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Was I being unreasonable to ask to move to a different section of the restaurant today?

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WhiteWidowWithAttitude · 24/05/2026 14:19

So I’m going to start off by saying that I honestly don’t think I’m being unreasonable, but this was so mad as to almost be unbelievable so I had to get some other opinions. Also, I don’t live in the UK, so on a completely different time zone, hence why it might appear that I’ve already been for Sunday lunch, far too early!

Anyway, went to a hotel/pub/restaurant today for Sunday lunch with three of my children (two early teens, one aged 20). It’s one of those places where you can choose to eat in the bistro area, outdoor beer garden or sports bar. We booked a table because it’s usually busy on a Sunday, and chose the bistro. It’s child friendly. The sports bar is more adult friendly (minors can sit there but have to be accompanied at all times), and the outdoor beer garden is for anyone, but is in close proximity to the smoking area, so you do get whiffs of it a fair bit.

We had been seated about 15 minutes, had our drinks and were looking at the menu, when nearby we heard someone “playing” a recorder. I say “playing”, because there was no discernible tune, just random blasting away. We all looked at each other, then glanced around and saw a table, a little bit behind us, with a man and woman, and two young boys aged about 3 and 4. Sure enough, one of them was enthusiastically tooting away on a multicoloured recorder. I was half expecting the mum/dad/guardian to tell them to stop. My kids weren’t exactly enjoying it (neither was I), but I said “don’t worry, I’m sure they’ll stop in a minute”, and he did. Only to whip out a fucking tambourine. At this point I did actually say “who the hell let’s their kids bring instruments to a restaurant?”

Other patrons started to glance over, and a table of three women who had just came in and sat down, who hadn’t even been served drinks yet, made some not so quiet comments and got up and just left. My eldest had just gone to use the bathroom, and it went quiet for a moment (he suffers quite badly from misophonia so was really probably affected the most out of all of us) and I was thinking “phew, it’ll be all good when he comes back”, when it started up again, and I shit you not, they had started up with a harmonica as well. So by this point it was pretty unbearable!

I got up and went over to one of the staff and said “could we be moved to a different eating area please? We are X party over there.” She looked a bit sheepish and said, “well sure, however there are also children in the bar and garden area” - I hadn’t even said why I wanted to move! So I just said, “oh I don’t have an issue with that - anything will be better than the one man band!” She stifled a laugh and moved us to the first table outside the bar, in the beer garden. It was generally noisier and I could kind of smell a little bit of smoke, but was heaven in comparison to the melee we had just been listening to!

So I suppose my question is, firstly was IBU to ask to be moved, secondly, would anyone think it’s reasonable to pack musical instruments for their very young children as a means of entertainment whilst eating at a restaurant, and finally, should the staff have asked the parents to stop them? I’m 100% not one of the MN “children shouldn’t be allowed in restaurants” kid haters, I understand that children get restless and need entertainment, I’m not even against a bit of Bluey very quietly on an iPad without earphones if your child won’t wear them (which I never personally did, but totally understand that parents need a breather sometimes), but a recorder, tambourine and fucking harmonica? If I hadn’t been there myself I don’t think I’d have believed it, but I was!

The meal ended up being lovely, so overall not spoiled, (other than the whiffs of smoke), but I just feel that we, if anyone, shouldn’t have had to be the ones who moved.

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bittertwisted · 24/05/2026 15:23

TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 24/05/2026 14:25

I was at a steak place a few days back and an adult was watching loud videos on a phone.

It’s becoming ‘ a thing’. Making A Noise. Celebrating their personal taste? Proving they’re allowed to take up space? Who knows?

I hate it
I’m really easy going but I cannot stand the selfish entitlement of this now very common behaviour

Arlanymor · 24/05/2026 15:23

It's all about choices isn't it? They chose to start up a house band in the Bistro, you decided that you'd rather sit elsewhere than ask the staff to ask the parents to stop their children from disturbing the peace of everyone else with musical instruments. But you moved, that was your choice and you weren't unreasonable to make it. If you had chosen to stay and asked the staff to intervene that would have been fine too. Any push back or rudeness on behalf of the family in response to being asked to not stage Live Aid 2026 in the middle of a hotel dining room would then have been referred on to the manager and they would have given the family two choices - instruments away or leave the establishment. People who work in hotels, sadly, have to very regularly ask people to behave properly - they are well-versed in how to handle it.

ThereAreOnlyShadesOfGrey · 24/05/2026 15:22

I do hate this 'minimum wage' business every time a MNetter posts about a problem in a restaurant or supermarket. And I hate this attitude that working in retail or anything customer facing means you should have to put up with being treated and spoken to like absolute shit by the public, often by the management, etc.

