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To think telling a child to "cover up" because of male teachers is ewwww?

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FreeeeeeeeFreeFalling · 21/05/2026 19:59

DD and her mates were wearing fairly standard vest tops at school for an own clothes day. All dressed exactly the same. DD singled out and told to cover up (I suspect because she is slightly larger chested than the others), which she found humiliating. She was told "there are male teachers around" as the reason!
They are 16.
I kind of think if male teachers can't keep their eyes to themselves, they shouldn't be teachers, right?!

AIBU to think this is a bit off?

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babyproblems · 22/05/2026 08:35

Appropriate clothing means not skin tight, not bum showing, not hot pants, not underwear as clothes.

So jeans and a tshirt, or trousers / shorts , top. It’s not appropriate to wear skin tight clothing to school or work imo. Doesn’t matter who you are or what age, it’s poor taste / judgement.

Namesuggestion101 · 22/05/2026 08:35

Could we organise an event where all the male teachers went to school with their bum cheeks hanging out of their hotpants? Then when any female that looked, glanced, noticed, giggled, commented were told they were sexual predators and perverts.

Let's see how that would go down with pupils and their parents.

SuziQuinto · 22/05/2026 08:35

I'm amazed that a school in 2026 would openly make that statement about male staff.
That's a whole assumption about the sex of teachers which modern SLTs have to avoid.

Itsnotfunbeingobtuse · 22/05/2026 08:34

FreeeeeeeeFreeFalling · 22/05/2026 08:31

Do girls and women have to "accept" being cat-called and groped based on their outfits, as well as "humiliated"? Sexualluy assaulted, perhaps? Is that just the natural order of things?

Called-out by her teacher, to teach her how to dress appropriately in certain settings.

It’s a shame that this type of teaching has to fall to her school to do. It should come from home. This would have saved her being humiliated.

It’s on you OP.

CaesarAugusta · 22/05/2026 08:34

Plsudb · 21/05/2026 20:18

Rachel Reeves made an announcement in a petrol station yesterday about not increasing fuel duty. She could perfectly well have made the announcement in a vest top like your dd was wearing. It wouldn’t have impacted her ability to do the announcement. She wore a suit. Because she knew she wasn’t on the beach, unlike you and your dd who seem to think beach dress is ok for school.

FFS. The look required for a Chancellor of the Exchequer making a public announcement on a serious subject with major effects on the national economy is hardly comparable to the look required for an own-clothes day in school. I've heard some absurd comparisons in my time, this may take some sort of prize.

Itsnotfunbeingobtuse · 22/05/2026 08:31

Goditsmemargaret · 22/05/2026 08:26

I agree with everything you've said OP.

Every single thing.

I don't think you will get anywhere with your complaint (that you are aware of) but I still think you should file it so your daughter sees you supporting her. She did nothing wrong, she was dressed like her friends.

She was singled out and humiliated because of her large chest.
She was told she was potentially responsible for distracting adult men.

It is disgusting. I'd be furious.

And yes why do we STILL have stupid dress codes? They annoy me so much. I'm not sending my DD to a school with a uniform because I don't see what it is 'preparing' her for - corporate attire is surely on its way out?

Not distracting. Embarrassing them!

FreeeeeeeeFreeFalling · 22/05/2026 08:31

Itsnotfunbeingobtuse · 22/05/2026 08:27

Well then she has to be accept being called out by others then, and humiliated, if you’re not going to do it.

Do girls and women have to "accept" being cat-called and groped based on their outfits, as well as "humiliated"? Sexualluy assaulted, perhaps? Is that just the natural order of things?

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SuziQuinto · 22/05/2026 08:29

StillTryingToKeepGoing · 22/05/2026 08:26

I work in a school and have had to ask a student to cover up when in a meeting with me. 6th former in very revealing bra top. I told her the outfit looked amazing and suited them, but it made me uncomfortable and not really work appropriate and to please chuck her cardigan back on. All done with smiles and no embarrassment.

