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To think the world should have a 100% tax rate

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notanothernamechange24 · 21/05/2026 22:27

On anyone with assets or income over 1 billion pounds. Nobody needs to hoard money / wealth to that degree. There is no justification for it.
The world would be a far better place without billionaires let alone trillionaires.

I know it will never happen. But it should. AIBU?

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notanothernamechange24 · 22/05/2026 14:45

Hassell · 22/05/2026 14:06

You don’t think your situation is relevant to your perspective?

interesting

but it tells us that you are coming at this from a low income and precarious finances

Not remotely relevant no.

And your assumptions are completely incorrect btw!

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MistressoftheDarkSide · 22/05/2026 14:31

Hassell · 22/05/2026 14:06

You don’t think your situation is relevant to your perspective?

interesting

but it tells us that you are coming at this from a low income and precarious finances

And so what ?

Anyone who sees the rampant inequality and lunacy of the current world economy is entitled to speak about it. Framing it as "envious poors" is the biggest part of the problem.

labamba007 · 22/05/2026 14:16

Whatifitallgoesright · 21/05/2026 23:41

Already there are people who are not taking promotions because it would put them into a tax bracket which wouldn't benefit them at all so because they will stay longer in their postions other people trying to progress in their careers find themselves hitting against a brick wall. As trickle-down goes it hasn't got the best odds.

It’s why so many doctors and dentists work part time. No point over a certain amount because then you actually get paid less.

TheKeatingFive · 22/05/2026 14:13

Nogreenskittles · 21/05/2026 23:35

I always think this is a bit of a nonsense argument. Do you seriously think every entrepreneur is just going to give up in case they become billionaires?

Lots of people give their all to a business for reasons other than money. some noble reasons - others not.

A lot of it is mindset. A lot of these mega rich tycoons are actually quite emotionally stunted and would actively benefit from not chasing money and focusing elsewhere.

i think we should adopt the ancient Greek attitude to taxes- people actively sought to pay more tax because it brought kudos and status. We need people thinking like this rather than trying to hoard it

They aren't going to give up, they'll just adjust where the money goes to ensure they don't go over a billion. Whether that's to shareholders, partners, in salary, other bonuses.

Hassell · 22/05/2026 14:06

notanothernamechange24 · 22/05/2026 14:01

My situation isn’t relevant! My disgust that we have over 300 million people starving in 2026 is!

You don’t think your situation is relevant to your perspective?

interesting

but it tells us that you are coming at this from a low income and precarious finances

notanothernamechange24 · 22/05/2026 14:01

Hassell · 22/05/2026 13:19

Are you coming at this issue from the perspective someone on a low income with no savings @notanothernamechange24 ? Struggling?

My situation isn’t relevant! My disgust that we have over 300 million people starving in 2026 is!

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Hassell · 22/05/2026 13:19

Are you coming at this issue from the perspective someone on a low income with no savings @notanothernamechange24 ? Struggling?

notanothernamechange24 · 22/05/2026 13:17

Monty36 · 22/05/2026 12:59

Nil motivation to do anything. None.
This is why the Stones left to go to France. They were taxed at 90%. No point in doing anything in the UK.
There comes a point when taxing someone so much is a massive negative. Tax needs to be sensible.

What is sensible about someone having over 1 billion in assets whilst 300 million people are starving. On their own each of the top 12 richest people could feed every single starving person without even noticing the cost. What is sensible about that?

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Corianda · 22/05/2026 13:03

I’m sure China,Russia,Dubai,Dodgy S American countries will all comply

Monty36 · 22/05/2026 12:59

Nil motivation to do anything. None.
This is why the Stones left to go to France. They were taxed at 90%. No point in doing anything in the UK.
There comes a point when taxing someone so much is a massive negative. Tax needs to be sensible.

doopwoop · 22/05/2026 12:42

Dunnocantthinkofone · 21/05/2026 22:30

Well, what incentive would they have to build companies that employ hundreds or thousands of people in well paid positions
Yanbu to think no one needs billions but deprivation of assets is a daft idea in a capitalist society

Perhaps the first billion would be enough of an incentive? Nobody needs anything close to a billion pounds. Bloody ridiculous.