As for saying if they don’t like it/can’t do it they should find something else, let’s be honest nobody chooses to work in retail or hospitality, or any other public facing role for that matter. Most people do it because they need the money and can’t find anything else.

Instead of taking the attitude that staff are paid to put up with being treated like shit, maybe we need to start having less tolerance with some of the absolute entitled arseholes who call themselves customers.

LlynTegid · 24/05/2026 15:19

The ideal would be the unreasonable family to be refused service and asked to leave because of their behaviour (bringing such musical instruments is choosing to be unreasonable, very different from a noisy child or loud speech which is not premeditated).

However, low paid staff are not always supported if they act, so I don't blame you for taking the action you did.

PunnyPlumPanda · 24/05/2026 15:15

WhiteWidowWithAttitude · 24/05/2026 14:19

So I’m going to start off by saying that I honestly don’t think I’m being unreasonable, but this was so mad as to almost be unbelievable so I had to get some other opinions. Also, I don’t live in the UK, so on a completely different time zone, hence why it might appear that I’ve already been for Sunday lunch, far too early!

Anyway, went to a hotel/pub/restaurant today for Sunday lunch with three of my children (two early teens, one aged 20). It’s one of those places where you can choose to eat in the bistro area, outdoor beer garden or sports bar. We booked a table because it’s usually busy on a Sunday, and chose the bistro. It’s child friendly. The sports bar is more adult friendly (minors can sit there but have to be accompanied at all times), and the outdoor beer garden is for anyone, but is in close proximity to the smoking area, so you do get whiffs of it a fair bit.

We had been seated about 15 minutes, had our drinks and were looking at the menu, when nearby we heard someone “playing” a recorder. I say “playing”, because there was no discernible tune, just random blasting away. We all looked at each other, then glanced around and saw a table, a little bit behind us, with a man and woman, and two young boys aged about 3 and 4. Sure enough, one of them was enthusiastically tooting away on a multicoloured recorder. I was half expecting the mum/dad/guardian to tell them to stop. My kids weren’t exactly enjoying it (neither was I), but I said “don’t worry, I’m sure they’ll stop in a minute”, and he did. Only to whip out a fucking tambourine. At this point I did actually say “who the hell let’s their kids bring instruments to a restaurant?”

Other patrons started to glance over, and a table of three women who had just came in and sat down, who hadn’t even been served drinks yet, made some not so quiet comments and got up and just left. My eldest had just gone to use the bathroom, and it went quiet for a moment (he suffers quite badly from misophonia so was really probably affected the most out of all of us) and I was thinking “phew, it’ll be all good when he comes back”, when it started up again, and I shit you not, they had started up with a harmonica as well. So by this point it was pretty unbearable!

I got up and went over to one of the staff and said “could we be moved to a different eating area please? We are X party over there.” She looked a bit sheepish and said, “well sure, however there are also children in the bar and garden area” - I hadn’t even said why I wanted to move! So I just said, “oh I don’t have an issue with that - anything will be better than the one man band!” She stifled a laugh and moved us to the first table outside the bar, in the beer garden. It was generally noisier and I could kind of smell a little bit of smoke, but was heaven in comparison to the melee we had just been listening to!

So I suppose my question is, firstly was IBU to ask to be moved, secondly, would anyone think it’s reasonable to pack musical instruments for their very young children as a means of entertainment whilst eating at a restaurant, and finally, should the staff have asked the parents to stop them? I’m 100% not one of the MN “children shouldn’t be allowed in restaurants” kid haters, I understand that children get restless and need entertainment, I’m not even against a bit of Bluey very quietly on an iPad without earphones if your child won’t wear them (which I never personally did, but totally understand that parents need a breather sometimes), but a recorder, tambourine and fucking harmonica? If I hadn’t been there myself I don’t think I’d have believed it, but I was!

The meal ended up being lovely, so overall not spoiled, (other than the whiffs of smoke), but I just feel that we, if anyone, shouldn’t have had to be the ones who moved.

I mean, even if it was unreasonable for you to move which of course it isn’t….

who cares?

also instruments in a restaurant isn’t great but you can’t control others. You can only control how you react to the situation.

GeorgeMichaelsCat · 24/05/2026 15:14

I've asked to sit elsewhere before. There was a table of adults, loads of booze on their table, kids running around, screaming, absolutley no supervision, as if the waiting staff were there to provide childcare. We asked to be moved.

ThatsNicer · 24/05/2026 15:12

PoppieCock · 24/05/2026 14:39

Minimum wage staff should not be made ask inconsiderate people to behave normally, it's not worth the berating they'll likely receive.

