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AIBU to think the Education Secretary interview with Gemma Collins was a mistake?

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PinkBobby · 20/05/2026 17:54

I have just watched a clip on social media of the Education Secretary sitting down with Gemma Collins (of TOWIE fame) and cannot believe they thought that’s the conversation schools/parents/teachers/SEN children need to hear right. I have nothing against Gemma Collins and think she could probably give a few govt departments some useful, blunt feedback but this feels like a huge fail.

Interested to hear if anyone thinks this is a PR success or agree it totally misses the mark.

YABU - It was a great discussion and you’re being unfair.

YANBU - The chat totally misses the mark and highlights the divide between politicians and the real world.

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Shedmistress · 21/05/2026 06:57

It is so bad it can only be good to show just how fuckIng clueless the whole shower of shit is.

WildEnergySupplier · 21/05/2026 06:50

It's totally cringeworthy and does nothing to help the issue.

Bridget Phillipson strikes me as someone who is totally performative and has zero substance.

Sartre · 21/05/2026 06:49

Rainallnight · 21/05/2026 06:47

I’ve only seen the clip that was shared upthread but I don’t get the link to the SEND reforms. Did they talk about those?

From what I saw they discussed Richard III for some really fucking weird reason. No idea who formulated that script.

Rainallnight · 21/05/2026 06:47

I’ve only seen the clip that was shared upthread but I don’t get the link to the SEND reforms. Did they talk about those?

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 21/05/2026 01:12

Kirbert2 · 21/05/2026 01:08

She's raising awareness. She has a large platform and is using it to try and make positive changes regarding the condition her twins have.

What is wrong with that?

Did I say there was? If she wants to post about them then fine.

Given the shitshow that is the NHS right now, Wes Streeting having a photo op with her wasn’t a good look, in my opinion.

Kirbert2 · 21/05/2026 01:08

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 21/05/2026 00:21

Also I said they were all over social media - am I wrong?

She's raising awareness. She has a large platform and is using it to try and make positive changes regarding the condition her twins have.

What is wrong with that?

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 21/05/2026 00:21

AllTheOddSocks · 21/05/2026 00:19

I’d research the story of Jesy’s twins before I posted such a judgy comment, if I were you.

Also I said they were all over social media - am I wrong?

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 21/05/2026 00:21

Grapefruitwarrior · 21/05/2026 00:19

I just would have loved to be a fly on the wall for the brainstorming session that produced this idea . I’m cringing just thinking about it.

It’s like something out of W1A

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 21/05/2026 00:20

AllTheOddSocks · 21/05/2026 00:19

I’d research the story of Jesy’s twins before I posted such a judgy comment, if I were you.

I am aware of it, thanks.

AllTheOddSocks · 21/05/2026 00:19

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 20/05/2026 17:58

Between Wes Streeting having a photo op with the one from Little Mix whose babies are all over social media and this shower of shit, they are pathetic

I’d research the story of Jesy’s twins before I posted such a judgy comment, if I were you.

Grapefruitwarrior · 21/05/2026 00:19

I just would have loved to be a fly on the wall for the brainstorming session that produced this idea . I’m cringing just thinking about it.

smallglassbottle · 21/05/2026 00:17

How cringeworthy. Really scraping the bottom of the barrel.

CaesarAugusta · 21/05/2026 00:11

Phillipson is now accusing everyone who objects of having vested interests and/or being joyless miseries. Despite having been claiming for weeks that she's listening to SEN parents, she just doesn't get it that her proposed reforms to the SEN system are causing massive worry and distress because they involve taking away significant rights, while she has no proposals to deliver what SEN parents actually want, i.e. adequate accountability to ensure that local authorities stop blatantly breaking the law. Accusing the parents of disabled children who have legitimate cause for concern of lacking "joy" is quite unbelievably crass of her.

I wish the leadership would realise that these proposed reforms are potentially disastrous. There's a very substantial sector of people involved one way or another in the SEND system, including teachers, who have been put off voting Labour for this reason alone.

