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AIBU to expect parents to tidy up in cafés?

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wrinklycactus · 20/05/2026 11:29

Since having a baby I've had a different perspective on lots of things.. including the mess left by some parents in cafes/ restaurants with babies and toddlers in high chairs.

I was in M&S cafe yesterday looking for somewhere to sit with my toddler, and the only free table looked like an absolute bomb site - crumbs and spillages everywhere, high chair a total mess - they'd just left it for the poor staff to clean up.

I appreciate I only have one kid to think about, but I always clean up after feeding him in a cafe if we've made a massive mess (and we are BLW so we definitely do make a mess!)

Obviously I don't worry about every crumb but I couldn't live with leaving a table in the state that I saw yesterday.

I know there are circumstances where you have to leave in a rush and kids are having meltdowns etc, I'm not talking about that - just talking about generally leaving your bomb site for the staff to clean up or the next person to inherit!

AIBU to think this is just rude and inconsiderate?

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LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 21/05/2026 07:53

peppaispoop · 21/05/2026 07:33

Yes keep the filthy children locked up at home like back in your day

You are taking this very personally and spectacularly missing the point. It’s the parents who leave shit being criticised.

Clearly this has hit a nerve 🤣

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 21/05/2026 07:51

imisscashmere · 20/05/2026 22:31

Let’s hope you never have to find out.

Well if it did happen, she probably wouldn’t behave as badly as the OP of that thread. If you didn’t read it then you can’t comment on it because it wasn’t quite as simple as you think

Tel12 · 21/05/2026 07:51

I watched a baby in a highchair tear bread chuck it everywhere. Two ladies just sat chatting away happy baby was amusing itself. They literally got up and left it.

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 21/05/2026 07:49

Wishingplenty · 20/05/2026 22:05

These replies are hilarious. Bet you would all be happy to be surrounded by dogs in an eating establishment and not bat an eyelid? Society has lost the plot entirely, when dogs are revered and normalised, and children are seen as the enemy.

WTF have dogs got to do with the discussion??

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 21/05/2026 07:48

Floppyearedlab · 20/05/2026 21:53

There is no way I would leave puke, my own or my child’s and not clear it up. That is just skanky.

The OP of that thread claimed to have been mortified but the thread took some very bizarre turns with her calling all the other posters various insults until MN took the thread down.

Bamboozle30001 · 21/05/2026 07:47

Cleaner here. I clean a family restaurant and weekends and over school holidays the place is disgusting. Even the adults are absolute tramps and leave the place in a terrible state. The toilets are the worst...and thats even in the ladies loos too.

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 21/05/2026 07:46

imisscashmere · 20/05/2026 20:40

Wow, I bet you’ve never had a child vomit in a cafe!! Neither have I (touch wood, so far), but I can well imagine it being an absolutely chaotic disaster and maybe I just leave in a mortified or worried rush. Maybe the woman’s child was ill, maybe she was unwell herself, you have no idea what she was dealing with.

You clearly didn’t see the thread (before it was deleted because the OP was a nasty piece of work).

Perhaps don’t comment on a thread you haven’t seen.

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 21/05/2026 07:41

peppaispoop · 21/05/2026 07:33

Yes keep the filthy children locked up at home like back in your day

Hardly!
I pointed out it isn’t always easy to tidy up when you’re on your own with DC. I also pointed out that it was a while ago for me so I don’t remember the details of how it went. Eating out was expensive, we didn’t have much money with small DC, so mainly ate at home or took food with us. I actually remember staying out as long as possible because DS1 was hard work at home. But we had a lot of picnics.

You're being really snippy, taking offence at that.

Dollymylove · 21/05/2026 07:39

mamajong · 20/05/2026 11:40

Yanbu however when mine were little on many occasions when I started to clear up or asked for a dustpan and brush the staff insisted that they would do it and it was no problem. DS has a part time job in hospitality and they are not allowed to let diners clear up their own mess and always intervene if they see people doing it, as company policy.

So yanbu but there might be more to it.

Probably insurance purposes. Staff are paid to do the work. Customers are not.
Diners in a restaurant are not expected to clear the tables and sweep up so why would parents in cafe be expected to?

peppaispoop · 21/05/2026 07:33

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 21/05/2026 07:28

I notice lots of people are saying ‘we’ about clearing up. When there’s just you, sometimes the best thing you can do is take your messy child away!

It wasn’t that usual to be eating out all the time when mine were small though. I don’t remember being in that position.

Yes keep the filthy children locked up at home like back in your day

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 21/05/2026 07:28

I notice lots of people are saying ‘we’ about clearing up. When there’s just you, sometimes the best thing you can do is take your messy child away!

