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To think a grandparent who hits DC can never see DC alone

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mcrlover · 22/05/2026 20:17

Posted about this a while back, and am ashamed to say I haven't resolved anything with DH. DH's dad hits his grandkids (my nieces). Their mum (the grandfather's DIL) didn't like it and told the grandfather so - he gave her the silent treatment for year, she caved, now they are talking again and she is turning a blind eye to the abuse.

That side of the family live in a different country. We are about to go stay in that country for a month. Grandparents wanted to babysit our DC (nearly 1 year old, I can see the start of minitantrums coming already), I said no so we have organised daycare. I work full time, my DH does not. DH and I have had so many arguments - he refuses to tell his DF that we don't want him hitting our DC. DH has never hit our DC, but he seems afraid of his own DF (though would never admit it). Now DH says his parents will collect DC from daycare (usually that's my DH's job while I work).

I don't know what to do. Hate my DH right now. Do I tell the grandfather he can never hit our DC, before allowing him to collect DC from daycare (maybe he wouldn't listen anyway?) Do I switch my work hours to pick up DC from daycare and continue working in the evenings after she's in bed (sounds like a miserable month for me).

AIBU in thinking there isn't even any point in trying to talk to grandfather about it anyway, as it will never be safe to leave DC with him, no matter how the conversation went (remembering what happened with my SIL)? Has anyone had an experience where they managed to "convince" grandparent to not be physically violent? Seems unlikely!

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Nousernameideaaga · 04/08/2026 12:40

He should never see them again. Supervised or not.

And if your own DH wants to place your own children with the same abusive man , then you have no choice but to leave your husband , whether you want to or not.

GardenerJayne · 04/08/2026 12:39

I'm going deep and fundamental. Speak with a therapist. Try reading Families and How to Survive Them by John Cleese & his psychologist pal.
This family issue is about power, control and loyalty. My heart goes out to both you and your husband.
His father may be very controlling. If so, it will help you to think of when you have felt intense fear yourself and imagine your husband experiencing that fear from early childhood. F in Law is not respecting the parents. He's not respecting his son. He's certainly not respecting you. He exercises power through controlling his son. Your husband doesn't realise he's damaging his marriage by his disloyalty to you. He must fear his dad's disapproval terribly...existentially? He's putting his dad before you and his child's safety and well-being. He doesnt realise because he's been shaped by a life of parental control.
If I'm right, do see a family psychologist. You need help to save a good marriage & your lovely family.xx

mcrlover · 22/05/2026 22:08

I spoke to the SIL about it, she minimised it and said I was being sensitive. Considered calling the police, but it would be my word against literally everyone else in the family, including the nieces' parents, and I read that then it can actually make the abuser resort to even more violence against the kids as a "punishment"

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DalmationalAnthem · 22/05/2026 21:53

DH wanted us to leave DC with his parents,

He's a monster. He wants to leave your kid with violent child abusers. I don't know how the marriage can continue.
Have any of the abusers or their supporters been reported for their attacks?

CheeseWisely · 22/05/2026 21:37

Honestly, my child would never see a Grandparent that smacks children, never mind be left alone with them.

LancashireButterPie · 22/05/2026 21:35

WTAF.
So you know your nieces are being abused and you are doing nothing to stop it?
I'm sorry OP but safeguarding is everyone's business. Find your bloody courage and speak up.
This has to stop and if you do nothing then you are complicit in it.

GreenSmallBird · 22/05/2026 21:23

I would refuse to go - if I thought I’d have to put my child in day care in another country because I didn’t think they were safe with family whilst I was at work there is no way I would be going. What is your DH doing the month you are there?

mcrlover · 22/05/2026 21:20

Thanks everyone for your advice. DH works very part-time and is looking for work at the moment. I already told DH that the grandfather is not to be alone with DC, that's why we arranged daycare in the first place - DH wanted us to leave DC with his parents, I said we aren't going if we don't have daycare in place. Which is why I'm even more furious now that DH has casually dropped that his parents will pick DH up from daycare.

Great idea to tell daycare that grandparents aren't to collect DC, thanks.

I might be wrong, but even if we did split up, DH wouldn't be allowed to fly DC abroad to visit his family without my permission, right?

I don't want to split up from his, but I am at my wits end about how to get through to DH about this matter. He himself has never shown signs of being physically abusive towards DC, but I agree where is his paternal instinct to protect his own DC from harm?!!

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MadMadMad · 22/05/2026 21:13

You are being unreasonable going to stay for a month with DC knowing the situation, just stay away and keep your child safe.

