To think telling a child to "cover up" because of male teachers is ewwww?

The reason schools often insist on shoulders covered is because of school bag straps rubbing on skin. If a bag strap is touching skin not clothing, there’s a good chance it’ll rub and be sore. That’s a dull and practical rule.

Bit like when they insist on fully enclosed shoes even on own clothes days, this isn’t just a pointless rule, kids have ended up with cuts on their feet wearing sandals to school.

If you don't know what 'appropriate' is and then can't apply it to 'appropriate' for work/school/family day out/date night, then you need help in the nicest possible way of this word.

OK...
And if it is a day where the temperature has reached 23 degrees (after 14 degrees a couple of days ago), and that the day has been designated a non-uniform day where any rules were not clarified, then what is normal? Or even comfortable?

OP you should make a complaint. Although I'm not sure it will be received or dealt with by anyone with the brains to truly understand what the problem is.

Telling children to cover up because there are male teachers around is beyond belief. What is the implication there? I just don't have the words to really disect this tonight. We live in misogyny. It is everywhere and is always propped up and supported by women.

Who would want to be a teacher these days.

Nothing to do with pupils. Its the parents incapable if supporting basic rules.

Your child can wear what they want when you are in charge of them. School. Makes their rules.

Its fine to have a chat about appropiate wear for school.
Inappropriate the reason of male teachers.
My general rule with my teens is that if its not suitable to wear to work then not suitable for school.
If her boobs were busting out then its not appropriate for school

This comment is so bizarre, I am sorry - it is up there with 'what is normal?' Usually asked by somebody not normal in response to 'this is not normal' - they usually exclaim 'what is normal, define normal'.

If you don't know what 'appropriate' is and then can't apply it to 'appropriate' for work/school/family day out/date night, then you need help in the nicest possible way of this word.

That comment is entirely inappropriate. But so, really, is revealing clothes worn in a working school environment. (I would say the same about tight or short shorts on a man).

Perhaps the school needs to rethink their own-clothes days? Either don't have them, or accept that the kids are going to push the boundaries for that one day and turn a blind eye to it.

What do you think is inappropriate about this top, and why?

Nope. Just don't stare at adolescents' tits, it's actually really simple.

Am I not? What stand am I taking?

I just Googled the term wifebeater and looked at the images because I had never heard of the term before. What I saw looked remarkably like a "vest" to me. Is this what the OPs DD was wearing? Have you heard of a string vest? Is this appropriate for school?

Any male member of staff wearing a vest type top in my office would be told put a shirt over it.

Pre Covid when we had dress down Fridays it was actually some of the younger men who were told this type of top or cap sleeved, tight fitting, club type gear wasn't appropriate.

Obviously.

Not sure what that has to do with false accusations or staff feeling uncomfortable seeing bums/boobs.

Last non uniform day we had lots of girls wear similar to this. I don't think it's OK for school.

Men with any ounce of respect know where to keep their eyes in the presence of females.

You’re the one who decided your DD’s cup size was the issue, that’s not what was said to her!

The male teacher comment is gross.

I do think certain clothing is more suitable to certain environments than others. As a teacher we don’t have a formal dress code but I would be conscious of necklines and dress lengths for work clothing.

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One false accusation is all that's needed for some men to quit. They've been accused of one of the worst crimes going, because they turned and glanced at someone who chose to have their boobs out. Some girls know it is a way to "get" at male staff too.

Se uncomfortable men or women to be perfectly honest. Not because there's a sexual reaction, I just don't want to see boobs or bums at work.

The comment re male staff was misguided.

100%

And fashions come and go. 18th and 19th century men used to wear tight breeches that showed off their crown jewels and women low-cut, cleavage-heaving dresses (in some decades). Even the prudish Victorians.

I thought these arguments ended in the 60s with mini skirts.

Ps. I bet it was a female teacher who made the comment to the OPs daughter.

Depends on the vest if worn purposefully with boobs hanging out ! Personally I never felt the need to roll my skirt up or wear plunging tops at school (I was big busted) probably as I did not want attention !

The Teachers have the problem.then with attitude,My mum/Dad says whilst trying to keep some semblance of order so they can teach.

Jesus some of the comments on here. It's a vest top, not a bralet. Not a corset. A vest top.

I have massive boobs (double G 😭) and had big boobs growing up. Unfortunately when your boobs are that large, everything looks very top heavy and looks more revealing than it should. A vest top isn't revealing, so I don't get some of the comments. Also having the tops of your arms out isn't revealing. We're not Victorian. I thought vest tops usually cover everything? If you're larger chested, you may naturally have some slight clevage, but it's literally part of your body. We should be allowed to exist in our bodies without feeling bad or worrying about men's feelings. I'm a lesbian, and I somehow survive without feeling uncomfortable or acting pervy no matter what someone is wearing.

If a man can't cope seeing a woman in a vest top, they have no business stepping foot outside.

I think a lot of people are missing the point that these are not professionals in an office, they're teenagers and teenagers like to push boundaries!

I frequently roll my eyes on own clothes day- boobs (bralette style tops worn with zip up hoodies over) bums (Nike pro shorts) and bellies (crop tops). Would I ever comment? No! Some of the parents will know how their children are dressed, some of them will not.

The majority of my colleagues - male or female- are the same. We're at work because we enjoy teaching teenagers (well most of us). I have heard this insidious attitude of cover up for the males though and I hate it - it does a major disservice to the boys and the male teachers and it reinforces a bloody patriarchal mindset of men controlling women.

In an ideal world women would wear what they want without it being critiqued. It would also be ideal if it was situation appropriate 🤣 but teenagers are navigating new systems and trying to find their places and I don't think two days a year for own clothes day is a problem.

Incidentally, I have no problem saying to girls to be careful if they're bending over to open a window and something is on display, or to pull their skirt down because it's caught in their blazer- they typically respond well to this because they know it's not coming from a place of judgement.

A quick Google shows that many US high schools don't allow revealing tops (including vest tops)