind, he says he likes hanging out more with the adults anyway.

But I did not reveal to him how I felt.

I am just glad he does not take it to heart because I do.

I am going to say it in the nicest possible way but harsh truth.

i have relocated a lot in my life, different countries different cultures, with and without kids, different towns in my own country (france) so this is what i believe works.
i have put this to use in my last move with family and the benefits are MASSIVE.

Its a rule of 3 yrs

1st yr: you re being welcomed and introduced
2nd yr: can be a slog, and lonely. They ve welcomed you, you re no longer novelty, people are back in their routine
3rd yr: you start reaping what you sow.

  • when you move somewhere you have yo be the one investing. Nobody is going to make it easy for you, nor should they even if it would be nice to, so INVEST.
  • Invest time: invite invite invite. To events, to coffee, to your home if you can.
  • invest more time if you can: you re involved in your church, invest a bit of time somewhere else: library, a school to support the kids in reading, a charity, whatever
  • be the one that is forthcoming: you say hi, you introduce yourself, plaster a smile on your face
  • remember to be assertive with your boundaries though, dont loose yourself
  • be authentic and genuine
  • be PATIENT
OttersOnAPlane · 26/05/2026 07:45

Near Brighton and there are no taxis or public transport?

blackrabbitwhiterabbit · 26/05/2026 07:43

blacksax · 25/05/2026 23:28

What kid wants to invite a church congregation to their birthday party?😁

Also, this.

blackrabbitwhiterabbit · 26/05/2026 07:43

Sounds like church to me.

We went for two years and most people blanked us.

Time to give it up.

oncemoreuntothebeachdearfriends · 26/05/2026 07:33

blacksax · 25/05/2026 23:28

What kid wants to invite a church congregation to their birthday party?😁

One who has been brainwashed by their parents?

blacksax · 25/05/2026 23:28

What kid wants to invite a church congregation to their birthday party?😁

FlippantlyShe · 25/05/2026 23:11

PomplaMouse · 25/05/2026 19:41

But the relevant friends did know the OP's car was in the garage - nothing to do with "expecting it to be general knowledge".

They offered everyone else lifts and told the OP to walk.

The OP does say that, on this occasion, she wasn't the proactive greeter, and nobody greeted her. She has then realized that this is always the case - either she ways "hello" or is ignored, even if she is part of a group where the "greeter" greets everyone else.

The party hosts had already filled their cars, from what the OP says. There wasn’t room. I was assuming that other people from church had also made their way to the party under their own steam, and could have offered a lift had she asked, as she refers to ‘a lot’ of people not greeting her, and ‘several’ people who normally talk to her not doing so, which suggests more than two carloads. But I hold to my point that an invitation to a nine year old’s birthday isn’t a summons, and that rather than walking there in heat and arriving feeling aggrieved, the OP should have declined on grounds of distance.

I do feel for the OP, who is clearly lonely and insecure, but most people don’t base their self-esteem on whether teenagers they barely know say hello to them.

blacksax · 25/05/2026 22:17

One wonders which Christian denomination this might be.

AlcoholicAntibiotic · 25/05/2026 21:55

Laurmolonlabe · 25/05/2026 21:53

I think this poster is in the US and needs advice from a platform from there, few people in the UK will relate to changing churches like this, or the idea of having people pray for them, and worrying about how much the people who attend care about you ,does not seem like anything I have ever heard of in the UK.
People in the UK are naturally guarded and you would not know , even after knowing them for years.

OP said she moved from Leeds to near Brighton, so I’m assuming UK.

Brighton can be very weird, though.

Laurmolonlabe · 25/05/2026 21:53

I think this poster is in the US and needs advice from a platform from there, few people in the UK will relate to changing churches like this, or the idea of having people pray for them, and worrying about how much the people who attend care about you ,does not seem like anything I have ever heard of in the UK.
People in the UK are naturally guarded and you would not know , even after knowing them for years.

Ved · 25/05/2026 21:09

Sorry @summershere99 I would have to disagree. After 18 months people should know whether they want to be friends with you, or if they want you in their life. You're talking more like it's been 18 days!

summershere99 · 25/05/2026 21:06

It’s possible they invited you out of politeness, sorry. If it’s a small church then they might feel obliged to invite everyone. I can’t imagine that my 14 year old and I would want to go to a 9 year olds party,

Also I think it’s easy to feel like people are ignoring you when you are already in a bad mood, everything feels a bit more personal. But some people did say hello and speak to you. You may have been giving off grumpy vibes, I know I tend to give people space if they look pissed off unless they’re a very good friend, You’ve only been in the church 18 months, proper friendships take years to develop. Give them a little bit of slack.

Ved · 25/05/2026 21:06

Never2many · 25/05/2026 19:07

I think there are two things here.

There are obviously a lot of Christians who on their own are decent people.

But put them all in a place together, and you end up with some horrendously awful, judgemental, cliquey churches.

