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To be absolutely depressed by parenting

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checktheoil · 24/05/2026 16:36

I don’t know if it’s just me. It often feels like it but I am absolutely depressed by parenting mine. It feels like there’s nothing good; every day longing for them to go to bed and then the same shitshow starts again the next day!

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checktheoil · 27/05/2026 22:03

I‘m sure you’re not accusing, I just genuinely was / am a bit lost. If you mean bedtime is bedtime, that’s that, thats fine and I guess it’s a bit like early mornings, one thing it they’ll lie in bed quietly but a bit more problematic if they don’t!

@TeenageRooster she’s starting at preschool in September. It will be better in some ways but in others worse. Her current nursery is year round, obviously I don’t work school holidays so no issue on a practical level, it’s just very exhausting when she and ds are together.

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bafta16 · 27/05/2026 21:52

checktheoil · 27/05/2026 21:30

Wot?

@ForWittyTealOP ah but before you become a parent you think your brilliant parenting will make it all different. Then - yes.

@bafta16 I’m not especially. But my DD is overtired and that’s leading to a lot of difficult behaviour in the day. Ds is still awake now Confused but I’m not as fussed about that because I know he’ll sleep in in the morning and also he isn’t disturbing me, in the nicest possible sense!

It is very easy to accuse others of being obsessed by sleep when they aren’t the ones disturbed overnight, woken at the crack of dawn and then get the bit of me time they have at the end of each day snatched cruelly from them!

I'm not accusing, I have lived through this. Bed time is bed time. Don't be a slave to them,

TeenageRooster · 27/05/2026 21:51

checktheoil · 27/05/2026 21:45

They only have space Mondays and Fridays. That’s why she’s leaving, but it means she’ll then be term time only. Which means she and ds will be with me all school holidays, which means I shall be a nervous frazzled wreck.

Is she moving to a different childcare provider? Can she start there early if so, even if it's only certain days? Likewise, I'd use what money was available to keep her in the present one for whatever days in August were possible. I see that the budget is limited, but I'd say one of your options here is to throw money at the problem and use childcare as extensively as you can for now, with the idea that it buys you, literally, time to decompress and also so you have more energy to tackle it all in the time you do spend with her.

Mercedes45 · 27/05/2026 21:46

FernFaery · 27/05/2026 21:37

DD was up at 6.30 today, and is still awake now. She’s been lying in bed for 2 hours now; getting up periodically to check where I am. She’s already woken her brother once by shouting MUM. I have no evening. I cannot relax.

My 2 yr old was up around the same time. He has just fallen asleep beside me, because he wont fall sleep alone in the cot. How old is your DD?
I am going to move him into the cot now because I want to shower and eat food like a human being does. He will be up again around midnight and will only fall back to sleep if I bring him into bed with me. Around 4am he will start thrashing around, hitting, kicking, hair pulling etc. I will wake up, try to protect myself and not go back to sleep.

I have a 3.5 yr old too. She is getting better at night
During the day they absolutely kill each other. And then we do that night time routine I mentioned above

Great Craic!

checktheoil · 27/05/2026 21:45

TeenageRooster · 27/05/2026 21:36

Could you do it for half or part of the week then? That's better than nothing.

They only have space Mondays and Fridays. That’s why she’s leaving, but it means she’ll then be term time only. Which means she and ds will be with me all school holidays, which means I shall be a nervous frazzled wreck.

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TheChiffchaff · 27/05/2026 21:41

JontyGentooey · 27/05/2026 13:54

I get you OP. My two are both under four. Recently I seriously considered divorcing my husband, whom I love dearly, purely because it would mean I would have every other weekend entirely alone. Everyone says nothing is harder than the teenage years but honestly I think if I could only sleep through a few nights then I'd be able to tackle anything.

The teenage years are like Google reviews. You'll always hear more from people who struggle. I loved those years. Zero to two on the other hand 😱

Mercedes45 · 27/05/2026 21:38

SusanChurchouse · 25/05/2026 08:00

Sorry but this made me think of the Katie Kirby cartoon…..

God I found this hilarious. I nearly woke up the 2 yr old demon beside me i laughed so much

I like this one

To be absolutely depressed by parenting
FernFaery · 27/05/2026 21:37

DD was up at 6.30 today, and is still awake now. She’s been lying in bed for 2 hours now; getting up periodically to check where I am. She’s already woken her brother once by shouting MUM. I have no evening. I cannot relax.

TeenageRooster · 27/05/2026 21:36

checktheoil · 27/05/2026 21:31

I know, it’s just money really and we are hit so much with bank holidays as one of her nursery days is a Monday.

