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AIBU to just let my DD crack on?

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ASundayWellSpent · 22/05/2026 11:01

I'm struggling with DD11 (nearly 12) so much at the moment and today I just want to give up. She has been lovingly and caringly brought up her whole life, stable childhood with both parents supportive, younger sister who is a breeze and idolises her sister, close grandparents, great school with small class sizes. Ironically I work with children including teens and am closely linked to wellbeing, but I guess its different when it is your own and in the home environment. She has gone through a few different phases of being more difficult/ needing more support, strategies etc, notably at 2, 8 and now again at 11. She was screened as part of a research study when she was 10 for any underlying needs / emotional wellbeing etc and it showed slightly high indicators for anxiety but nothing more. She visited a psychologist for a few sessions last summer (and will be going again starting next week) and they discussed her worries and preocupations with friendship groups but the feedback was generally very positive and no further sessions were recommended at that time. I still have my suspisions that she might be neurodiverse and is masking/ high-functioning due to the high levels of support from home and school.

For the past year since she started Secondary we just seem to be in a constant cycle of her pushing boundaries, making poor choices and putting her attention/ focus / energy into superficial things and not engaging with what is important. She is becoming increasingly defiant and argumentative (feels like every 5 minutes), mainly with me but also with father, sister and even on occasion grandparents. I have explained til I am blue in the face that I would like nothing better than to give her more freedom and let her make her own choices but everytime she is given the opportunity poor choices are made and I have to go back to scaffolding and support which I believe she resents.

After a particularly difficult week I am at my wits end. I have just spent half an hour journalling writing "do what you want, just leave me alone" again and again as it is the only way I can see out right now through my stress fog.

Would it be so terrible for me to make good on the list that I have just written and let natural consequences have their effect, in an attempt to protect my mental health and have at least a break in the constant arguing?

List: Wear what you want, use your computer when you want, wash when you want, leave your stuff where you want, tidy your room when you want, empty your bathrooom bin when you want, study when you want, manage your school stuff however you want, go to sports when you want, give up piano when you want, opt out of family outings when you want, eat whatever/ whenever you want, manage your hygiene how you want, just please give me a break and make the arguing stop before I have a break down?

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KojaksLollipop · 22/05/2026 11:33

Try a compromise first, maybe say the things that affect her only, her hygiene, her room etc, do those when she wants, but the things she should do as part of the family, such as emptying the bin, are non-negotiable

BertieBotts · 22/05/2026 11:32

No, you know at 11 just letting her do whatever she wants knowing that it will implode on her is a terrible idea. This is not likely to give her a wake up call, it will just make everything more overwhelming for her and then make it harder to get out of the cycle once that has happened. It is unlikely that she will ask for help. She will just

OTOH I understand the current situation can't continue. You need some kind of shift. Certainly some of the things in your list can be let go (wear what you want?) or some of the things you could take over, short term (emptying bins?) in the spirit of lowering demand/reducing conflict.

Something I've found really helpful in parenting is the idea of division of responsibility. We cannot control the actions of another person, and even though conventional parenting wisdom seems to suggest that we ought to be able to control our children, it's true even for children. All we can realistically control is the environment, what they have access to, and then our response to their behaviour.

DoR usually applies to eating - with the focus being that we can provide regular, healthy/balanced meals (control environment) but children will choose how much and whether they want to eat, and most of the time this works because humans have an instinctive drive to eat so even if they have a few mealtimes where they don't eat very much, for the vast majority of children they will balance out and not starve themselves.

I think you can apply this to various things, and it definitely helps take the pressure off you.

However it can fall down a bit when ND is involved because to go back to the feeding example, children may have severe sensory issues around food. In this case it would be a cue to seek professional support. When that's happening around multiple issues, then it's trickier especially in the UK where waiting lists can be so long that by the time you ever get to see anybody the problems have all exacerbated each other and become tangled up. Because you have multiple issues happening and generally high levels of conflict, I would probably say it's worth pushing to see whether any referrals can be made in this direction.

Have you come across the Ross Greene collaborative problem solving approach before? It's in The Explosive Child which is the most famous/well known of his books so you might have read this, but there is another book called Raising Human Beings which also explains the same approach without the focus on explosive behaviour. It's essentially a format where you list all the things you're currently fighting about, as you've done, and then triage and drop the demand on basically all of them temporarily, and then for the highest priority most urgent unsolved problem, you explore with DD at a completely unrelated, calmer moment, what's getting in the way of that unsolved problem, which is usually different to what you originally assumed.

This is only a very brief summary but I don't have time to explain more, I can probably come back tomorrow. I don't think it will solve everything, but it might be worth looking at as an approach.