It wasn’t that usual to be eating out all the time when mine were small though. I don’t remember being in that position.

meatbaseddessert · 21/05/2026 07:27

It’s the same mentality that means that families with small children who book my Airbnb leave it either looking like the Marie Celeste (literally checked out leaving their breakfast plates, bins full of dirty nappies, my books and games strewn all over the floor, sticky mess everywhere, half eaten stuff in the fridge) or just dirty, crumbs everywhere, stuff mashed into the carpet, marks on walls, half broken things where kids have misused them and my favourite, the remote controls totally missing.
I’ve now banned under 16s and allowed dogs and the place is left pristine everytime. Never again.

BiddlyBipBipBeeBop · 21/05/2026 07:25

These are the people bringing up the kids who grow up to drop litter and leave their table McDonalds looking like a war zone. Filthy, inconsiderate and entitled.

Doone22 · 21/05/2026 07:23

mydogisthebest · 20/05/2026 22:13

No one has said children are the enemy but if they make a disgusting mess then the parent(s) should clear it up.

I don't see dogs getting crumbs all over the floor, putting bits of food all over the table, leaving cutlery spread across the table, spilling drink on the floor and table.

The dogs I see lay quietly and well behaved.

And they definitely don't leave crumbs 😀

Doone22 · 21/05/2026 07:21

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I guess you're the person leaving the world around them looking like shit then.
Thanks

TheIceBear · 21/05/2026 06:21

I try to clean us as best I can with napkins etc but I wouldn’t ask for a dust pan and brush .

Getmeacoffeenow · 21/05/2026 06:06

TinDogTavern · 20/05/2026 22:43

I worked in a cinema and a mum came over and said her little boy had had a “bit of an accident” outside one of the screens. Went over to sort it - shit everywhere. On carpet. She was not “rushing off, mortified”. She was just leaving it for someone else.

Oh no!!!! Our child was quite far into potty training but completely unexpected he decided to do a big wee through his shorts on a pub/diner floor, it was a huge place and the toilets were far away.

I was mortified but told staff straight away and offered to clean, but they were so lovely and insisted they did it.

He also vomited in Costa once and again staff insisted they clean it and were really kind.

HardFuckingBird · 20/05/2026 23:03

I wouldn't usually clean up after myself, assuming the mess was just normal crumbs etc. If I wanted to tidy up after myself I'd save my money and eat at home. The employees of the café are paid to make tables ready for the next customer. If bodily fluids were involved, or if I spilled a drink or something, that's different and I'd gladly help to clean that up.

peppaispoop · 20/05/2026 22:45

Perhaps back in 1992 you were allowed to grab the dustpan and brush but you can’t now. Staff have to do it. I usually try to pick most of the food up and use wipes though

TinDogTavern · 20/05/2026 22:43

I worked in a cinema and a mum came over and said her little boy had had a “bit of an accident” outside one of the screens. Went over to sort it - shit everywhere. On carpet. She was not “rushing off, mortified”. She was just leaving it for someone else.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 20/05/2026 22:31

Wishingplenty · 20/05/2026 22:05

These replies are hilarious. Bet you would all be happy to be surrounded by dogs in an eating establishment and not bat an eyelid? Society has lost the plot entirely, when dogs are revered and normalised, and children are seen as the enemy.

I don’t like messy people. I think it is selfish and piggy. I also couldn’t think of anything worse than a dog cafe. I love my own dog, she’s a dog who enjoys the fields not a cafe.

imisscashmere · 20/05/2026 22:31

Floppyearedlab · 20/05/2026 21:53

There is no way I would leave puke, my own or my child’s and not clear it up. That is just skanky.

Let’s hope you never have to find out.

mydogisthebest · 20/05/2026 22:13

Wishingplenty · 20/05/2026 22:05

These replies are hilarious. Bet you would all be happy to be surrounded by dogs in an eating establishment and not bat an eyelid? Society has lost the plot entirely, when dogs are revered and normalised, and children are seen as the enemy.

No one has said children are the enemy but if they make a disgusting mess then the parent(s) should clear it up.

I don't see dogs getting crumbs all over the floor, putting bits of food all over the table, leaving cutlery spread across the table, spilling drink on the floor and table.

The dogs I see lay quietly and well behaved.

Wishingplenty · 20/05/2026 22:05

These replies are hilarious. Bet you would all be happy to be surrounded by dogs in an eating establishment and not bat an eyelid? Society has lost the plot entirely, when dogs are revered and normalised, and children are seen as the enemy.

Floppyearedlab · 20/05/2026 21:53

imisscashmere · 20/05/2026 20:40

Wow, I bet you’ve never had a child vomit in a cafe!! Neither have I (touch wood, so far), but I can well imagine it being an absolutely chaotic disaster and maybe I just leave in a mortified or worried rush. Maybe the woman’s child was ill, maybe she was unwell herself, you have no idea what she was dealing with.

There is no way I would leave puke, my own or my child’s and not clear it up. That is just skanky.