But a man couldn’t give them the compliment first without weird accusations. And I don’t get accused of anything because I’m married with children. (And I’m in a role where students know I’m there to help them). I feel a sense of having to look out for my male colleagues because if they were to be accused of looking at a female student, it could very quickly escalate. I think the teacher is looking out for her colleagues. If she says something, they don’t have to.

I think it’s about mutual respect between staff and students.

You actually told a student that a revealing outfit "looked amazing and suited her"? You used those words?
What kind of school do you work in, what safeguarding have you actually done?
Extraordinary.

ThePeppyOpalScroller · 22/05/2026 08:29

Purplelightening · 21/05/2026 20:14

I don't know why an adult man should find this awkward.

Because other people make allegations.

🙄

Itsnotfunbeingobtuse · 22/05/2026 08:27

FreeeeeeeeFreeFalling · 22/05/2026 08:24

This is hilarious. Hats off to you if you can control what 16 year olds wear. I don't actually want to, but if I did? I wouldn't have a bloody chance 😂

Well then she has to be accept being called out by others then, and humiliated, if you’re not going to do it.

Goditsmemargaret · 22/05/2026 08:26

I agree with everything you've said OP.

Every single thing.

I don't think you will get anywhere with your complaint (that you are aware of) but I still think you should file it so your daughter sees you supporting her. She did nothing wrong, she was dressed like her friends.

She was singled out and humiliated because of her large chest.
She was told she was potentially responsible for distracting adult men.

It is disgusting. I'd be furious.

And yes why do we STILL have stupid dress codes? They annoy me so much. I'm not sending my DD to a school with a uniform because I don't see what it is 'preparing' her for - corporate attire is surely on its way out?

StillTryingToKeepGoing · 22/05/2026 08:26

I work in a school and have had to ask a student to cover up when in a meeting with me. 6th former in very revealing bra top. I told her the outfit looked amazing and suited them, but it made me uncomfortable and not really work appropriate and to please chuck her cardigan back on. All done with smiles and no embarrassment.

But a man couldn’t give them the compliment first without weird accusations. And I don’t get accused of anything because I’m married with children. (And I’m in a role where students know I’m there to help them). I feel a sense of having to look out for my male colleagues because if they were to be accused of looking at a female student, it could very quickly escalate. I think the teacher is looking out for her colleagues. If she says something, they don’t have to.

I think it’s about mutual respect between staff and students.

Nottopanic · 22/05/2026 08:25

FreeeeeeeeFreeFalling · 22/05/2026 08:24

This is hilarious. Hats off to you if you can control what 16 year olds wear. I don't actually want to, but if I did? I wouldn't have a bloody chance 😂

Why do you think that’s funny?

FreeeeeeeeFreeFalling · 22/05/2026 08:24

Itsnotfunbeingobtuse · 22/05/2026 08:21

That’s ridiculous! Having worked in a school it’s embarrassing for the teachers to have pupils airing their bits in the classroom. It’s totally inappropriate. All kids should be covered up and dressed for school not the beach!

@FreeeeeeeeFreeFalling A vest top on a large chested girl at school isn’t appropriate. It looks ridiculous and no one wants to be made to recognise your DD has a chest whilst at school. You should have told her to cover up before she left the house. You humiliated her, not the teacher and the reason was not because male teachers wanted to look at her, the exact opposite in fact, they don’t want to and don’t want to be forced to!

This is hilarious. Hats off to you if you can control what 16 year olds wear. I don't actually want to, but if I did? I wouldn't have a bloody chance 😂

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EmeraldShamrock000 · 22/05/2026 08:23

FreeeeeeeeFreeFalling · 22/05/2026 08:17

That's interesting. Why would your teenage daughter hate that? What about it would bother her? I'm not sure there are many outfits a female teacher could wear which would upset my daughter.

I think she would be uncomfortable with both male or female teachers wearing skimpy clothes as in society we have learned to dress for the occasion.
Hot pants and a vest top is not professional workwear for a teacher.
How do you not know this?

Milly16 · 22/05/2026 08:22

HollyGolightly4 · 22/05/2026 08:09

How is a 16 year old not a child?

