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To not agree to this Holiday ?

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copingjustfine · 21/05/2026 13:48

Can someone please advise me if I’m being unreasonable here ?

Me and dad not together, I have our 5 kids living with me full time, dad sees them 5 hours A fortnight for 5 hours through his choice, and refused over nights

But.. he still thinks he can have the upper hand on everything

He wants to take tow of the children to Portugal ( aged 15 and 14) for a week 5th July-12 th July 2026. When he initially asked for the old passports so he can renew them they got handed over and I warned him via email any holiday abroad need to be planned in the school holiday after the breakup end of July

Now he’s emailed me after passports have arrived that he’s taking them beginning July. I’ve said no as we will get fined and risk of prosecution for all those days off and he replies with ‘you’ve got a loud mouth and don’t think rationally’ he’s basically backing me into a corner to agree

He said he will ask permission from the headteacher and that he’s going to tell them he’s going for a funeral. ( which is a lie)

He’s making out that I’m unreasonable, but am I?

And I know people will say ‘just let him pay the fines’ but I know this man he will tell me to ignore the fines and he a ain’t paying them but i am not doing good financially I can’t have this on my head when I’m not even the one taking them for 5 days, if it was 1 or 2 days overlap on his weekend holiday it would be fine but 5 days !!

I know if the headteacher declines his permission he will still pressure me to hand the kids over to take them and Make me look bad to the kids. I’ve asked him when did he send the permission request and he’s ignored me

What would you do on this situation without becoming the bad guy to your kids ?

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ThatLemonBee · 21/05/2026 19:15

This is at least partly your fault ! Someone who only seen a child 10 hours a month should not have residency , you need to go to court and get yourself child arrangement order that states children love full time with you .
If he takes the kids without authority to do so then any judge will ill rule against him so use it

tarheelbaby · 21/05/2026 19:14

copingjustfine · 21/05/2026 18:29

Luckily they arrived at my address today

Great news! This makes everything easier. Just keep hold of the passports. (don't let on that they've arrived? find a safe place elsewhere for them? don't tell your DCs they've arrived? can their head of school hold them?)

Explain to your DCs that this holiday is bonkers. They are old enough to understand that you support school attendance and the concept of fines.

QuaintOrca · 21/05/2026 19:02

Nahh no chance. All kids or no kids and not in school term time.apply to courts and get a prohibited steps order to stop him from taking them if you feel very strongly about it. I'd be worried he's not had them over night and now wants the responsibility of taking them abroad?! What the helly.

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 21/05/2026 19:02

copingjustfine · 21/05/2026 18:29

Luckily they arrived at my address today

Fabulous- be clear to Ex he’s not getting the passports, you won’t give permission for the children to go in term time. How he manages getting his money back is his business.

Pherian · 21/05/2026 19:01

copingjustfine · 21/05/2026 13:48

Can someone please advise me if I’m being unreasonable here ?

Me and dad not together, I have our 5 kids living with me full time, dad sees them 5 hours A fortnight for 5 hours through his choice, and refused over nights

But.. he still thinks he can have the upper hand on everything

He wants to take tow of the children to Portugal ( aged 15 and 14) for a week 5th July-12 th July 2026. When he initially asked for the old passports so he can renew them they got handed over and I warned him via email any holiday abroad need to be planned in the school holiday after the breakup end of July

Now he’s emailed me after passports have arrived that he’s taking them beginning July. I’ve said no as we will get fined and risk of prosecution for all those days off and he replies with ‘you’ve got a loud mouth and don’t think rationally’ he’s basically backing me into a corner to agree

He said he will ask permission from the headteacher and that he’s going to tell them he’s going for a funeral. ( which is a lie)

He’s making out that I’m unreasonable, but am I?

And I know people will say ‘just let him pay the fines’ but I know this man he will tell me to ignore the fines and he a ain’t paying them but i am not doing good financially I can’t have this on my head when I’m not even the one taking them for 5 days, if it was 1 or 2 days overlap on his weekend holiday it would be fine but 5 days !!

I know if the headteacher declines his permission he will still pressure me to hand the kids over to take them and Make me look bad to the kids. I’ve asked him when did he send the permission request and he’s ignored me

What would you do on this situation without becoming the bad guy to your kids ?

Both parents have to agree to international travel. Otherwise, it’s kidnapping.

Just don’t plan any international holidays for the next four years and be a pain in the backside. Tell him he can only take the kids on designated school holidays within the U.K.

Get legal advice and put it in writing and shut his bullshit down entirely.

FreyaW · 21/05/2026 18:53

If he's going to say it's for a funeral..it would need to be last minute..he won't be submitting a permission slip months in advance.
TBF..by July, exams are over..the remaining time thereafter isn't that taxing..I'm not saying they don't do any work..but it's not the same as the frenzy and angst before the exams.
I'd get some reassurances thst he's gonna pay your fine, if you get one .