Could you do it for half or part of the week then? That's better than nothing.

FernFaery · 27/05/2026 21:33

It is very easy to accuse others of being obsessed by sleep when they aren’t the ones disturbed overnight, woken at the crack of dawn and then get the bit of me time they have at the end of each day snatched cruelly from them!

Yep, they’re all chilled mannnn. They couldn’t get at all worked up about 5 broken hours of sleep, every night for 6 years 😎✌🏻 (they don’t actually go through that themselves tho, but are happy to provide advice, because they definitely would be!)

checktheoil · 27/05/2026 21:31

TeenageRooster · 27/05/2026 21:29

That plan of extending her nursery time till August - do it. I would in your shoes. You have to put your own life jacket on first and that gives you more breathing space to get a grip on it all and not be screamed at.

I know, it’s just money really and we are hit so much with bank holidays as one of her nursery days is a Monday.

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checktheoil · 27/05/2026 21:30

bafta16 · 27/05/2026 21:23

late bedtime? No. Bed time is just that.

Wot?

@ForWittyTealOP ah but before you become a parent you think your brilliant parenting will make it all different. Then - yes.

@bafta16 I’m not especially. But my DD is overtired and that’s leading to a lot of difficult behaviour in the day. Ds is still awake now Confused but I’m not as fussed about that because I know he’ll sleep in in the morning and also he isn’t disturbing me, in the nicest possible sense!

It is very easy to accuse others of being obsessed by sleep when they aren’t the ones disturbed overnight, woken at the crack of dawn and then get the bit of me time they have at the end of each day snatched cruelly from them!

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TeenageRooster · 27/05/2026 21:29

checktheoil · 27/05/2026 18:19

Not sure about orchids and dandelions but I would say I don’t know many two to three year olds who would get up themselves and entertain themselves totally unsupervised by an adult for the best part of an hour.

Mine are honestly quite nice children alone and ds probably would do that now (five and a half) but certainly I wouldn’t really be expecting any child under four to do that.

I think the heat has got to me a bit. I am actually considering having dd leave nursery at the end of August rather than July to give me a break and some one to one with ds.

That plan of extending her nursery time till August - do it. I would in your shoes. You have to put your own life jacket on first and that gives you more breathing space to get a grip on it all and not be screamed at.

ForWittyTealOP · 27/05/2026 21:27

I read a thing that said to prepare for being a parent you need to make a list of everything you like doing and then cross them off, one by one. True really.

bafta16 · 27/05/2026 21:23

late bedtime? No. Bed time is just that.

bafta16 · 27/05/2026 21:23

Kindly OP, and I get it , you seem obsessed with sleep. The more anxiety and cortisol this is creating, the worse it will get. Can you coem up with some sort of rota?

checktheoil · 27/05/2026 21:04

DDs sleep is generally a bit unsettled at the moment. She always used to be a lie in until 7 sort of child but that’s changed and she’s waking 530-6 (I know, could be worse) and then struggling to get through to bed time. Today she fell asleep at half four [shocked] only for a few minutes, but it’s enough to give her a second wind, then late bedtime. Then you’d think she’d sleep in but she doesn’t.

It’s also affecting her behaviour; lots of tantrums and crying and being generally difficult. I know shesnotgivingmeahardtimesheshavingahardtime and it’s true - but she’s really giving me a hard time as well! I do feel like I’m walking on eggshells a bit with her at the moment.

meanwhile poor ds had a play date this afternoon with a friend who was really unkind to him and lots of tears and upset. Ds isn’t very good at managing situations like that, he can’t seem to take a step away and leave the person to it for a bit.

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ALittleUnsure1 · 27/05/2026 20:48

FernFaery · 27/05/2026 13:23

Ok so here that would just mean within seconds hearing screams, hitting noises, very likely spilt food everywhere (DD can’t even reach the food cupboards), the dog running around, and general carnage. I can’t even imagine this happening for mine who are a similar age.

I don’t baby them, I’m fairly strict, but the fighting and messing about is just so awful and relentless they would never be able to do this without hell breaking loose.

That's why I say maybe we're lucky! I don't attribute it in any way to my good parenting 😂
But it was mainly directed at people who have kids that are capable of doing this (NOT at OPs kids ages, they're too young), but feel that they have to get up with their kids. I also think many parents of our generation coddle and helicopter parent a little. Many kids when given the chance are more sensible than we credit them with.

ALittleUnsure1 · 27/05/2026 20:44

SunshineCoffee5543 · 27/05/2026 14:13

4 and 7 years old is widely different to 2 and 5 years old. You get that, right?