I have a 16 year old daughter and she is certainly a child emotionally, mentally, developmentally etc. But she is physically developed, obviously, with a young woman's figure. And in just over a year she will legally be an adult and be able to do whatever she likes within the law. So basically, not a child physically and in just over a year, not a child legally. I have 14 months to get her to not be (such a) child emotionally, mentally, developmentally and especially in her comprehension of the world, its norms, expectations, men's behaviour and drivers (good and bad), how to thrive in the world as it is 😬

supersop60 · 22/05/2026 08:22

FreeeeeeeeFreeFalling · 22/05/2026 08:17

That's interesting. Why would your teenage daughter hate that? What about it would bother her? I'm not sure there are many outfits a female teacher could wear which would upset my daughter.

Unless the teacher's body was model-perfect, they would attract comments about their skin, their shape, their size, their hair, their age etc.
Students notice everything (they will be looking at the teacher for several hours in a week) and they pass judgement all the time. A teacher showing a lot of flesh would attract a lot of EW comments. And would be very distracting.
Speaking as a former classroom teacher.

Namesuggestion101 · 22/05/2026 08:22

Angrybird76 · 22/05/2026 07:54

I didnt say I had done anything. I said I didnt feel that you were applying your advice to me, to yourself. If you think you have, that's fine. I have my view and you have yours. I dont believe that everyone has to think the same, and I dont resort to being rude to people who don't think the same way. before you say to haven't been rude, the things you have said that o think are rude are ' maybe you should educate yourself' 'maybe you should Google this' 'you have no idea what its like to be a teenage boy' please can you open your eyes a little' 'well done for controlling your son's erections' to name but a few. I have no doubt you will come back saying that they are not rude, but i think they are. Generally I find people who have to be aggressive to try to get their point across, fail miserably, but never see it. But anyway, it's a lovely day and a sunny bank holiday for once and I hope you enjoy the sunshine.

Jesus, it was you mentioned your child's wet dreams. If you can't talk about it on here, then have you really talked it through with your son? You can't comment on a thread then not discuss it openly and try to scensor other people. If you can't see that you hav also been rude then you need to look again. Rude with a healthy dose of the passive aggressive.

Lots of people seem to agree with me, so I hope a few have agreed with you too, so you can feel ok with your opinions and the childrens crotches that are on display. We all know it happens and like it or not, we all know you have looked and noticed too.

Parcelpass · 22/05/2026 08:21

Somethingtosayagain · 22/05/2026 08:07

I am talking about school, professional, church, other settings where many British think these areas of skin are beyond the pale.

Skirts are literally up their backsides these days. Im not sure if you live in England yourself but I do not agree with you. Have you seen what school girls wear? Full face of make up the lot...

Itsnotfunbeingobtuse · 22/05/2026 08:21

Purplelightening · 21/05/2026 20:05

Standard, women have to cover up because men can't control themselves 🙄. Disgusting comment. I would make a complaint.

That’s ridiculous! Having worked in a school it’s embarrassing for the teachers to have pupils airing their bits in the classroom. It’s totally inappropriate. All kids should be covered up and dressed for school not the beach!

@FreeeeeeeeFreeFalling A vest top on a large chested girl at school isn’t appropriate. It looks ridiculous and no one wants to be made to recognise your DD has a chest whilst at school. You should have told her to cover up before she left the house. You humiliated her, not the teacher and the reason was not because male teachers wanted to look at her, the exact opposite in fact, they don’t want to and don’t want to be forced to!

OtterlyAstounding · 22/05/2026 08:19

FreeeeeeeeFreeFalling · 22/05/2026 08:05

You know what, if I went into school and my DD's teacher was wearing hotpants, I actually might be quite relieved/impressed. It's no wonder so many kids are so terrified they can't go in, with all the nonensical austerity and the extent to which "education" is just training in conformity. Things that suggests a small willingness to not conform to expectations by the staff are, to me, usually a pretty good thing.

I do agree if one of the men (given it is an all girls school) came in in y-fronts, I would feel differently. But that would be because of concerns about sexual boundaries, not "inappropriateness for an office context".