Bunnycat101 · 21/05/2026 00:04

The bit I’m even more confused about really is what on earth they were trying to promote. The Secretary of State has said everyone is being a kill joy and there needs to be more fun. Gemma seemed to just talk about being crap at maths. There wasn’t exactly any substance or call to action. I could perhaps get it if they were trying to promote something new and wanted to target a specific population but they’ve picked someone totally suited and it’s not even clear what the actual bloody message is. I think my interns at work would have done a better job structuring a comms campaign.

And yes Bridget, we deserve a bit of joy but my child’s school can’t afford glue sticks without asking for parental contributions so maybe you should fix the basics first before pratting about with influencers. I think she’s getting to be even more unpopular as an education secretary than Gove.

CaesarAugusta · 21/05/2026 00:04

Ohwhatfuckeryitistoride · 20/05/2026 18:33

Apart from everything else, how is she relevant to young people today? She will seem ancient and unknown to most teenagers.

Phillipson thinks that she's terribly relevant to young people because she's been on TOWIE and pops on TV every so often. But the reality is that few people under 30 have a clue who she is, let alone think she is someone they want to support.

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 20/05/2026 23:09

Sartre · 20/05/2026 21:19

Decided to show my 16 yo DS the clip and he asked who the intended audience was because he has absolutely no idea who Gemma Collins even is! I’m not sure, really? They’ve massively missed the mark either way.

Can I just congratulate you - if your 16yo doesn’t know who Gemma Collins is, you have certainly done parenting right 😬

Sartre · 20/05/2026 21:19

Decided to show my 16 yo DS the clip and he asked who the intended audience was because he has absolutely no idea who Gemma Collins even is! I’m not sure, really? They’ve massively missed the mark either way.

Millytante · 20/05/2026 21:15

noblegiraffe · 20/05/2026 18:45

Also, when queried how much it cost, Bridget Phillipson said she had bought Gemma 'a couple of cans of Red Bull'.

FFS you're meant to be adults. Red Bull. Why not get her a giant bag of Haribo to go with it?

Phillipson is a thorough disgrace anyway, and just about everything this incomprehensibly perverse version of a Labour government says or does feels like a brutal satire by some conservative TV show.

JohnnyMcGrathSaysFuckOff · 20/05/2026 20:52

Tortoisel · 20/05/2026 19:48

I raise you this.. 😂

This is the first thing I saw and for a moment I actually thought this was what Labour had produced 😂😂😂

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0FeT6wB_VzE

Edited

Awesome!

Tbh: its points about education are sounder.

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 20/05/2026 20:13

Thing is, Gemma Collins is a joke. Her fans probably don’t vote as they can’t understand it so it’s backfired

OneTealShaker · 20/05/2026 20:04

To be fair, Gemma Collins’ IQ probably far exceeds that of Bridget Philipson.

Tortoisel · 20/05/2026 19:48

JohnnyMcGrathSaysFuckOff · 20/05/2026 19:06

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/yzsmLdstMsA

Just lodging this here for anyone who missed it.

Gold, absolute gold 🤣

This is the DfE, folks, the actual Department for Education.

I raise you this.. 😂

This is the first thing I saw and for a moment I actually thought this was what Labour had produced 😂😂😂

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0FeT6wB_VzE

EasternStandard · 20/05/2026 19:40

Bizarre

Bunnycat101 · 20/05/2026 19:38

i think DFE massively cocked this up. People are raging on social media especially SEN campaigners. I literally don’t understand what on earth they were thinking. What makes it worse is that Gemma has talked openly before about not seeing school as important and not really giving a shit. What better advocate to consult about our education system?

What is actually worse is the crazy tweet that Gemma put out in response to the backlash which was along the lines of ‘don’t worry babe I’m going to fix it all’.

That response has pissed people off even more from what I’ve seen and just shows she was never qualified to be having that sort of ‘chat’ in the first place.

Newsenmum · 20/05/2026 19:37

Ooodelally · 20/05/2026 18:39

They think all SEN parents are “chavs” and they think Gemma Collins will appeal to that demographic. They make me sick.

That’s what I wondered. Maybe that’s what we’re all supposed to be like?