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AIBU to feel life in the UK has worsened since Covid?

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MerryAmberViper · 22/05/2026 22:39

feel everything is just getting worse since covid

Im on a good salary of 32k live alone entitled to no benefits and lucky enough I can afford to put heating on in winter but have to be careful

crime everywhere with lenient punishment or sometimes no punishment at all
everyone seems entitled angry or depressed and no one seems to care about following the law
clear resentment and disagreement in country people on social media saying vote green or vote reform and if you dont you are terrible
divided country especially with brexit when inflation being caused by covid and the war brexit hasnt changed much
stagnant salaries if you can even get a job at all
everything expensive
people on great salaries of 100k+ moaning about the tax they pay because they are bad with managing their money even though they are on over double average salary when people like myself manage on much less
massive wealth inequality
NHS and public services run down
terrible government both tories and labour

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Oasisinthearea · 23/05/2026 16:47

Yeh it’s all shit. 2012 was the last decent year

ByPinkOP · 23/05/2026 16:42

MerryAmberViper · 22/05/2026 22:49

@Huckleberries oh dont be redicilous I just tried that and you still have over double what I earn after tax

So you pay childcare and living costs for two/three other people on that?

Judellie · 23/05/2026 16:37

ColdAsAWitches · 22/05/2026 23:20

Every other European country had COVID, energy cost increases and austerity. They are not falling apart the way the UK is. Saying Brexit is only a tiny part of the problem is sticking your fingers in your ears because you don't want to hear the truth.

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Not certain about that; was in Arnhem in the Netherlands last week and the place was filthy; I don't think they ever clean their 'intercity' trains tho the local ones weren't as bad. Basically the UK is a LOT cleaner then it was there and I'm grateful for that.

FoulBlister · 23/05/2026 11:11

Your Original Post is 100% negative and sounds like it's been 90% driven by social media and the constant drip, drip of negative articles in the media.

Get out in the world - travel by train, meet real people, see a million acts of kindness and generosity happen every day. Watch people move around London on efficient public transport - helping mums with prams on and off buses and standing up so older folk can sit down on the tube. See hundreds of thousands of people stand back to let people off first.

So many millions of people abiding the law, enjoying the free museums, safely having picnics with their families in parks, working to make our streets clean/safe/efficient, volunteering to put flowers in parks, donating to charity, litter picking, paying taxes and thinking that's the price you pay for society.

I've just traveled Britain extensively by public transport for six months. I have witnessed no crime, been taken everywhere by efficient buses and trains operated by polite, knowledgeable, kind, helpful staff. I've eaten fantastic local food and met thousands of interesting, fun, gentle people from overseas tourists to Indian waiters here to learn the language to policemen to old ladies on benches.

Not everyone is resentful, angry, entitled, lawbreaking or depressed and, if the people you meet in your day to day life are then change the people you meet.

Yes the economy is taking a nose dive for lots of reasons VERY MUCH INCLUDING BREXIT, yes some people will always be greedy, but there is SO MUCH GOOD.

Anyone who says Broken Britain is missing a lot of really good stuff that goes on right under their nose a million times every single day.

Friendlygingercat · 23/05/2026 09:55

I can understand the higher earners of around £100,000 and the amount they lose to the grubby hands of the tax man because of cliff edges. They are probably people (like myself) who studied for many years to qualify in their profession. Each salary rise is worth far less becaue the system is corrupt and unfair. At my GP all the doctors work part time - and probaby pay large sums into their pension fund rather than having it filched from them.There is a temptation to drop your hours and find a cash in hand side hustle to beat the system. As a single pensioner I have put my share into the community and am still being exonomically raped to pay for services I do now want and cannot use.

WTAFIsWrongWithPeople · 23/05/2026 09:35

dreamreal · 23/05/2026 09:26

So you voted Brexit OP and are now living the reality of what you voted for.

Indeed. I love the concept that you can just ignore the impact of such a monumental -clusterfuck- change to our constitution and blame all the troubles on other things.

But then quite a large proportion of people expected sunshine and rainbows and ignored/couldn’t understand any of the serious messages being shared on the downsides.

dreamreal · 23/05/2026 09:26

So you voted Brexit OP and are now living the reality of what you voted for.

GoodkneeBadKnee · 23/05/2026 09:24

ChristPleaseJustStop · 22/05/2026 23:03

Of course things have got more expensive for you. They've got more expensive for everyone.