Why on earth would you be "relieved/impressed" that your daughter's teacher wore hotpants?? What does that have to do with being a good, engaging teacher? And how is that 'relatable'? I wouldn't have particularly cared as a teenager, but both my kids would've viewed her with disdain for being such an attention seeker.

What if a male teacher came into school in hotpants?

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 22/05/2026 08:19

FreeeeeeeeFreeFalling · 22/05/2026 07:38

I have still never heard a decent argument for why anyone should accept unthinkingly the argument that "it's just not appropriate", about schoolwear, workwear, or whatever. As I think people on this thread have said, this is hugely tied to time, location, religion, etc. Victorians and ankles (etc etc). Toe the invisible, moving, sexist, unequally-applied line, everyone.

The only way the arguments you’ve heard on here aren’t valid would be if you don’t realise the humans view breasts and bottoms as sexual.

humans do view exposing part or all of breast and/or bottom is a sexual display.

Now the posters on here have started from the premise that you understand this as all adult humans understand this. They might not like this, but they understand.

So the full argument is: it is inappropriate to have part of your breasts uncovered at a work place because exposing part or all of your breasts are viewed by most humans as a sexual display and it’s not appropriate to make a sexual display in a work or educational setting.

Your dd is either year 11 or year 12, this is very close to leaving school and having a job age. She needs to learn how to dress appropriately for situations and understand the clothing we put on our bodies sends messages and which messages are appropriate to be sending in a work place and which ones are appropriate to be sending on a night out are not the same.

It sounds like the school is trying to teach her how to dress appropriate for different situations, is this something she’s going to learn at home or are you going to lie to her that no one will judge her negatively for choosing low cut breast exposing tops for work?

Parcelpass · 22/05/2026 08:18

ItchyandScratchiness · 22/05/2026 00:33

Have you seen how schoolgirls that age are dressing generally? Round my way, they are literally walking around in skirts that don't properly cover their butt cheeks, their underwear on show sometimes. It seems to be a trend..... my mother would have skinned me alive had I attempted to leave the house like that, 16 or otherwise.... Whilst I echo the sentiment of the majority of people, that how a woman dresses does not and should never be an invitation to sex, there does come the question of self-respect and then... whatever happened to a bit of modesty???

I have no idea which school(s) the girls I see regularly are attending, but one of them I recognise as a local Catholic school.... teachers should be telling them to dress appropriately. That's surely part of the discipline of the educational and growing up process?

Plus, the poor boys going through puberty, bad enough for them anyway, but with butts and boobs on display, it's distracting for them.

There's been a dress code at every single place I have ever worked and yes, it should be the same at school.

I fully agree! The buck stops with the parents. I think schools should enforce a rule of knee length skirts or pupils shall be sent home. It is down to the parents unfortunatly and as you can read from the thread we all have differing opinions. A local high school near to me which is catholic does not allow skirts at all (I think its unfair and thought it was odd) however giving this thread.... I can see why.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 22/05/2026 08:18

FreeeeeeeeFreeFalling · 22/05/2026 08:05

You know what, if I went into school and my DD's teacher was wearing hotpants, I actually might be quite relieved/impressed. It's no wonder so many kids are so terrified they can't go in, with all the nonensical austerity and the extent to which "education" is just training in conformity. Things that suggests a small willingness to not conform to expectations by the staff are, to me, usually a pretty good thing.

I do agree if one of the men (given it is an all girls school) came in in y-fronts, I would feel differently. But that would be because of concerns about sexual boundaries, not "inappropriateness for an office context".

So teachers should be non conformists? And that helps prepare children for the real world...how?

FreeeeeeeeFreeFalling · 22/05/2026 08:17

EmeraldShamrock000 · 22/05/2026 08:02

Relatable by wearing hot pants and a vest top.
Can you imagine a teacher dressed like that. My teenage daughter would hate that and not relate at all.
There is a dress code in life for a reason.

That's interesting. Why would your teenage daughter hate that? What about it would bother her? I'm not sure there are many outfits a female teacher could wear which would upset my daughter.

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