Yes absolutely! It was to give OP hope that this will probably change pretty quickly for her ☺️

checktheoil · 27/05/2026 18:19

Not sure about orchids and dandelions but I would say I don’t know many two to three year olds who would get up themselves and entertain themselves totally unsupervised by an adult for the best part of an hour.

Mine are honestly quite nice children alone and ds probably would do that now (five and a half) but certainly I wouldn’t really be expecting any child under four to do that.

I think the heat has got to me a bit. I am actually considering having dd leave nursery at the end of August rather than July to give me a break and some one to one with ds.

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Neurodiversitydoctor · 27/05/2026 17:59

FernFaery · 27/05/2026 13:23

Ok so here that would just mean within seconds hearing screams, hitting noises, very likely spilt food everywhere (DD can’t even reach the food cupboards), the dog running around, and general carnage. I can’t even imagine this happening for mine who are a similar age.

I don’t baby them, I’m fairly strict, but the fighting and messing about is just so awful and relentless they would never be able to do this without hell breaking loose.

I rhink this absolutely speaks to the Orchid vs Dandelion narrative. Dsis and I were by all accounts very pliable and sensible girls who my parents left to play and get ourselves breakfast when we woke between 5& 6 aged 2 & 4. I know my mother told everyone who would listen (and still does) what a fantastic parent she was. The reality is we were high in agreeableness and conscientiousness in other words easy to parent.

checktheoil · 27/05/2026 17:11

JontyGentooey · 27/05/2026 13:54

I get you OP. My two are both under four. Recently I seriously considered divorcing my husband, whom I love dearly, purely because it would mean I would have every other weekend entirely alone. Everyone says nothing is harder than the teenage years but honestly I think if I could only sleep through a few nights then I'd be able to tackle anything.

I can relate to this. I’ve had to step outside now because DD won’t stop screaming for milk but won’t touch her dinner.

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checktheoil · 27/05/2026 17:02

Thanks @FernFaery where do you live I feel we would get on

@DaisyChain505 the reason I don’t want to go into DH is because it will out another username. But that aside I must admit I’m a bit lost as to what DH has done or not done as I haven’t even mentioned him!

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FernFaery · 27/05/2026 16:45

DaisyChain505 · 27/05/2026 15:09

And again, here is your DH issue, you’ve said you could tell him how you feel but no good would come of it. That isn’t what a good partner should do.

You keep deflecting and trying to steer the conversation away from your “darling” husband but that is a huge issue in your situation.

A partner should be someone you can lean on, someone who shares the load, someone who wants to know when you’re struggling, someone who wants to work together to solve the issues at hand.

Sigh.

OP has clearly said she works less than half what her DH does.

Therefore, justifiably, the lion’s share of childcare falls to her. We would expect that of him if the roles were reversed.

But this means OP becomes the default parent because it is inevitable that the parent doing 80% of the childcare will be the one who remembers and carries out all of the finer details of that childcare - play dates, doctor’s appointments, birthday parties, being the person in charge of the ‘the schedule’, knowing their current shoe size, knowing what forms need signing for school and nursery…

Of course, you could do a handover and delegate parts of it, but like OP as a part time worker I find it is simply too complex and fluid as they move from stage to stage to hand over bits of it. For example, at DD school, 1 parent had access to their app. The app does EVERYTHING - meals, trips, clubs, reports, booking parents evening, homework.

If I am working part time and doing the vast majority of school runs then it HAS to be me who does this, because all that would happen if DH did it would be ‘remember, you need to take this to school today when you drop her off’ ‘remember to ask the teacher this at pick up’ ‘remember it’s mufti day tomorrow’. See how it wouldn’t make any sense?

But then inevitably school and everything in its orbit falls to me. I do the pick ups so I’m the one who has struck up school gate friendships and play dates.

As much as you all fall of yourselves to say your DH ‘does exactly half’ I wonder if that ‘half’ really just means he spends at much physical time with them as you do. I don’t really believe they organised the last birthday party, announced they were taking DC on an independently organised play date yesterday, or reminded you it’s dentist time and assured you he’s booked an appointment and has written it in the calendar.

checktheoil · 27/05/2026 16:42

NorthFacingGardener · 27/05/2026 15:17

I have to say I’m totally confused about how your DH could be unaware of how hard work your kids are… mine is totally aware of what little monsters ours can be (because he’s there experiencing it) and we roll our eyes and commiserate about it after they’re in bed.

I don’t think he is unaware at all, but him being aware of it doesn’t really change it, does it?

I am a bit gutted as DD fell asleep on the way back from a play date. Only ten minutes but that’ll be enough to mess up bedtime <sigh>

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