And the sad thing is that too many of these decent people are so inmeshed in these churches that they don’t see it until they move away and back into reality.

I know too many people who have had what they believed to be solid friendships formed within the churches they belonged to.

Then something happens, they move away, they have a life event which means they can’t go to church, and suddenly those solid friendships have disappeared.

I’ve met a lot of decent Christians.

I’ve never encountered a decent church. IMO they just don’t exist.

Nailed it. 👍 Thank you. You articulated it very well.

ReadingSoManyThreads · 25/05/2026 20:51

JLou08 · 25/05/2026 12:34

Yes, I'd think nothing of a 40 minute walk in the heat. I didn't have a car until I was 30 so maybe I'm more accustomed to long walks in any weather than the typical person.

I'd walk in any weather, other than heatwaves - that's just bloody stupid and dangerous. Perhaps you're more acclimatised to 30oC heat than I am, as it's certainly not usual temperatures from where I'm originally from. It's been 32oC here today where I live now and it's utter hell for me, not a chance I'd go out in it.

fedupofpeppapig · 25/05/2026 20:46

Maybe the wives think their husbands want to shag you

PomplaMouse · 25/05/2026 19:53

@Brokentoes85

She hoped to be offered a lift when everyone else other than her was, particularly because it was known that she didn't have a car. Instead, she was told that she can walk.

How you somehow perceive "entitlement" is beyond me, unless you someone perceive wanting to be treated with basic decency is a sign of entitlement.

Perhaps you're just lacking basic social skills or reading comprehension ability, for example, your comment:

"What do you mean by "my turn" did they know it was now apparently your turn?"

This really isn't a difficult concept (for most of us, at least). Generally, saying "hello" to people is a welcoming thing to do. OP describes always having to be the one to greet everyone, and that nobody ever takes the onus of greeting her - which has made her feel unwelcome.

What about this is so challenging to you?

Walkingonairdays · 25/05/2026 19:42

Never2many · 25/05/2026 19:07

I think there are two things here.

There are obviously a lot of Christians who on their own are decent people.

But put them all in a place together, and you end up with some horrendously awful, judgemental, cliquey churches.

And the sad thing is that too many of these decent people are so inmeshed in these churches that they don’t see it until they move away and back into reality.

I know too many people who have had what they believed to be solid friendships formed within the churches they belonged to.

Then something happens, they move away, they have a life event which means they can’t go to church, and suddenly those solid friendships have disappeared.

I’ve met a lot of decent Christians.

I’ve never encountered a decent church. IMO they just don’t exist.

Again from my experience this is a sad fact & the reason people who are new in an area are reluctant to attend their local church. I don't have the answers although as mentioned in a previous post there should be far more members actively seeking out new residents and popping a note through their door with an invitation to go along. Too many people treat church like an exclusive social club.

PomplaMouse · 25/05/2026 19:41

FlippantlyShe · 25/05/2026 13:18

But nothing the OP has said suggests anyone is being rude. She didn’t ask anyone else for a lift. I don’t see why expected it to be general knowledge her car was in the garage. People may well have given her a lift if she’d asked. The invitation was not a summons. The OP was at liberty to decline if she thought the walk was too arduous. And she says herself she didn’t say hello to anyone at the party. She was clearly fuming and respectful after her walk. If she was stomping about with a face like thunder, igniting people, it’s hardly surprising people didn’t greet her.

The teenagers greeting her thing is completely unrelated. Teenagers are spectacularly self-absorbed. She’s been attending this church for a year. She’s probably a background blur to them.

But the relevant friends did know the OP's car was in the garage - nothing to do with "expecting it to be general knowledge".

They offered everyone else lifts and told the OP to walk.

The OP does say that, on this occasion, she wasn't the proactive greeter, and nobody greeted her. She has then realized that this is always the case - either she ways "hello" or is ignored, even if she is part of a group where the "greeter" greets everyone else.

alexdgr8 · 25/05/2026 19:29

FlippantlyShe · 25/05/2026 15:57

Where is this wonderful-sounding thing available? Is it like Pub Spy — a mystery ‘shopper’ shows up somewhere and rates it on beer ranges, prices, welcome, toilets’ cleanliness, decor etc?

Yes it's just like that.
Sorry. Can't do links.
But famous MN words
Google is your friend

Never2many · 25/05/2026 19:07

I think there are two things here.

There are obviously a lot of Christians who on their own are decent people.

But put them all in a place together, and you end up with some horrendously awful, judgemental, cliquey churches.

And the sad thing is that too many of these decent people are so inmeshed in these churches that they don’t see it until they move away and back into reality.

I know too many people who have had what they believed to be solid friendships formed within the churches they belonged to.

Then something happens, they move away, they have a life event which means they can’t go to church, and suddenly those solid friendships have disappeared.

I’ve met a lot of decent Christians.

I’ve never encountered a decent church. IMO they just don’t exist.

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