ForWittyTealOP · 22/05/2026 12:41

chirrupybird · 22/05/2026 12:06

They tried communism, it didn't work. There are still the rich and the poor mainly the politicians are the rich...

Could you explain how what was described fits in with the communist model?

Meadowfinch · 22/05/2026 12:32

notanothernamechange24 · 21/05/2026 22:35

Business can be owned by multiple people. It would restrict an individual owning more than 1 billion worth of shares in said company. It would encourage greater cooperatives. Arguably it would be in the interest of most businesses of that sort of size, to be owned and managed by more than one person

So company owners would launch on the stock market earlier at £750 million. Or split the shareholding between family members.

It wouldn't make any difference.

Nogreenskittles · 22/05/2026 12:30

PinkPonyAnonymous · 22/05/2026 08:06

Get the tech bros wearing lil’ shiny badges “I paid £1,000,000 in tax”

Make it a collectables situation and they would lose their minds!

Edited

Love that idea!

or we should sell the opportunity to be king or queen of uk for a week. Occasions like Trooping the colour and state opening of parliament would cost £££s.

billionaires would be fighting each other to hand over a fortune

chirrupybird · 22/05/2026 12:06

notanothernamechange24 · 21/05/2026 22:35

Business can be owned by multiple people. It would restrict an individual owning more than 1 billion worth of shares in said company. It would encourage greater cooperatives. Arguably it would be in the interest of most businesses of that sort of size, to be owned and managed by more than one person

They tried communism, it didn't work. There are still the rich and the poor mainly the politicians are the rich...

LettuceAndCarrots · 22/05/2026 12:03

rwalker · 22/05/2026 08:06

Ask yourself if you’d work for nothing
we need to look at the rules that stop people working
like the ridiculous low amount of your only allowed to earn before careers allowance stops
and the magical 16 hours to get benefits
booths these need a taper rather than a cliff edge
people going over 100k they lose childcare so it’s not worth it they work less
all of the above force people to work less thus pay less tax

we need to look at the bottom of the pile not just the top

I would if it was a job I enjoyed. And if I was a billionaire I definitely wouldn't be wasting my time working in a job I didn't enjoy!

On the other hand, if I hated my job then very little would incentivise me to keep doing if I didn't have to.

ForWittyTealOP · 22/05/2026 10:48

BMW58 · 22/05/2026 10:01

Was all that spending funded by the Revenue taken in high Taxation or by borrowing?

Borrowing is not a dirty word. Government debt isn't something to be avoided at all costs. And sometimes policy is about more than what's strictly fair/effective. It's about setting up a framework for a particular type of socio-economic structure.

Imlyingandthatsthetruth · 22/05/2026 10:02

Wrong target. I don't give a toss about the CEOs earning Megabucks, they are a minority. I do care about the overinflated salaries of middle and upper management who basically contribute fuck all. They add up to far more than the person at the top.

BMW58 · 22/05/2026 10:01

Alexandra2001 · 22/05/2026 09:34

Yet when we in the UK taxed certain streams of income at 90% plus, we were better off in many ways.
We built council housing, had an excellent armed forces, an NHS that was world leading, a huge manufacturing base (ICI, Plessey GEC, Racal world leading comms and chemical industries, among many others) built Concorde (with the French of course) weekly bin collections, built a m/way network, roads you could drive on without smashing up your car...

Sure its very hard to make direct comparisons but it cannot be argued that huge numbers of millionaires/billionaires has benefited wider society.

& whats with the huge salaries we give CEO's of a Schools Academy, a council, an NHS trust.... Snouts in trough, springs to mind.

What has happened to all the money we have in the UK ?? all that furlough? Covid & energy support? its all gone to corporations, banks, energy suppliers.

Was all that spending funded by the Revenue taken in high Taxation or by borrowing?

ForWittyTealOP · 22/05/2026 09:44

MifsBr0wn · 22/05/2026 09:41

"For those wondering, I will pay over $11bn in taxes this year," : Elon Musk.

