Really depressed I didn’t just go on Ozempic - only maintained for a year

I can’t believe you genuinely wonder this all the time but if you do, it’s comparing two completely different things. ‘Food noise’ isn’t about choosing to ignore life threatening illness or suddenly finding willpower in extreme medical situations. It’s about a persistent, compulsive drive to eat that (for many people) feels genuinely difficult or impossible to override through willpower alone...including eating when half asleep, in pain, feeling sick or when you know you don’t even really want to.

Before I started Mounjaro, I thought ‘food noise’ was a bit of a nonsense term too. I assumed it wouldn’t work for me because I don’t just eat when I’m hungry, I literally eat all the time, regardless of what else is going on or whether I actually want food.

The fact that GLP1s switch that off instantly for people like me is exactly the point. It shows there’s a biological mechanism driving it, not just a character flaw or lack of discipline (as much as some people would love that to be the case). If you can’t relate to that, that’s understandable, I wouldn’t have been able to either without experiencing it. In the same way, I find it hard to understand compulsions like alcohol addiction as I've not lived it.

As for whether I’d eat if I had advanced colon cancer, I honestly don’t know, I’ll make a note to come back and update you if it ever happens. But in real life, people don’t behave in neat, logical ways when they’re seriously ill. You’ll see examples all the time of people continuing habits even during severe illness, like smoking during lung cancer treatment. Human behaviour under illness or distress simply isn’t that consistent or rational.

As awful as your diagnosis is, I'm not sure why it links to a scathing attack on people using weight loss medicine? Even if they were just lazy and could lose weight without the meds but chose not to, it doesn't relate to your illness, or deny you anything, in any way. And so again, I'm left wondering why people that don't need/want the meds are so vitriolic about them.

I was discussing WLI with a friend who is a consultant in the NHS and what he thinks of the people getting private prescriptions at a lower weight, I was curious if he saw it as 'misuse'. I thought he made a really good point, he said he would never advocate that the NHS should provide gym memberships or personal training for everyone in the country to stay healthy. But he would want those who can afford them and are in a position to take that responsibility to do so, and he feels the same about WLI. He is concerned at the number who absolutely can't afford them who need them though, and hopes that will change.

If someone takes a WLI due to 'vanity', staying at a healthy weight still reduces their likelihood of needing NHS support. There are many heath related conditions, or conditions complicated by weight, including many cancers.

What argument, that you think it’s ok to criticise people who use weight loss injections for vanity. I’m not going to address it as many others have, I said up thread, I’m all good with that, I think mental health is also important. You’re right, I have no argument on this, as I honestly don’t care if you wish to criticise women who use it for vanity, crack on whatever makes you feel better about your own situation.

you really seem to think you thinking less of people or wanting to criticise women for their choices is some big deal that will have people wounded. As much as I admire your sense of self grandiose, for me you can take out a full page ad, shout it from the rooftops, I simply don’t care and I doubt anyone else does, it onky reflects on you, not them.

I know you don't agree with that, you've posted it about 40 times, and I've acknowledged it each and every time.

I didn't say everyone who takes Ozempic is obese - so I don't need to stop being 'silly'. But loathing an entire group of strangers because some in the population might have misused a drug is beyond bizarre. Also, for the second time, Ozempic is only prescribed in the UK for diabetes, the people you can't find empathy for that are paying 'hundreds of pounds a month' - won't be using Ozempic. They'll be using Mounjaro (a totally different drug), or Wegovy.

Taking WLI's isn't just about looking better for obese people, it's about losing weight so they don't die young, or end up with any of the endless list of medical problems obesity causes. That's why it's prescribed on the NHS, if it was about vanity...it wouldn't be.

I really can't fathom why you're so hung up about it, if you don't need/want to use it. But that's the eternal question no one ever seems to want to answer on these threads.

Where have I claimed they are?

Neither are fat people or people on WLI. The absolute bare faced irony

I went through a phase of severe stomach aches due to SIBO. I think the answer is that your brain learns the consequences of eating and you just don’t.

'Slim people' are not a homogeneous community who all think and feel the same. What divisive crap.

Great post. You missed the main reason slim people hate WLI.
They've lost their skinny moral superiority. Their belief that being skinny means they are better. They eat better have better self control better strength look better just overall better.
And its because fat people have failed. Just dont try hard enough. Because we're lazy and stupid.
And what WLI have done is shown that's just not true. Its proven that obesity is a medical condition that can be treated.
And they hate that. But they can't say it. So they dress it up with fake concern and pseudoscience babble.

Also known as I don’t have an argument so I will attempt several “paragraphs” whilst I tell someone their opinion does not count.

Not how it works here.

Also. Read my argument. You’ve quoted it. Interestingly, you have avoided challenging any of the points in it. Why is that? I’m “Interested” 😉

Im sorry you went through this but what a horrible post.

