Judge lets three boy rapist go free with no jail time

Killed or murdered

They’ve been written dozens of times in this thread and in the other threads about the case.

What are you talking about? Of course you are allowed to write rape/rapist. I still don’t know what unalive means though.

We’re not allowed to write those words are we.

Yes or at least a mandatory minimum custodial sentence
eg 40 years to WLT for r
It’s getting ridiculously out of hand that a single mother parent can go to jail for benefit fraud (often for survival rather than greed) and her kids be traumatized and put in care yet a disgusting violater can waltz round free.

The judge can't impose his own sentence.

They have to sentence within the proscribed guidelines for the conviction, bearing in mind both aggravating and mitigating factors.

They cannot conjure up a sentence based on their own particular mores.

Welcome to the patriarchy

The judge is probably ab aging misogynistic prick that thinks it was a bit of horse play that got out of hand. Why are these people allowed to be in these positions???

What is with these asterisks asterisks? Can’t you bring yourself to type ‘rapists’? And what on earth does ‘inalive’ mean?

Agreed. Also arguably in terms of semantics it's their raping that has criminalised them, not the sentencing.

I get the letter of the law is that it's the process that would deem them criminal/not criminal but they were guilty of a crime, so they are criminals by their actions not just the application (or not!) of the "justice" (ha!) system

For every one of us women daughters, niece's ,mothers, granddaughters, friends this is fucking disgraceful and disgusting and two fingers in the faces of those young girls ..imagine if this was our daughter or sister or friend etc fucking judge is saying it’s ok lads you go and have your life imagine how those girls and their families felt
They will never go over this and I would seriously worry about their mental health

What would a blanket system look like? A fixed sentence for every offence?

I think r**ists should be jailed for life. They unalive a persons spirit.

See here for the gov link

Guidance - Apply to have an unduly lenient sentence reviewed – GOV.UK

The irony of it is If I can’t type what I really want to say as I’d probably get arrested for hurty words and go to jail. However it seems that horrible r word is fair game.
Judges should not be able to impose their own sentence, it should be a blanket system

They also filmed it and shared the footage. There were charges relating to that too.

They might be children in age according to the judge -who imho did not do his job. But these males are sadly likely to be a danger to other women and the judge not only did wrong by the victims -also children! But has endangered other females in his inertia and male bias.

He can't have any idea what a female lived experience is, he was so quick to empathise with the young males to the exclusion of the equally young female victims.

This should be a watershed moment.

We really need to get a grip and stop pandering to the different "communities" who have their own values, such as Irish travellers. The law should be the same for everyone living in the country. The old police oath was "without fear or favour" yet, as someone who was in the police for a few years, we were told to "ignore" minor offences from our local significant Irish traveller community and not arrest for more major crimes without prior approval of the duty sergeant. It was so wrong back then and it seems to be worse these days now that there are other communities with their own "laws".

I definitely take it that the judge is at least a misogynist.

It's beyond disgusting, and I fervently hope that his decision is overturned. I would have imposed the maximum sentence I was allowed to. It's gang rape, ffs! Since when was that not one of the most serious crimes imaginable?

Edit: And the use of ADHD as an excuse has me RAGING. ADHD does NOT cause anyone to commit crimes; that's completely irrelevant. I have ADHD and I can tell you that I have never had the urge to rape anyone. 😡 I'm getting extremely tired of the world using ADHD as an excuse for crime, like we're all dangerous.

This could be the same here if we get politicians who want it.

As one of the girls herself said - what was the point in me going through the process, having to relive what happened constantly?

But it’s ok, the lads were only found guilty of 11 charges, behaved well in court and pleaded not guilty but were found guilty. Nothing to see here, move along.

Shocking. Once again the justice system seems to favour the criminals rather than the victims.

Stories like this make me so angry! Natasha went through the horrific incident itself, then she was brave enough to report it and go through the whole ordeal of a court case. The justice system failed her and then it was Natasha who had to kick up a fuss and go through another ordeal just to get the justice she should have had in the first place! She’s had more punishment through all of that than the scumbag who attacked her!

Have a look at natasha O'Brien in Ireland. She was beaten unconscious by a serving soldier. Judge didn't impose a sentence because it would damage his career. Natasha started a very successful campaign and he was sentenced.

I don't think men should preside over female rape cases. Whether that makes me sexist, I couldn't give a fuck.

Men hate women. This is why rape charges are woefully low.

Anyone to NAMALT me can go away.