The NHS is still poor.

We've got and had terrible governments across the whole country.

You don't need to lie to try and pretend you're somehow better than everyone else so these things that affect everyone don't affect you! If you really think you are better than everyone else and don't get touched by plebeian things like pricing or the NHS, then prove it.

Things being more expensive haven't affected me because I live within my means. I don't buy things I can't afford. Water bill has gone up, annoyingly, but like all bills, you find a way, right?Luckily. I haven't needed to use the NHS since Covid. I never said I'm better than anyone, so not sure where you got that from? Also, plebian? Are you OK??

WTAFIsWrongWithPeople · 23/05/2026 09:19

MerryAmberViper · 22/05/2026 23:04

wonder if the NHS or UK as a whole will ever improve

just seems to keep going downhill

Funny you should ask that.

Here’s just one of the impacts of Brexit on the NHS. I bet this isn’t what you thought you were voting for, but it decimated the NHS Trust I worked for. And then we had a second wave of exits after the appalling handling of Covid by the government - we lost loads of British staff, either to non-NHS jobs or they moved abroad where conditions are better.

Slow clap for you and your “£350m for the NHS” cronies who couldn’t spot a lie if it sat on your nose.

www.surrey.ac.uk/news/brexit-has-caused-1485-additional-deaths-year-due-eu-nurses-leaving-uk

TheOliveDreamer · 23/05/2026 00:51

It's harder to build generational wealth now, the boom years are over.

Its now just going to be about a mega elite super rich class, and every else. Of course if you don't a flashy lifestyle it doesn't really matter. You just have to aim for average or slightly above average to be comfortable and cut your cloth accordingly.

I also agree that working from home is not good for mental health.

Livelovebehappy · 23/05/2026 00:43

beautifuldaytosavelives · 23/05/2026 00:11

£32k isn’t a good salary.

It’s a pretty okay salary if you live in the North, where if you are on your own, like OP, you can get a nice terrace in a nice area for less than £100k, as opposed to,possibly getting a bed in someone’s shed in 2026.

nixon1976 · 23/05/2026 00:40

sleepwouldbenice · 22/05/2026 23:43

Very basic research ( non biased) would tell you that brexit was a key factor...

Overall
Brexit
Covid
Ukraine war
Iran war
Other shocks like tariffs and Truss
We weren't doing great before these but they have really compounded the issue

Brexit is hugely to blame.

Plus (obviously) the 2008 worldwide financial crisis and austerity that followed it.

I agree with PPs that WFH has been terrible for mental health. Great for some of us, not great for new starters or the overall workforce

Livelovebehappy · 23/05/2026 00:37

dannyufcfan · 22/05/2026 23:06

It has very little to do with covid.

It's brexshite.

Covid has definitely been partially responsible for the dire NHS. GPs liked not having to have face to face contact with patients so much during COVID, that they carried it on. Now we have a situation where doctors waiting rooms are empty because the GPs are all at home diagnosing you over the phone.

Crispsandcola · 23/05/2026 00:32

YANBU welcome to late stage capitalism 😊 COVID wasn't the only thing that happened. Remember that little thing called Brexit? It just hastened the decline a bit. It's going to get a lot worse to so buckle up buttercup.

beautifuldaytosavelives · 23/05/2026 00:23

MerryAmberViper · 22/05/2026 23:16

@MasterBeth but is it really?

The costs in the economy are again covid and the war around energy and supply shocks
look at supermarkets this week basically saying no to government to cap costs and saying energy prices being bought under control would help reduce prices energy prices and instability are again due to wars

Im not saying there is no effect from brexit and it was an own goal for uk but the effect of brexit is tiny compared to everything else
trade with europe yes I accept more difficult but it hasnt stopped

people just seem on here to moan about brexit when at the moment the uk has so many bigger more important problems

You are woefully ill informed if you think Brexit has a minor effect on the overall economic financial and wider wellbeing of our country. The costs of Brexit were already being felt and have been compounded by the impact of Covid and then the war on Ukraine.
Also, seek out your comma key for the benefit of all readers.

beautifuldaytosavelives · 23/05/2026 00:11

£32k isn’t a good salary.

