To think telling a child to "cover up" because of male teachers is ewwww?

I'm done now. There was context in the conversation being had.

People taking things out of context to berate someone is not a debate. It's just sad.

My comment on your post was because your post was replying to someone who was posting about sexualisation of girls. Which is why I commented. Girls are children. And my brain is likely the same size as yours.
Heres the comment you replied to.
I'm frustrated by feminists tying themselves in knots to claim that a young girl dressed in highly sexualised and objectifying clothing is just 'expressing herself' and 'exploring', when in fact it's quite clear that she's learning her place in society; as a sexual object, there to be physically desired, instead of a person to be valued for her mind and her personality

That’s because of the overlaying structural context – we don’t live in a world were boys appearance is both their value and a stick to beat them with. Equity is not the same as equality.

that’s why it’s almost never The mic drop you think it is to say if the tables were turned …

It's just very weird and unrelated, as this thread isn't about women, it's about teenage girls.

So many people read "women" as children, it's very worrying.

I was talking about women and the social conditioning they receive to be sexual, and the fact that they can if they want to be, it's a valid choice. As evidenced by the use of the word women.

But you infer whatever your little brain wants.

I agree with you, ewwww. Very inappropriate reason to give.

Not as ‘telling’ as you wanting children to ‘feel sexual’.

Maybe the 'self-respect' question is a personal one for them; but it's a simple case of respect for others not to expose your private body parts in public and force them to deal with it. This is a very basic part of a widely-understood way to behave in society.

It's been said many times on this thread, but absolutely nobody would be calling it man-hating if a man or teenage boy went around in public in an equivalent state of displaying his body and people called him out on it. In fact, he would be called the pervert... so make of that what you will.

'self respect', in relation to this, absolutely reveals your misogyny.

“I suspect because she is slightly larger chested….”

how about asking the school ?

The issue here is 2 things
1 - no dress code re appropriateness for own clothes day. Children need to be taught about professional and appropriate attire or they will end up going in to work with inappropriate clothing. So school sets the standards and should enforce it.
2 - the wording was slightly wrong - 'cover up' should apply to all pupils showing inappropriate amounts of skin due to it being a classroom learning environment not a nightclub or swimming pool. ' Due to male teachers' is not the reason why they should cover up. They should cover up as its not appropriate full stop, for all teachers not just male.

Yep I agree

Or unless you think it's appropriate for school girls to rock up to school displaying their breasts with skirts hardly covering their buttocks. Anyone who would do the same if still at school & are of the opinion girls should feel free to wear what they want to school on non uniform day must have no sense of self respect.

Just because its common , doesn't mean it's okay, everyone needs to be respectful to one another, to me it's really cheap looking and I don't know why girls have to hoist up their skirts so high ?

Anyone saying "there are male teachers around" needs to have training!

Focus should be on looking appropriate for a professional environment even on dress down days. When teachers do PJ days we often have to buy appropriate loose fitting ones!

I don't like seeing the underwear of any of my students irrespective of gender. I also don't want to see butt cracks or excessive cleavage. It's what you'd expect from both pupils and staff.

I once had some students tease me that my dress was too short as it wasn't an inch above the knee. Everyone needs to just keep their privates private. It's not about being sexually exciting, it's just grim.

Adults are in the workplace not children.

Yes there are clothes that are inappropriate for school. You should be teaching your child about boundaries and responsibility not letting her think that anything goes just because of what she wants. The world does not revolve around her and if you don’t teach her how to cope in the real world who else is going to do it.

Actually vest tops are the choice of people not used to heat. In hot countries they cover up in light layers which stops sun burning and overheating the skin.

I'm not saying I see anything wrong with strappy tops or bare shoulders but some strappy tops are cut super low at the front, tight round the torso and short at the waist and made from very thin stretch fabric so that nothing whatsoever is left to the imagination. When you put all that together it just looks desperate to be displaying which school is not the place for.

Id personally argue that if it would be suitable for an office/workplace then its appropriate for school. If it wouldn't be deemed appropriate for work then its not appropriate for school

• I'd feel like this too. Super revealing clothes are not empowering but embarrassing*

Agree. Makes you wonder how they've been dragged up,

OK. This was not an issue in the 80s or 90s.
It was about then that people started losing respect for schoolteachers.

I agree with what you are saying. I work in schools. I’m not education and have nothing to do with the pupils but in our secondary schools I can feel uncomfortable when girls roll their skirts so short you are seeing their pants or the top of their tights that are not meant to be seen.

I am conflicted though as we absolutely should be able to wear what we like so long as we are covered.

I work in a secondary and we have a staff no cleavage,no bare legged,no non sleeve dress code so id expect a non uniform day for pupils to be similar imo.

I agree on appropriate school wear. We were told this at school. My brother was pulled for advertising a certain drink on his gym T-shirt.
They’re kids let them wear a short sleeve T-shirt. Sometimes our eyes are drawn to big boobs unintentionally.
Wouldn’t allow my daughter to wear inappropriate clothing to school. Reduce risks where possible.

This is vimmon sense. There's really no need to be showing loads of flesh.