AIBU to feel life in the UK has worsened since Covid?

“Expensive locations like London” is a bit crass. There’s huge variation in prices across London although, I agree, overall usually more expensive than areas outside London

I mean I literally said “where they are in the country”

I don’t have two kids in nursery, I was using this as a hypothetical situation. But nice assumption to make there - I have one school aged child and live in a cheap house and own my own car as a matter of fact.

I am just pointing out that your blanket statement that anyone earning over £100k, no matter their circumstances or where they are in the country, must be really comfortable unless they are bad with money.

So you and your family are just those that live in your house? That's a very narrow point of reference.

The signs started around Covid. The rot started in 1997 when Labour came to power. You can trace everything that is wrong with this country back to that time.

Hollowing out of the economy
Breakdown of independent institutions and giving power away so nothing gets done in this country
Mass immigration
Selling off the gold
Massive welfare bill and rolling business on to cheap labour.

It’s just that everything that followed just followed the same pattern. And Covid was just a time for the corrupt government and civil servants to openly steal from the public.

On a salary of £63000, take home pay is less than £4000 per month. People probably did budget but would not have anticipated a massive cost of living increase. Raising children is expensive and clubs, petrol, food have increased.

What a silly statement, I am just meaning people with numerous children won’t be as well off as you think someone should be when earning double what you are. And who do you think will pay your pension and be carers when you are old?

And its unnecessarily nasty.

Against the sort of delays you can come up against in road traffic sitting with a coffee on a train platform waiting for 15 minutes is a pleasure.

I honestly didn't see anyone acting like a dick. School kids larking about, a few people a bit drunk yes but no shoplifting. Of course I saw graffiti but I come from a city famous for street art so perhaps am immune to it.

Unless you have one or two kids in nursery and lose your 30 hours free childcare to the tune of thousands a month because you earn one pound over £100k

All that money that was wasted during covid didn't help (paying people to stay at home/dodgy PPE contracts and fraudulent bounce back loans) hasn't helped. Did people really not realise it would need to be recouped?

I’m also struggling to believe this although I agreed with a lot of your post. A 15 minute delay is pretty significant. I can’t believe that you didn’t see one person acting like a dick or didn’t see any shoplifting, graffiti, etc.

😂 oh hello Nigel

I can’t believe there are people still peddling this bullshit. On paper yes, but economists broadly agree on the negative effects of Brexit for this country.

Of course Brexit is a factor. It is incredible that a country like this has scored such a terrible, self destructive own goal.

the 2008 crisis is where things started going wrong, Brexit is nail in coffin and Covid and Ukraine / Iran wars have compounded everything.

Let me fix your thread title for you:

AIBU to feel life in the UK has worsened since Brexit?

Careful not to peak too soon. You're really really funny.

Yes there have been numerous threads about it. The ticking timebomb is that unless governments start to seriously address the problem that in the next twenty/ thirty years time there will not be enough people working and paying tax to support an increasingly ageing population then we are going to have some very difficult choices to make.

I really agree with this. I’ve been on a few long bus journeys in London recently, everyone was fine, friendly and helpful, staff and passengers. I went past Trafalgar Square at around 9.30pm on Friday and it had been taken over by Middlesbrough supporters, even visiting northerners know how to have fun and enjoy themselves 😹
I would add that I have had outstanding NHS treatment and experiences for years and so have many of my extended family, in different areas although all South East. Without Brexit we would have to follow EU rules on gender self ID so I’m grateful we are autonomous on that issue

You lost me at ‘good salary of 32k.’

That’s barely above minimum wage.

Some bit affect me and some bits don’t .

I work in a school as a ta and so see first hand that we have halved our ta numbers (and lunch staff and caretakers) in the ten years I have been there. Yet sen numbers have gone up.

I also see that we( ta ) are fairly regularly used as cover for sickness and ppa , where as ten years ago that would never have happened, a supply would have come in. (still on minimum wage though 🙄)

that’s purely because schools have absolutely no money and going into a deficit

we live in a low crime area generally, but still see an increase in boy racers during the night , vandalism and no police anywhere.

daughter going to uni to study nursing- but apparently there’s a recruit crisis (not too worried as she could go into nursing homes , and they will start hiring eventually) money to send her comes from parent top ups if you are earning- even if it’s a very low wage (ie a ta with a degree on minimum wage)

i Do think lots of people are addicted to phones and social media, more then we realise (and I probably included myself in that number) that’s going to highlight as a real problem in a few years.

behaviour in schools since Covid has seen a real decline, and I know lots of people blame different things, but honestly I think it’s a mix of lots of different issues that cause an overall problem (having half the staff isn’t helping, a generation of parents that can’t say no/ cope when their child is disappointed/ kids coming into school already 3 hours of YouTube deep for the day and then being separated from their beloved device and the withdrawal- but both parents have to work full time so what are you going to do ? Someone needs to babysit the kids and before school YouTube does it)

personally for me life is better than in Covid , because my kids are now fairly independent (ish) we have more money (husbands wage not me ha) and our very old mortgage is low, I am 8 stone lighter and we have a lovely allotment to escape to which is nice to even just go sit in on a sunny day with a cup of tea- especially when we have little money. I even have £1500 in my savings/ shares account (slightly mared by the 4k of household debt we have, but that’s less debt and more savings then we had in COVID)