NonComm · 23/05/2026 00:02

MasterBeth · 22/05/2026 23:29

Thatcher was an evil witch but the UK economy still grew strongly during the late 80s and 90s, up until 2008. Cameron and Osbourne's austerity choked growth and left us with the infrastructure/ investment/ productivity crisis we have today.

I’m older now and I can see that post WW2, people wanted to do better; intro of the nhs, better education, building social housing, more social mobility , joining the Common Market etc. Whereas Thatcher only thought of the rich and started dismantling; privatising our utilities, selling social housing and not letting councils use the money to build more but also no strategy to replace the mining industry eg she could have got us into renewables in the 80’s, created jobs for the former miners but no and we’re years behind now. Norway invested their North Sea Oil into a Sovereign Fund worth one trillion pounds that benefits its citizens but Thatcher sold ours off. She famously said that ‘there’s no such thing as society’. I’m sure that there’s more but the lack of strategic planning has continued since and I think that’s why most things are a bit shit. It’s also all made worse by our appalling billionaire owned mainstream media and social media.
Sad times but hopefully we’ll all get through it.

sleepwouldbenice · 22/05/2026 23:43

MerryAmberViper · 22/05/2026 22:50

@MasterBeth I dont agree with you on brexit but yeh austerity has really damaged this country

Very basic research ( non biased) would tell you that brexit was a key factor...

Overall
Brexit
Covid
Ukraine war
Iran war
Other shocks like tariffs and Truss
We weren't doing great before these but they have really compounded the issue

MerryAmberViper · 22/05/2026 23:39

84% agree

why dont only 14% of you agree voting I bu?

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MerryAmberViper · 22/05/2026 23:36

jumpingjohnny · 22/05/2026 23:33

I think you are naive to the price difference between outside Birmingham and the South East, not even London, outside the M25. A terrace in London would be a hell of a lot more. Even somewhere like Clapham, you'd expect to pay well over £1m for a 2 up, 2 down.

@jumpingjohnny
like I said apart from london....
Clapham is near london

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jumpingjohnny · 22/05/2026 23:33

MerryAmberViper · 22/05/2026 23:19

Oh come on

apart from london and maybe some centres of biggest cities most terraced houses dont cost 800k and even in places where they do there is cheaper housing nearby

I think you are naive to the price difference between outside Birmingham and the South East, not even London, outside the M25. A terrace in London would be a hell of a lot more. Even somewhere like Clapham, you'd expect to pay well over £1m for a 2 up, 2 down.

MasterBeth · 22/05/2026 23:33

MerryAmberViper · 22/05/2026 23:16

@MasterBeth but is it really?

The costs in the economy are again covid and the war around energy and supply shocks
look at supermarkets this week basically saying no to government to cap costs and saying energy prices being bought under control would help reduce prices energy prices and instability are again due to wars

Im not saying there is no effect from brexit and it was an own goal for uk but the effect of brexit is tiny compared to everything else
trade with europe yes I accept more difficult but it hasnt stopped

people just seem on here to moan about brexit when at the moment the uk has so many bigger more important problems

Yes, there are global shocks to our economy beyond Brexit, but the fact we can't trade as simply and freely with our closest neighbours has meant we are less able to cope with those shocks.

Brexit would have damaged us in healthier times. It's had an even bigger impact when there are global catastrophes all around us

MerryAmberViper · 22/05/2026 23:32

yes but with all this credit crunch stuff you didnt have 10% inflation followed by high or near high inflation after that for 3-4 years

anyway good night mumsnetters I need to go and tickle my cactus

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MasterBeth · 22/05/2026 23:29

NonComm · 22/05/2026 23:25

Austerity and Brexit have really changed the UK for the worse, however, I think that the rot really started with Thatcher.

Thatcher was an evil witch but the UK economy still grew strongly during the late 80s and 90s, up until 2008. Cameron and Osbourne's austerity choked growth and left us with the infrastructure/ investment/ productivity crisis we have today.

mumofoneAloneandwell · 22/05/2026 23:25

Theolittle · 22/05/2026 22:45

i think everything you describe came following the 2008 worldwide financial crisis and the years of austerity that followed. Wages have been stagnant for more than 5 years

Homeworking has been the worst thing from Covid - don’t think it’s good at all for mental health

Agree re 2008

They keep renaming the credit crunch but its still here 20 years later and life is worse

I think its improved since the pandemic for me - telephone appointments have been a godsend