Op this is about how you feel about yourself

if you have used wli’s you would still be beating yourself up

you have done fantastically well let yourself be proud of yourself

and wear those nice clothes I promise you no one is scrutinising yourself as much as you are. I wish I had understood this years ago but I didn’t but it’s honestly true

This is interesting. You must think people will be wounded you think less of them, but the reality is no one knows you or cares what you think,

why it’s interesting is your resentment is palpable. You deeply resent people getting these drugs and being slim. And I’m going to hazard a guess it’s women you resent getting them,

I do wonder why, do you want them. Do you suffer from envy of other women. Equate slim with conventional attractiveness.

the reality is the vast majority of women who take these meds are obese to start with. Obesity is a killer. It is the leading cause of cancer in non smokers, second in smokers, it causes heart attack, stroke, diabetes, fatty liver, and many other life limiting conditions. Managing it has enormous benefits to both the individual and to society,

yes there are a minority of non obese women who take them as they wish to be slimmer, but it is their choice, the drugs are clearly safe, the stats show us this, and so what if they wish to be slimmer. It’s not a moral failing. If it makes them feel good about themselves I’m supportive.

and yes many of the ones who were obese absolutely love it when they become slim, they enjoy their appearance again. Become more confident, happier. Mental health is important too.

and yes they can all stay on, avoid the struggle to maintain their weight, and that’s also a positive.

no one who takes the drugs, no one, does it as a first resort. Everyone tries dieting first off, but again we know it is incredibly difficult for individuals to not just get weight off, but keep it off. 80 percent regain it all back within 5 years.

these drugs are a huge advancement in medical science, a fabulous and life saving step forward. And here you are full of resentment and being bitter.

and it’s interesting to ask why,

Youv e reached goal weight. That’s fabulous. Be proud!
Youve got wobbly bits….. surely what you need is not WLI but working out, weights etc. And learn to love yourself for who you are.

I had advanced colon cancer. I could put food in my mouth and chew and swallow, but the consequences were very severe.

So I survived on milk. I didn't eat. For quite a long time.

All you "food noise" people, would the noise have been so bad you kept stuffing your face or would you miraculously have got some willpower from somewhere? Would you have needed a shot of Ozempic to go with your cancer?

I wonder this all the time.

You sound like you have a very unhealthy attitude to weight.

@HobGobblynne I was literally praising the op. I wasn’t saying anyone should be more proud or less proud. I don’t really care how anyone lost weight just that she should be proud of her body.
some people on this board would absolutely like to have lost weight not using WLI and all the side effects, cost and likely long term need. That’s all.

That was pretty horrible to say I was comparing not needing chemo to be proud. Not comparable and not ever what I meant.

Do you think everyone who takes Ozempic is obese? Don’t be silly. You’re desperate to change my argument.

I don’t agree Chemo and Ozempic deserve the same amount of empathy. That’s it.

I don’t care who injects themselves. You obviously want to look better so go for it. Good luck.

With the greatest of respect, you need to get out of this mindset.

You are a healthy weight. You don't look "awful"; would you say this about a woman your size you saw on the street?

You need to be kind to yourself, and I would say therapy might be helpful. You've maintained an amazing weight loss for a year, and are in a "normal" weight range.

GLP1 won't make you happy with your body, because nothing will. Believe me, I know, I am in a similar situation just 2 stone heavier and ten years old.

Be kind to yourself and your body. It's the only one you've got, enjoy it.

Ozempic isn’t prescribed for weight loss in the UK. And why does someone using it for vanity (which would mean it was being used outside of its intended purpose) mean it’s OK to feel no empathy for anyone that does need it?

of course it wouldn’t occur to you that it’s just like any other medication to save a life because to you being fat isn’t worthy of empathy. Obesity kills people, this drug is prescribed to prevent that, or at the least to prevent the very serious medical complications that come from being obese.

Your feelings about WLI users was clear from the start, nothing I’ve said has changed that. But even if it has, it doesn’t matter to me, I’m not here to promote them, sell them, encourage people to use them. I don’t work for Eli Lilly 😂

Ozempic is actually ok to criticise because people who use it also use it for vanity. Not many would volunteer for Chemo to lose weight! You may know absolutely no one would do that unless it meant saving their own life.

There’s your difference. That’s my thinking. If anything you’ve made me think even less of people using weight loss injections. It didn’t occur to me that anyone would compare it to having chemo!

What is this weird conspiracy thing developing, the poster clearly isn’t desperate to convince people they are fine. We even saw someone bizzarely think folks were selling them, that’s what looks desperate.

amd why do people think random strangers are desperate to have them take them, no one literally cares if you stay fat, are slim or take them or not. No one.

You think cutting out an entire food group for a year is being mindful of their health?

Then they mostly dont lose weight. Their diabetic control may improve but unless they do actually reduce net calories they dont magically lose weight.
I work with people using these meds every day im not just using tik tok and the moral superiority that slim people seem to have

Well id say you've done absolutely amazing you've shown determination been mindful of you're health .
You haven't just wanted a quick fix .
Remember losing weight keeping healthy keeping weight off is all about changing eating habits changing a mindset .
Lots of people taking weight loss jabs still dont exercise and do not change their mindset.
I'd say you have .. just keep going do it the right way x