I do hate this 'minimum wage' business every time a MNetter posts about a problem in a restaurant or supermarket.

It's insulting because the vast majority of minimum wage earners I know (including myself) still take great pride in their work and doing what their job description requires.

Regardless of the wage they've agreed to work for.

The staff always have the manager or proprietor to appeal to.
Deffo leave a critical post about the noise which was ignored by manager.

NotAnotherScarf · 24/05/2026 15:12

PoppieCock · 24/05/2026 14:39

Minimum wage staff should not be made ask inconsiderate people to behave normally, it's not worth the berating they'll likely receive.

I do hate this 'minimum wage' business every time a MNetter posts about a problem in a restaurant or supermarket.

It's insulting because the vast majority of minimum wage earners I know (including myself) still take great pride in their work and doing what their job description requires.

Regardless of the wage they've agreed to work for.

The trouble is a lot of weekend staff , at least here locally, are school kids earning a bit of money and don't have the confidence/life experience to do this.

However, there should be a manager on hand to deal with it

HostaCentral · 24/05/2026 15:10

WhiteWidowWithAttitude · 24/05/2026 15:01

To be fair to the staff, they were all quite young - 20 - 25yrs old, and probably didn’t want to get a mouthful for asking the parents to tell their kids to stop. I think anyone with the hide to let their children create a disturbance like that has the potential to react poorly to being challenged.

And yes, I suppose I should/could have approached them myself, and I’m not a shrinking violet, but again, my children would have been embarrassed and I didn’t want to upset them in the process.

They need better training and support. My DD works in retail, its sometimes shit. But also you have to be pretty robust to put up, or not, with some peoples behaviour. They could have asked them to leave, nicely, sorry, we have been asked by several other customers, and we have nowhere else to move them too, so please be quiet or leave the premises. Sorry and goodbye.

WhiteWidowWithAttitude · 24/05/2026 15:07

7238SM · 24/05/2026 15:02

Was this them OP? Sorry, but I was laughing so much reading your thread.

YANBU to ask to move at all. The staff should have said something to them, especially when multiple tables started getting away from it.

Hahahaha. This did make me laugh. Honestly, I think the only thing that could have made it any worse was a brass instrument or a base drum!

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HostaCentral · 24/05/2026 15:06

Thing is, if nobody tells these kinds of parents that the behaviour is unacceptable and ruining everyone else's day, they probably are completely oblivious and carry on, because, you know, kids will be kids..... Like phones and eating in cinemas, singing along at theatres, people have lost the plot. Do what you like in your own home, coming out into the community requires acceptance of social norms, and not pissing everyone else off. See also dogs licking and barking and jumping up and mothers changing nappies on cafe tables. IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.

Electricsausages · 24/05/2026 15:06

Who the frig takes instruments to a restaurant

7238SM · 24/05/2026 15:02

Was this them OP? Sorry, but I was laughing so much reading your thread.

YANBU to ask to move at all. The staff should have said something to them, especially when multiple tables started getting away from it.

Daniel Tigers Neighborhood Family GIF by PBS KIDS
Badbadbunny · 24/05/2026 15:01

RightOnTheEdge · 24/05/2026 14:58

Posters say this all the time on here. It's honestly really patronising.

Yes it is the staff's job to ask customers to behave and stop disturbing other customers. If the customer berates them or the staff don't feel comfortable then they should go ask a manager to deal with it.
Just because they get minimum wage it doesn't mean they shouldn't do the job that they are paid for.

I agree. I hate the "only minimum wage" crap that's so often spouted these days. So what? It's STILL their job, regardless of their wage. If they don't like it, and don't want to do the job, then bugger off and let someone else have the job who'll do it properly. Being "only" on minimum wage doesn't let them off doing the job to the required standard.

WhiteWidowWithAttitude · 24/05/2026 15:01

To be fair to the staff, they were all quite young - 20 - 25yrs old, and probably didn’t want to get a mouthful for asking the parents to tell their kids to stop. I think anyone with the hide to let their children create a disturbance like that has the potential to react poorly to being challenged.

And yes, I suppose I should/could have approached them myself, and I’m not a shrinking violet, but again, my children would have been embarrassed and I didn’t want to upset them in the process.

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PoppieCock · 24/05/2026 14:58

DalmationalAnthem · 24/05/2026 14:45

I worked in a shit job on the bare legal minimum wage for almost 20 years. No I would not tell customers to behave better for whatever reason. That's for the owner who is free to be shouted at, called names, sworn at and squared up to, all he fancies.
Employers get what they pay for. 🤷

Anyway, it doesn't matter, original poster moved tables, no big deal, no dilemma.

Edited

Well I would, as would most of the staff I worked with.

