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to think some retired people completely forget what it’s like to be working full time?

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cupofcup · 20/05/2026 11:02

I know retirement is not always easy and older people can have health issues, caring responsibilities etc. But I do think some people genuinely forget what it is like to juggle work, commuting, childcare, housework and just basic life admin all at once.

My DM is retired and will often say how busy she is because she has shopping on Tuesday and a doctor’s appointment on Friday. That is apparently an exhausting week. She is in good health and active. Meanwhile most working people are fitting those things around 40+ hour working weeks.

My retired neighbour constantly comments on how awful another neighbour’s garden looks and how she should tidy it up. The neighbour she is talking about is a working mum with young children who leaves the house at 7am every day. My retired neighbour has a gardener.

Obviously NOT ALL retired people are like this at all. Some are incredibly understanding and helpful. But others seem to completely lose perspective on how relentless working life can be, especially with children.

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cupofcup · 21/05/2026 15:29

dottiehens · 21/05/2026 15:18

They have not forgotten. But of course they are tired. If some do not feel tired good for them. I started to feel tired at 50. Menopause and mental load was the cause. Much rather be home resting than bothering with stuff that I now find exhausting. I put a lot of effort into working and raising my family. My job is done and is up to me what do I do with my life.

Edited

It is upto everybody what they do with their life.

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Tshirtking · 21/05/2026 15:27

Differentforgirls · 21/05/2026 13:16

Don't you think you're now taking this a bit too far? We're all different.

No I don't. OP spent the majority of yesterday afternoon making this thread, constantly checking messages and responding to them all while supposedly working 🙄 In that time she could have called her dad because going by this thread he wants to talk his daughter. She could easily have spent 10 minutes talking to him a possibly making his day brighter, but she didn't she spent the time whining instead. OPs dad a has a point about her

dottiehens · 21/05/2026 15:18

They have not forgotten. But of course they are tired. If some do not feel tired good for them. I started to feel tired at 50. Menopause and mental load was the cause. Much rather be home resting than bothering with stuff that I now find exhausting. I put a lot of effort into working and raising my family. My job is done and is up to me what do I do with my life.

cardibach · 21/05/2026 14:35

cupofcup · 21/05/2026 12:00

Glad you have noticed too. It is like people can't read.

Maybe they are too bitter and angry....

Your OP just talks about retired people forgetting what it’s like to be busy at work, your evidence being they say they have a busy week with just a few appointments or plans. When I say I’m busy I mean I) the context of my life. I completely remember what it was like to work full time as a single parent. I’m not comparing my busy-ness now to then at all.
You only started talking about the judgement you seem to get in later posts after people said you were unreasonable to complain abput older people saying they were busy while doing stacks less than you. As a counter anecdote, I never encountered judgement from retired people (or anyone else) when I was a working single parent and cut corners to get some relaxation time (or just survive). Your problem isn’t retired people. It’s your mum and very odd neighbours. And you’ve triggered a lot of ageist responses from others with your post - not your fault of course, but that’s what’s making people hit back a bit.

Differentforgirls · 21/05/2026 13:39

coulditbeme2323 · 21/05/2026 13:28

Haha - well it is a full time job for me!

Good for you actually. I'd have loved that, but just for a bit. I liked job share, best of both plus I could retire at 60 with a good pension.

Your children are very lucky.

LakieLady · 21/05/2026 13:37

My DM is retired and will often say how busy she is because she has shopping on Tuesday and a doctor’s appointment on Friday. That is apparently an exhausting week.

I'm retired, and I do the same! Well, not that it's exhausting, but it feels busy.

This week I had a counselling session on Monday, dentist on Tuesday (and it was a specialist thing so I had to go to a surgery 20-odd miles away), and I have an acupuncture appointment tomorrow.

Next weekend I'm dogsitting for 3 days so will have to drag my knackered old knees for 2 walks a day.

Differentforgirls · 21/05/2026 13:33

cupofcup · 21/05/2026 12:52

Not you as well 😂

No. I just think it's funny. 😂 I have never baked bread in my life!

coulditbeme2323 · 21/05/2026 13:28

Differentforgirls · 21/05/2026 13:24

"but have 3 kids which is a full time job"

Haha - well it is a full time job for me!