ClaredeBear · 22/05/2026 21:10

Esmeraldathe3rd · 22/05/2026 20:40

Problem with this is she then can't stop him letting his parents babysit her kids during his contact time.
I could never have sex with such a wet blanket though.

That’s very true.

Malinia · 22/05/2026 20:53

I would give the passports to my best friend to keep safe and refuse to go. I would also be tearing DH a new one over this.

Getmeacoffeenow · 22/05/2026 20:49

Someone would have to walk over my cold dead body before I let them anywhere near my kids thinking that hitting them is ok.

Absolutely fucking not. I would
leave my DH over this if I had to.

Mother nature made mothers powerful protectors, that’s our most important job.

sprigatito · 22/05/2026 20:49

I would not be going, and neither would the children. Your DH is a disgrace. If he can’t manage the most basic part of being a parent - protecting them from harm - then he isn’t fit to have charge of them or make decisions for them. Get rid of their passports and refuse to go.

The less said about the “grandfather”, the better. 🤮

Octavia64 · 22/05/2026 20:49

Can tell you from personal experience the conversation is unlikely to go well with your FIL.

can you refuse to go? I’d certainly have a stand up row with my dh and be very clear that if I went I’d be telling FIL exactly what I thought of him and shy he couldn’t look after our kid,

you may find dh does not want that and backs down

BreadInCaptivity · 22/05/2026 20:46

I’d tell (not ask) PIL and DH what was the arrangement.

I’d speak with daycare to ensure they are clear the child should not be picked up by anyone other than you or DH.

I tell DH that he if leaves DC with his parents I’d be leaving him permanently.

Ask your DH why he is scared of his father…..

I’m pretty sure the answer is obvious. If he doesn’t want protect his own child from that he’s despicable himself.

Tigerbalmshark · 22/05/2026 20:45

Honestly I would probably just not go - sounds absolutely miserable for you anyway, and your children are going to be in nursery all month anyway so what is the point?

And if your FIL doesn’t like it, tough honestly. What is your DH going to do, divorce you?

RudolphTheReindeer · 22/05/2026 20:42

I just wouldn't go over there unless its for a holiday and you have eyes on dc the whole time.

MeetMeOnTheCorner · 22/05/2026 20:42

You stay at home with dc. Let dh go.

Esmeraldathe3rd · 22/05/2026 20:40

ClaredeBear · 22/05/2026 20:35

This would be enough for me to rethink my relationship altogether. Even if he doesn’t hit your child, you do t know what else he might resort to and unfortunately, everyone, including your husband, permits this. You have to protect your child.

Problem with this is she then can't stop him letting his parents babysit her kids during his contact time.
I could never have sex with such a wet blanket though.

PoppinjayPolly · 22/05/2026 20:39

Sorry they would never see my dc who at 1 could not tell me what is happening.
so he assaults your dc and injures them, what do you tell police, ss, hospital.. “yeah we know he’s a child abusing bastard but…..”
why doesn’t your dh work?

Esmeraldathe3rd · 22/05/2026 20:39

Are you going to visit them? I'd refuse to go if DH couldn't assure me he'd protect our children.

In laws hit their kids and grandkids. They say their kids used to ask them to discipline their kids for them. I said I don't need anyone to discipline my kids for me, I'm their mother.

They are not allowed unsupervised around my children, ever. DH knows this and supports me in this. He is scared of his parents. They are majorly abusive to him. But I don't take any shit and he knows that respecting me and protecting our children is more important than his parents tantrums so he has the hard conversations.

I would tell them they're not to hit your children. I would also change my working hours to do he collections. And if anyone asks or complains I'd say "i can't trust you not to hit my kids and I can't trust my husband to protect my kids so I have to do the school runs aswell as work" let them all be embarrassed, they should be.

Why's your kid in daycare when your husband doesn't work?

Kittycat2mom · 22/05/2026 20:38

Honestly eiither you change your work hours & do the pick ups or you & kids just don't go
You have a DH problem.

ClaredeBear · 22/05/2026 20:35

This would be enough for me to rethink my relationship altogether. Even if he doesn’t hit your child, you do t know what else he might resort to and unfortunately, everyone, including your husband, permits this. You have to protect your child.

Humblepieman · 22/05/2026 20:33

This is mainly about your FIL’s need for power and control, there is absolutely no value to hitting children. Is your DH playing the same game now with you? His need for control and/or power is more important than your children’s well-being.

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 22/05/2026 20:28

Absolutely not! I found out that PIL used physical abuse to discipline DH and his siblings. I made it very clear before DC1 was born that that would never ever be acceptable and if they laid a finger on our children, I would cut their contact with them. He agreed!

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