"Excuse me, do you think you could take the instruments off the kids, just while they're in the restaurant - thanks" 🤷‍♂️

Any resistance and the manager deals with it.

RightOnTheEdge · 24/05/2026 14:58

DalmationalAnthem · 24/05/2026 14:27

It's fine to move for any reason.

Inconsiderate people exist in abundance.

Minimum wage staff should not be made ask inconsiderate people to behave normally, it's not worth the berating they'll likely receive.

Posters say this all the time on here. It's honestly really patronising.

Yes it is the staff's job to ask customers to behave and stop disturbing other customers. If the customer berates them or the staff don't feel comfortable then they should go ask a manager to deal with it.
Just because they get minimum wage it doesn't mean they shouldn't do the job that they are paid for.

MyArtfulGreySloth · 24/05/2026 14:56

The parents who chose to allow their children to play with bloody musical instruments in a restaurant are absolute selfish entitled twats.

BringBackCatsEyes · 24/05/2026 14:56

Why would you think you might be unreasonable to ask to move in this circumstance?
Of course not. I asked to be moved yesterday because despite how warm it was outside I did not want to sit right under the aircon which was blowing my hair around it was on so high.
And of course decent parents/carers don't allow their children to play musical instruments in a dining area. Very poor management if they didn't ask them to stop.

Feis123 · 24/05/2026 14:54

I don't know when it became the norm, but these days there are people who have gone fucking mad - cackling like hyenas in cafes and restaurants, loud, carrying voices in theatres, braying laughter, both men and women in public places. Manners have gone unless you are in a normal rules-enforced school with strict teachers. Shrieking on their mobile phones - on public transport and in quiet carriages. People put up with this shit, nobody tells anyone to shut the f up.

WhiteWidowWithAttitude · 24/05/2026 14:53

Conversationalcheddar · 24/05/2026 14:45

Came here to be annoyed at another kid-bashing post. Quickly changed my mind. YANBU, that’s 100% unreasonable. I believe kids need to be in public spaces (that they are allowed into) to learn to be in the world but that it’s the parents responsibility to make sure that, in the process, they are ACTIVELY making sure they are teaching them to be around other people.

Thank you - I am definitely not of the “kid bashing” ilk - in fact, some of the threads I read on here make me despair! I’ve been through the very close in age, trying to placate very young children stage - twice! I totally get that sometimes children will be a bit annoying for people with no (or grown up) children - it’s just a fact of life, and if they are never taken to and socialised in these situations then they’ll never learn. I just didn’t want to listen to a cacophony of pre-school musical instruments. Unfortunately that meant that we ended up having to sit in a section that we hadn’t booked, which resulted in us having to smell second hand smoke during our meal (which was one of the reasons that I booked the bistro in the first place).

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ChildlessCatLady · 24/05/2026 14:48

Not unreasonable to ask to be moved, especially as you'd given it some time for it to stop. It's also not unreasonable the family had instruments with them; they might have been coming or going from somewhere where it would be appropriate to play them. But if the children were too young to know better than to play in the restaurant the parents should have stopped them.

I don't even see it as a "children" issue, though; it could have been a teen or adult playing an instrument - regardless, they'd typically have been asked to stop by staff. It may not be fair to expect staff to do this but if the situation arises it makes sense that they do ask the noisemakers to stop rather than having multiple groups of customers request to be moved or walk out. I suspect if buskers had come in, playing quite a bit more competently, they'd have been moved on quickly enough.

Tabarnak · 24/05/2026 14:46

Ask to be moved in a restaurant for whatever reason you choose, sun in your eyes, too near the window, door toilet, just prefer elsewhere, anything! Why would you doubt this?

secondly politely asking for kids to stop unreasonable noise, music to be turned down, dog to stop jumping on you, kids running round your table, is not ‘causing a scene’. It is making a polite , direct, reasonable request. Modelling standing up for reasonable requests with politeness is good for children.

And obviously equipping kids with musical instruments in a restaurant is ridiculous behaviour..

Lahsania · 24/05/2026 14:46

The restaurant owners were surely at fault for allowing the noise pollution. You definitely weren’t unreasonable. I’ve left restaurants entirely due to people placing their phones on their table and playing their own music! Unbelievably selfish and anti social. It’s Entitled behaviour that repulses me.

Conversationalcheddar · 24/05/2026 14:45

Came here to be annoyed at another kid-bashing post. Quickly changed my mind. YANBU, that’s 100% unreasonable. I believe kids need to be in public spaces (that they are allowed into) to learn to be in the world but that it’s the parents responsibility to make sure that, in the process, they are ACTIVELY making sure they are teaching them to be around other people.