Differentforgirls · 21/05/2026 13:24

coulditbeme2323 · 21/05/2026 08:51

I said like a full time job

"but have 3 kids which is a full time job"

Shinyandnew1 · 21/05/2026 13:22

NotAnotherChickenNugget · 21/05/2026 12:08

I work full time with 2 primary aged children and my mum does this and everyone always expects me to arrange family get togethers (despite the fact my parents are retired and my sister is single without kids and works a part time job). They are all always “so busy” and apparently I have loads of time (despite the fact my youngest is a nightmare going to bed so I get about an hour to myself in the evening when I’m actually trying to do all my life admin)!

Don’t do it and say why,

’sorry, I work full time and have two kids and don’t have the time to organise this (or any) get together’ and stick to it.

Differentforgirls · 21/05/2026 13:16

Tshirtking · 21/05/2026 08:27

All this time you have been checking and posting on here. Some of that time you could have called your dad, put that time to some actual use but you chose to put utter rubbish on here instead. Your dad has a point. I call my dad at least 3-4 times a week, I prioritise the time, you could to if you put your mind to it. Once he's gone you will regret everything you said on here

Don't you think you're now taking this a bit too far? We're all different.

Differentforgirls · 21/05/2026 13:10

ilovesooty · 21/05/2026 07:43

I agree with the OP. I'm 70 and still working part time 4 days a week. I have plenty of retired friends who think they're very busy though.

What do you do?

cupofcup · 21/05/2026 12:52

Differentforgirls · 21/05/2026 12:48

Tbf, you'd have been quicker baking bread.

Not you as well 😂

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Differentforgirls · 21/05/2026 12:48

cupofcup · 20/05/2026 18:35

Did you understand my post? Spending some time on here is not like baking bread, tending to the garden for hours on end like DM is telling me to do.

Can you really not see the difference?

Tbf, you'd have been quicker baking bread.

Differentforgirls · 21/05/2026 12:31

OnionFishDiamond · 20/05/2026 16:10

Well the example I have is my parents my mum is 63…

I'm 62. My mum worked full time from when we were all at school, cooked from scratch and had a lovely house and garden. There were three of us.

NotAnotherChickenNugget · 21/05/2026 12:08

I work full time with 2 primary aged children and my mum does this and everyone always expects me to arrange family get togethers (despite the fact my parents are retired and my sister is single without kids and works a part time job). They are all always “so busy” and apparently I have loads of time (despite the fact my youngest is a nightmare going to bed so I get about an hour to myself in the evening when I’m actually trying to do all my life admin)!

cupofcup · 21/05/2026 12:01

EmmaB1309 · 21/05/2026 11:24

I dunno. I do sort of agree, but then again I also think retired people have probably earned the right to slow down and fill their life with smaller things. You say she is active. Maybe she is spending her days on hobbies and small projects that you don’t see. Also remember that older people can tire more easily, so what she feels is a busy day is busy for her, even if it’s not to you looking in. Even if she’s only did some housework, did some jobs in the garden, met a friend for coffee and got some shopping.
I don’t think it does us any good mentally to get into mean spirited comparisons about how our lives are so much harder/busier/more stressful than other peoples.

I am not getting into mean spirited discussions about who has it harder than who.

It is not about older people getting tired.

Try reading the OP.

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thepariscrimefiles · 21/05/2026 12:01

Jk987 · 21/05/2026 07:51

But they’ve been there done that, got the pension! Why shouldn’t they enjoy their twice weekly appointments and trip to the garden centre?

OP's mum has never worked though. I'm not sure what she's retired from. Of course she can enjoy their twice weekly appointments and trip to the garden centre, but she shouldn't be calling OP lazy because she doesn't have time to do as much housework as she did.

cupofcup · 21/05/2026 12:00

SerenaCat93 · 21/05/2026 11:17

No she's not. People are completely failing to understand what she has written multiple times. It's almost obviously deliberate at this point.

Glad you have noticed too. It is like people can't read.

Maybe they are too bitter and angry....