That was in 2021 in a specific and exceptional set of circumstances. Tell us how much he paid last year? *

  • Clue: you can't, nobody can.
ForWittyTealOP · 22/05/2026 09:41

Alexandra2001 · 22/05/2026 09:34

Yet when we in the UK taxed certain streams of income at 90% plus, we were better off in many ways.
We built council housing, had an excellent armed forces, an NHS that was world leading, a huge manufacturing base (ICI, Plessey GEC, Racal world leading comms and chemical industries, among many others) built Concorde (with the French of course) weekly bin collections, built a m/way network, roads you could drive on without smashing up your car...

Sure its very hard to make direct comparisons but it cannot be argued that huge numbers of millionaires/billionaires has benefited wider society.

& whats with the huge salaries we give CEO's of a Schools Academy, a council, an NHS trust.... Snouts in trough, springs to mind.

What has happened to all the money we have in the UK ?? all that furlough? Covid & energy support? its all gone to corporations, banks, energy suppliers.

That's an excellent point and I think it's often overlooked in the rush to portray the extremely wealthy as beneficial to society. Post war, up until the election of the Thatcherite govt, our society was perhaps the most equal it's ever been. That didn't happen by chance! The concentration of wealth is only ever going to benefit the few, and there's a ceiling to how much you can benefit from your wealth and assets. Conversely, the level of deprivation and suffering caused by inequality is limitless. So when people pluck the income tax levels of the 70s out of the air thinking it's a complete mic drop, they need to look at context. They also need to bear in mind that income tax dropped slowly during the Thatcher years, it didn't sink like a stone the moment that govt was elected. So what happened in the UK on terms of markets like public services, housing, transport, utilities and so on over that time? What happened to levels of inequality?

MifsBr0wn · 22/05/2026 09:41

Dunnocantthinkofone · 21/05/2026 23:11

I mean most billionaires don’t pay tax anyway at anywhere near the rate of ordinary people. It’s all non dom and legal loopholes

"For those wondering, I will pay over $11bn in taxes this year," : Elon Musk.

Alexandra2001 · 22/05/2026 09:34

tttigress · 21/05/2026 23:32

Have you heard of this thing called the Laffer curve?

If you tax at 0% you will get zero tax, if you tax at 100% you will also get zero because why would anyone work/take risk in order to get nothing in return?

Yet when we in the UK taxed certain streams of income at 90% plus, we were better off in many ways.
We built council housing, had an excellent armed forces, an NHS that was world leading, a huge manufacturing base (ICI, Plessey GEC, Racal world leading comms and chemical industries, among many others) built Concorde (with the French of course) weekly bin collections, built a m/way network, roads you could drive on without smashing up your car...

Sure its very hard to make direct comparisons but it cannot be argued that huge numbers of millionaires/billionaires has benefited wider society.

& whats with the huge salaries we give CEO's of a Schools Academy, a council, an NHS trust.... Snouts in trough, springs to mind.

What has happened to all the money we have in the UK ?? all that furlough? Covid & energy support? its all gone to corporations, banks, energy suppliers.

Goldenbear · 22/05/2026 09:28

Wickedlittledancer · 22/05/2026 08:15

So you think billionaires have no moral compasses and as such, we should behave the same and take all their money. Right o.

Where did I state that Billionaires have no moral compass, good hyperbolic spin there. If a Billionaire has a moral compass surely they would question whether they need all that money and even power over society. Personally, if I was a billionaire I wouldn't wantbto ensure democratic principles are maintained and you can't do that with only a few holding all the cards. Do you get it?

ForWittyTealOP · 22/05/2026 09:27

crackofdoom · 22/05/2026 09:18

I'm waiting in for an engineer to investigate a dramatic shift in my house's climate right now, so I'm going down rabbit holes.

Turns out climate was a contributory factor to the fall of the Roman Empire- there was something called the Late Antiquity Little Ice Age due to a period of intense volcanic activity in the 6th century AD, leading to widespread food shortages.

Oh, and also pandemics, caused by then novel viruses. And the wealth inequality we were talking about.

Which rings an uncomfortable amount of bells, doesn't it 😬

Yes it does! Actually it's quite uncanny, the parallels that can be drawn. Still, we never learn.