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AIBU to expect parents to tidy up in cafés?

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wrinklycactus · 20/05/2026 11:29

Since having a baby I've had a different perspective on lots of things.. including the mess left by some parents in cafes/ restaurants with babies and toddlers in high chairs.

I was in M&S cafe yesterday looking for somewhere to sit with my toddler, and the only free table looked like an absolute bomb site - crumbs and spillages everywhere, high chair a total mess - they'd just left it for the poor staff to clean up.

I appreciate I only have one kid to think about, but I always clean up after feeding him in a cafe if we've made a massive mess (and we are BLW so we definitely do make a mess!)

Obviously I don't worry about every crumb but I couldn't live with leaving a table in the state that I saw yesterday.

I know there are circumstances where you have to leave in a rush and kids are having meltdowns etc, I'm not talking about that - just talking about generally leaving your bomb site for the staff to clean up or the next person to inherit!

AIBU to think this is just rude and inconsiderate?

OP posts:
LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 21/05/2026 10:22

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 21/05/2026 10:03

Was that the thread where the OP stated off vaguely vulnerable and then started recounting the outrageous comments her husband made about the waitress due to her weight and tearing into posters who pointed out it was unacceptable?

It could also be a completely different one. There are so many fake batshit threads on here these days it's hard to keep up.

That’s the one. She ended up calling everyone on here fat cows or something

SweetnsourNZ · 21/05/2026 10:17

Bamboozle30001 · 21/05/2026 07:47

Cleaner here. I clean a family restaurant and weekends and over school holidays the place is disgusting. Even the adults are absolute tramps and leave the place in a terrible state. The toilets are the worst...and thats even in the ladies loos too.

I owned a family restaurant in the 90s and used to do the cleaning myself. Never had any problems which makes me think people have just become more feral.
Here shocking tales from motel cleaners and yes, they say the women can be the worst.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 21/05/2026 10:03

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 21/05/2026 07:48

The OP of that thread claimed to have been mortified but the thread took some very bizarre turns with her calling all the other posters various insults until MN took the thread down.

Was that the thread where the OP stated off vaguely vulnerable and then started recounting the outrageous comments her husband made about the waitress due to her weight and tearing into posters who pointed out it was unacceptable?

It could also be a completely different one. There are so many fake batshit threads on here these days it's hard to keep up.

SweetnsourNZ · 21/05/2026 10:02

toastofthetown · 20/05/2026 11:36

I agree. We also BLW with a nosy baby who would get distracted easily so made a lot of mess. We always clean up, and I’ve actually noticed a lot of times when we’re cleaning up or we ask for more napkins or a dustpan and brush, the staff often say they’re happy to clean up because they appreciate we’ve made an effort. It’s probably more of an issue in places like large M&S cafes where staffing has been cut to the bare bones and there just isn’t enough staff to clean up tables after they’re vacated anyway, regardless of the level of mess there.

Modern staffing is an issue. When I was a waitress I would always quickly step in when a family was finished as soon as Mum (and it was always the mother) started clearing up. Eating out should be a break and treat for everyone. Staffing is a lot thinner on the ground these days though.
McDonald's and the like you are expected to clear you rubbish though.
At our local food court the staff do it and they have no rubbish bins anyway but they have plenty of staff that will even clear used plates etc while your eating.
Not sure about M&S as I am not in UK.

FaceIt · 21/05/2026 09:45

Yes, sadly sometimes people just don’t give a sh*t these days.

wrinklycactus · 21/05/2026 09:28

SummerInSun · 20/05/2026 11:40

YANBU but some places make it easier than others. When there are plenty of serviettes available to wipe down the table, a clear place to leave the used crockery and glasses, and bins to put rubbish in, it’s much easier than when there are none of those things. The chains, for all their weaknesses, get this and usually provide these things, but lots of independent places don’t.

Parents of babies always leave the house with a bag full of wipes, muslins and nappy bags. They have all the stuff they need in their bag!

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mydogisthebest · 21/05/2026 09:03

Usernamenotav · 21/05/2026 08:50

I always clean up, but SO often the staff come over and tell me not to and that's it's their job. Maybe that happened in this case?
I personally think it's the right thing to do, but as someone who has previously been a waitress, I would never have expected it and never thought badly of anyone that didn't. It was my job after all.

I think if you're walking into a messy table that's technically the staffs fault for not clearing.

I agree that it's the staffs' job to clear tables but why not make things a bit easier for them? It's not difficult to scoop crumbs, bits of food off the table and put them on a plate. It's not difficult to not spread all the cutlery around the table rather than putting them on a plate.

Quicker and easier for staff to clear a table where the plates are at least together if not stacked, cutlery on a plate, table not covered in crumbs, bits of food, smear of sauce, drink spills etc. I assume most people would not get up from their table at home and leave it like that so why do it when out?

HoldItAllTogether · 21/05/2026 08:54

It’s scummy and lazy of parents not to clear up after kids have made a mess.

usererror99 · 21/05/2026 08:52

Yes absolutely - i have 3 kids including a set of twins - I always make an effort to clean up what I can and think it’s incredibly entitled and lazy of parents who don’t

(have to admit though it’s not the parents who are the main culprits …. Plenty of people who I see eating out in cafes seem to have a problem tidying up after themselves!)