You might also want to report the thread and ask it to be moved to the SN board so you don't get lots of replies insisting you need to make the house into a military discipline camp.

Survivingnotthriving24 · 22/05/2026 11:32

Sorry you're having a difficult time with her OP.

I say this gently, but this does sound like typical preteen/teen behaviour that's developmentally normal. Your list sounds pretty extensive there, you need to remain on top of the important ones and hand her control of the rest. So for me I'd remain firm on school work, Internet access/screens and personal hygiene and let her decide on the rest with the condition she is respectful of others and your home.

Could you access some therapy for yourself? It sounds like you have perfectionist tendencies you're forcing on to your daughter.

Monvelo · 22/05/2026 11:32

The thing is if you do let go of all the things on your list, it won't necessarily make the arguing stop! But I wonder if you could let some go and not others. It's a difficult age I think, my DD is 11 and had loads of tears this morning about what to wear to school 🤷🏻‍♀️ I think sometimes they lean more grown up at this age and the next day they're still a little kid.

Malasana · 22/05/2026 11:31

Mingou · 22/05/2026 11:29

Normal teenage behaviour is not morning an 11 year old

Sorry I don’t understand your post.

Peonies12 · 22/05/2026 11:31

It's not clear what the specific issues / examples are? What "poor choices" does she make. You really do have to pick your battles, for example, basic hygiene, studying, keeping room in a hygienic state. if she wants to stop piano, fine why would you argue with that?
Sending her to psychologist over friendship group worries seems massively OTT. i think you might need to look at your own anxiety and expectations.

Mingou · 22/05/2026 11:29

Malasana · 22/05/2026 11:16

This sounds like very normal teenage girl behaviour to me and very typical. At this age they’re contending with hormones that do affect how they feel and react as well as their age and mixing with other kids the same age at school meaning that they want to test boundaries.

It’s a difficult age but you don’t describe anything that would raise red flags for me if this were my own daughter.

I think pick your battles wisely and you may find life a bit more peaceful.

Normal teenage behaviour is not morning an 11 year old

CatLady93 · 22/05/2026 11:28

This sounds incredibly hard OP. A stage of parenting I haven’t yet reached so I can’t talk from that side of the experience, but if I were to have any thoughts it would be that to follow through with what you have written in your journal would not give your daughter much emotional containment. Showing her that there are safe boundaries and consequences and behaviours that aren’t acceptable might give her a sense that somebody is in charge and has responsibility for her which ultimately will make her feel safe and held and lead to better wellbeing in the future. Those are my thoughts based on my own experience as a teen but of course I don’t know the details of your setup so do take it with a pinch of salt! X

TheRealWhacker · 22/05/2026 11:28

What specifically is she doing or not doing that’s causing the issues?

I do think some adults have insanely high expectations of behaviour for children and teenagers and forget they are children not tiny adults.

HedgehogsOnTheWall · 22/05/2026 11:27

Agree she sounds pretty typical. Maybe you should see a psychologist yourself if you're finding it hard to cope?

ToKittyornottoKitty · 22/05/2026 11:24

She sounds like a totally normal pre teen girl undergoing hormonal changes. Maybe your work is making you over analyse her

Tulipsriver · 22/05/2026 11:21

I don't think you can follow your list to the letter (unlimited access to screens, school, and basic hygiene are non negotiables and there do need to be some restrictions around food unless she can be trusted to eat a broadly balanced diet herself). But I'd look at areas you can give her more control over to limit friction.

Would it be the end of the world if she gave up piano? Or sat out of some family outings? Or if her room was largely clean but untidy. Try picking your battles and see if it makes life any easier for you all, at least in the short term Flowers

Parcelpass · 22/05/2026 11:20

Whats the hygiene thing? I have an 11 year old. Its a tricky age its not every day. I do stress to him that he must shower on an evening as he is getting older and people can be cruel and he doesnt want to smell.

Is the piano an extra lesson?

EatenTooMuchChocolateAgain · 22/05/2026 11:20

if you have suspicions of ND have you considered she might have PDA profile? If so you need to change your approach with her and see how she responds.

Malasana · 22/05/2026 11:16

This sounds like very normal teenage girl behaviour to me and very typical. At this age they’re contending with hormones that do affect how they feel and react as well as their age and mixing with other kids the same age at school meaning that they want to test boundaries.

It’s a difficult age but you don’t describe anything that would raise red flags for me if this were my own daughter.

I think pick your battles wisely and you may find life a bit more peaceful.

Somethingbland · 22/05/2026 11:11

If she is seeing a psychologist next week OP do you get the opportunity to discuss what is going on with the psychologist.? Will it be an opportunity for you to get any help and guidance as to how to handle your DD's behaviour?