Creamteasandbumblebees · 21/05/2026 18:48

Please do not hand over your children's passports.
Have a word with the head teacher yourself

wherethewildrosesgrow · 21/05/2026 18:45

I don’t think he’ll get permission for a full week, the rules changed last year, even for funerals, not just up to the head, they can only authorise so many days.
you will both get the fine, if both of you are listed as parents.
Just don’t give him the letter of consent, yes I know they’ll be a hundred people saying that they’ve taken their children every year, and never been stopped, but you do need it.
Hell have to apply to the court.

OneShyQuail · 21/05/2026 18:45

PyongyangKipperbang · 21/05/2026 17:31

Both parents are fined, it isnt just one fine per child, so the OP would have to pay too and she has said that she can't afford to.

This isnt true. If parents are separated/divorced, then only the parent who went on the holiday pays the fine.
I have been in a sinilar situation twice, once it was me who took my daughter out (albeit for one day 🙄) and only I got fined, the other time it was her dad only he got fined

Fountinbeach · 21/05/2026 18:38

tarheelbaby · 21/05/2026 18:16

Where are the renewed passports? If you have them, just refuse to hand them over.
I agree with PPs that you need to notify school and make it clear that you are not supporting this. Then you can email the council with proof that you should not be fined for your XDH's holiday.

Definitely this.
Inform the school and safe guarding.
Seek advice from social services.
He wants to do something that will cause you fgrief and stress.
He barely sees his children.
I wouldn't be handing over the passports.
I would also jnform thdm of his intention to tell a lie.

LlynTegid · 21/05/2026 18:36

nomas · 21/05/2026 14:02

Warn the school / head teacher in writing that your ex is talking about taking the dc on a term time holiday this and that you have told him in writing that you do not agree and have told him to take them in the school holidays.

The school / courts can't hold you responsible if you have not agreed to ex's idea.

I agree with contacting the school.

I am sorry to read that your children have such a poor father.

Kittyninja267 · 21/05/2026 18:35

Starlight7080 · 21/05/2026 18:08

They will just end up being childcare for his other children. Just say no. They have school. Who cares what he says . Tell him to take you to court .

This is exactly what I thought, taking the eldest 2 so he and his missus can have a nice holiday while they look after their other children. No way I would agree to that

OhcantthInkofaname · 21/05/2026 18:31

Why is he taking just the older 2. Is it so he can leave them with the younger children while he and his wife go out?

copingjustfine · 21/05/2026 18:29

tarheelbaby · 21/05/2026 18:16

Where are the renewed passports? If you have them, just refuse to hand them over.
I agree with PPs that you need to notify school and make it clear that you are not supporting this. Then you can email the council with proof that you should not be fined for your XDH's holiday.

Luckily they arrived at my address today

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tarheelbaby · 21/05/2026 18:16

Where are the renewed passports? If you have them, just refuse to hand them over.
I agree with PPs that you need to notify school and make it clear that you are not supporting this. Then you can email the council with proof that you should not be fined for your XDH's holiday.

Dweetfidilove · 21/05/2026 18:15

TheChosenTwo · 21/05/2026 14:13

Are all 5 of the dc his? And he’s only proposing taking 2 of them? Why?

I doubt a knob who sees his kids 5hrs per fortnight, wants to bother with young ones on holiday. He's an embarrassment.

SmudgeButt · 21/05/2026 18:14

I would hope that at 14 & 15 your children are old/mature enough to understand why you need to say no.

DuellingBanjos · 21/05/2026 18:13

You need to seek legal advice and sort out a prohibited steps order. It’s quite straightforward if I remember rightly. There can be a flag put on their passports to prevent them leaving the country with him. Do your best to get the passports back in your possession, e.g. say you, your parents or the children are opening bank accounts for them or something.

Inform the school as well.

DalmationalAnthem · 21/05/2026 18:12

The man has at least seven kids?! (At least 2 with his current wife)

Insist he takes all five kids. No playing favourites. He can enjoy a peaceful holiday with seven kids and a massive fine at the end.

Looloolexi · 21/05/2026 18:10

And he's going during school time because it's cheaper. Be the better parent- he doesn't care really does he. Xx

Sunisgettinganewhaton · 21/05/2026 18:09

But will he actually take them? My exh had our 3 dc pack bags every year and that bastard never took them anywhere.. Not even a day out. Leave the costs and planning to him. Email the school and education department at the local council spelling out you absolutely do not give him consent..
And frankly enjoy the peace.. 2 teens abroad won't be cheap. You really will have the last laugh. Imo.

Starlight7080 · 21/05/2026 18:08

They will just end up being childcare for his other children. Just say no. They have school. Who cares what he says . Tell him to take you to court .

TheBloomingDahlia · 21/05/2026 18:05

Send him that link from a recent thread where the woman said she was taking her DC on holiday to see an ill relative and ended up with a criminal record

NormasArse · 21/05/2026 18:03

My guess would be that he’s picked the two eldest to take for childcare. It’s really unfair on the others though.

Tell the school you have not given this your blessing- I think they’ll back you up.

Badinfo · 21/05/2026 18:01

Fines are issued based on the information given by the school to the LA, I would put it in writing to school what he's suggesting and give them a copy of emails/texts where you have told him you do not give your permission and that you want them to stay in school, and that any fines are to be sent only to him.