Usernamenotav · 21/05/2026 08:50

I always clean up, but SO often the staff come over and tell me not to and that's it's their job. Maybe that happened in this case?
I personally think it's the right thing to do, but as someone who has previously been a waitress, I would never have expected it and never thought badly of anyone that didn't. It was my job after all.

I think if you're walking into a messy table that's technically the staffs fault for not clearing.

lebin · 21/05/2026 08:49

ThreeStripeQueen · 21/05/2026 08:33

I don’t understand how so much mess is being made. I’ve taken all mine out to eat from being babies and aside from the odd knocked over drink or a few dropped bits of pasta or whatever there’s never been loads of mess to clear up.

Agree! If my baby dropped something I picked it up there and then, I didn’t just let it accumulate.

Floppyearedlab · 21/05/2026 08:49

Pricelessadvice · 21/05/2026 08:18

What’s that got to do with the price of fish?
So it’s ok for scummy parents to leave their kids mess everywhere because people can take dogs into cafes??

The majority of dogs don’t spill drinks all over the tables and chairs and leave food debris everywhere.
I’d rather sit where there’s been a dog under the table than where there’s been a toddler.

My dog usually does a bit of cleaning. If some of the filthy people described in this thread have chucked food on the floor and swanned off, he hoovers it up.

boundtobe · 21/05/2026 08:48

I was in a restaurant recently where the table and floor was covered in food after a family of three had eaten. The mother picked the baby up and walked off whilst the father wheeled the pushchair all over the food on the floor. I honestly couldn't believe it.

I clean up after myself and would definitely have picked food up from the floor.

Floppyearedlab · 21/05/2026 08:48

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 21/05/2026 07:48

The OP of that thread claimed to have been mortified but the thread took some very bizarre turns with her calling all the other posters various insults until MN took the thread down.

Yes I remember!
Yeah totally mortified - mortified that she got caught before she could get away with it! Totally skanky

mydogisthebest · 21/05/2026 08:42

Dollymylove · 21/05/2026 07:39

Probably insurance purposes. Staff are paid to do the work. Customers are not.
Diners in a restaurant are not expected to clear the tables and sweep up so why would parents in cafe be expected to?

Well even in a restaurant me and DH leave the table with at least the dishes together and cutlery on the dish/plate not just spread over the table. If there are breadcrumbs on the table I would scoop them up and put them on a plate.

Just good manners

TallSturdyGirl · 21/05/2026 08:34

Pricelessadvice · 20/05/2026 11:34

You can always tell when a table has been occupied by a family with young children because there’ll be mess everywhere and food all over the floor.
It just shows the general attitude of people nowadays.

Please stop with the nowadays. Is to work in a cafe in the 80s and people were bad then as well.

ThreeStripeQueen · 21/05/2026 08:33

I don’t understand how so much mess is being made. I’ve taken all mine out to eat from being babies and aside from the odd knocked over drink or a few dropped bits of pasta or whatever there’s never been loads of mess to clear up.

Pricelessadvice · 21/05/2026 08:18

Wishingplenty · 20/05/2026 22:05

These replies are hilarious. Bet you would all be happy to be surrounded by dogs in an eating establishment and not bat an eyelid? Society has lost the plot entirely, when dogs are revered and normalised, and children are seen as the enemy.

What’s that got to do with the price of fish?
So it’s ok for scummy parents to leave their kids mess everywhere because people can take dogs into cafes??

The majority of dogs don’t spill drinks all over the tables and chairs and leave food debris everywhere.
I’d rather sit where there’s been a dog under the table than where there’s been a toddler.

Dollymylove · 21/05/2026 08:12

Wishingplenty · 20/05/2026 22:05

These replies are hilarious. Bet you would all be happy to be surrounded by dogs in an eating establishment and not bat an eyelid? Society has lost the plot entirely, when dogs are revered and normalised, and children are seen as the enemy.

Dogs are usually better behaved than many children I have seen in cafes/restaurants and will quietly sit under table waiting for a titbit or two

Didimum · 21/05/2026 08:12

I have twins and I always, always cleaned up after them properly. I stack plates up for waiting staff too.

imisscashmere · 21/05/2026 08:10

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 21/05/2026 07:51

Well if it did happen, she probably wouldn’t behave as badly as the OP of that thread. If you didn’t read it then you can’t comment on it because it wasn’t quite as simple as you think

I can comment in what I like thanks! Incidentally, I did read the OP.

imisscashmere · 21/05/2026 08:09

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 21/05/2026 07:46

You clearly didn’t see the thread (before it was deleted because the OP was a nasty piece of work).

Perhaps don’t comment on a thread you haven’t seen.

I had read the OP, thanks.

Barrenfieldoffucks · 21/05/2026 07:54

I will always (even without kids) do a quick sweep of crumbs etc off the table and onto a plate. Plates stacked or put together, anything big off the floor. I won't Scrabble around down there scraping up crumbs, as a broom or similar is better for that.

TooMuchCooffee · 21/05/2026 07:54

I always make sure I clean up. Honestly, we don't usually leave a mess and I'm a bit baffled HOW some families do but I'm paranoid about my favourite cafes not liking me coming with my toddler so I just leave the places spotless. I always have antibacterial wipes as well as wet wipes with me so usually the table is cleaner than when I found it 😂

Gloriousgardener11 · 21/05/2026 07:53

I’m afraid it’s becoming more of a problem and I feel sorry for the poor staff who have to clean after them.
I wonder if their own homes are a similar mess?