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thepariscrimefiles · 21/05/2026 11:49

cupofcup · 20/05/2026 21:59

Why would I want to do all that? DM would call that cheating.

She says I am lazy because I have a dishwasher and how she hand washes all her dishes.

How dare she call you lazy when she's never even had a job! My ex-MIL never worked after she got married and she was a martyr to doing housework the hard way, no new fangled appliances like automatic washing machines for her. She still used a twin-tub and a flipping mangle in the early 1990s. They were well-off btw so it wasn't that they couldn't afford new appliances.

LemonyCurd · 21/05/2026 11:44

It’s a bit wild how many people aren’t understanding the point of your post.

I totally agree. I don’t begrudge my mother’s retirement and I completely get that her energy levels are not going to be the same as when she was younger. The frustrating part is she makes zero attempt to understand that not all lives are like hers yet expects everyone else to be flexible around her. She is incapable (or unwilling) to understand that when I am working I am unable to take her calls, that her definition of urgent isn’t remotely objective, and that if I spend a Saturday morning with her then it means certain other things in my life cannot happen. Her tolerance seems to have taken a nosedive, and she has become more self-preoccupied. Other relatives who have retired early (due to wealth, and the are much younger and energetic) also act very similarly. They expect constant compromise from others and refuse to meet anyone part way on anything, making snide comments when you express any sort of boundaries around your time.

Maybe I just know terrible people.

cardibach · 21/05/2026 11:27

Crikeyalmighty · 20/05/2026 18:13

To balance this up though neither of my grandmothers worked , my mum did 10 hours a week right up to me being an adult, very few of my friends mothers worked more than 12 hours a week - if at all - and I’m from a midlands mining town - and am 64 - my MIL did odd bits of part time and 2 years of full time when my H was 15 - some women did work FT yes, but far less I think , especially if not in a ‘career’- I myself ( now 64) was back at work full time with a 13 week old and a childminder and not out of choice

Edited

You are part of the generation she says ‘typically’ wouldn’t have two working parents. It’s her mum in her early 60s she’s using as her example. I’m 61. Literally none of my friends gave up work when they had kids. I don’t know a single SAHM from our generation (though obviously there are some - it just wasn’t ‘typical’ as that poster suggested). Yes, for our parents - who would now be in their 80s+ it was more common to be a SAHM, though my mum wasn’t and neither were most of my friends’ mums.

EmmaB1309 · 21/05/2026 11:24

I dunno. I do sort of agree, but then again I also think retired people have probably earned the right to slow down and fill their life with smaller things. You say she is active. Maybe she is spending her days on hobbies and small projects that you don’t see. Also remember that older people can tire more easily, so what she feels is a busy day is busy for her, even if it’s not to you looking in. Even if she’s only did some housework, did some jobs in the garden, met a friend for coffee and got some shopping.
I don’t think it does us any good mentally to get into mean spirited comparisons about how our lives are so much harder/busier/more stressful than other peoples.

Samesame47 · 21/05/2026 11:18

I am semi retired now at 49, my husband fully retired at 55. But we have been there, him working 60 hour weeks and often away, me juggling babies, animals, work, running a house often single handed. I found I got into a routine and it was exhausting but also manageable, we had extremely busy lives and very little down time, but I was also young, had no aches and pains, was full of energy etc. Now my much easier life also seems exhausting, I’m never woken up by an alarm clock, although am a naturally early riser, my days still seem very full. I can honestly say I don’t know how I used to do it all. I will also say that I have so few things to worry about now that the smallest of things can really stress me out. 15 years ago I had so much on my plate that one more thing to worry about didn’t really impact me. I think it’s just about perspectives really.

SerenaCat93 · 21/05/2026 11:17

DangerousAlchemy · 21/05/2026 11:05

Jeez you just sound so angry and bitter! Talk to your DM I suggest rather than being abrupt on mumsnet. If her comments or demands are annoying you this much then tell her. Or maybe change your job so you do have more time in the evenings for hobbies? You're jumping down everyone's throat here 🤷‍♀️

No she's not. People are completely failing to understand what she has written multiple times. It's almost obviously deliberate at this point.